Not everything posted on Ubuntu forums is a current or even existing problem.
Why don't you look how every Windows product's forum is flooded with Windows users posting their negative experiences?
How about asking your bosses at Microsoft to let you look at their current bug list -- that likely contains actual confirmed problems and deficiencies?
They are large corporation that can only feed itself by perpetuating its monopoly position. If they lose Windows dominance, they will fail no matter what else they will do -- at best turning themselves into faceless omnivore consultancy shaving tiny margins from lending out sysadmins and system integrators (competing with IBM and its likes), at worst going down in flames trying to build a Windows-servers-based advertisement network to compete with Google.
There is no more important task for Microsoft than prolonging the lifetime of Windows monopoly, and that means, they will remain being dangerous enemy of everything related to computing until the end.
Windows CE single-handedly wiped out first generation of PDA and mini-laptops, leaving only Palm (then still without celphone functionality) alive. People were buying devices to run "Word", "Excel" and "Internet Explorer" instead of more capable devices based on Symbian or even Linux (Windows CE-based iPAQ was originally developed as Linux-based Itsy), then got disappointed by complete mismatch of those devices' capabilities with their expectations. All those devices ended up as massive failures, iPAQ stuck longer than others but was hardly a success considering the amount of engineering that went in it.
Later Microsoft had some success pushing Windows CE on smartphones by marketing those devices to cellular carriers who didn't care about users' experience as long it was possible to advertise "Windows" and easily gain customers locked into multi-year contracts before seeing the device.
iPhone pretty much wiped this market -- or what left of it after Blackberry eaten a huge chunk. So now Microsoft's new generation of Windows Mobile, marketed in the same way but facing competition and disillusioned users, is hopefully doomed.
File handles in DOS was probably the first instance of Microsoft disease -- take a useful feature, design or concept from a different environment, then implement it MONSTROUSLY, TERRIBLY WRONG, completely defeating the purpose of all decisions that led to that feature, design or concept. It's probably slightly more ironic than their later attempts because they were borrowing from "their own" (well, more SCO than their) product.
Microsoft Research pays people not to work for Microsoft competitors or open source projects that compete with Microsoft. There is no other purpose to that organization, as Microsoft can't benefit from anything people working for Microsoft Research do in the first place.
Microsoft is the only company that can't release its standards BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER DOCUMENTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. At worst days of Unix fragmentation, there was more interoperability between all Unices and Unix-like systems (yes, including HP-UX) than there was between Microsoft and Borland toolchains on Windows. For the above mentioned reason. And that was before Microsoft started to actively fight Unix.
Christianity taken over development of science, art, engineering, education and politics, than ran it terribly wrong for more than a milennium. Then it continued trying to do so, though less successfully.
Development of humanity will massively accelerate when society will ban indoctrination of minors with religion (and eventually it WILL happen -- at least for the part of humanity that will determine the rate of progress of the whole civilization). Until then we should just take into account that politicians use demagoguery to elevate acceptance of stupidity and mental deficiency in society (what freedom of religion is) to the level of supporting blatant fraud and brainwashing as long as it suits those politicians' goals.
How many people died prematurely thanks to living in unhealthy condition under US-backed governments in Africa alone?
You lived in the USSR?
Yes, I did.
I wouldn't call Cuba "across the border" from USSR.
Cuban revolution was not in any way provoked by USSR, it was provoked by massively shitheaded Cuban government and overall popularity of leftist movements in Latin America. After revolution Cuba was friendly to USSR, however there was no actual meddling involved, and USSR didn't benefit from Cuba being Communist, other than in propaganda value. Even Cuban missile crisis was not in any way worse than US placing its missiles across the border from USSR in friendly Turkey -- and it was resolved by both countries backing off (and not by what you were told).
Afghanistan, on the other hand, was across the border from USSR, and was a direct threat to USSR territory -- as opposed to being any kind of threat to US territory now. What US is doing there is somewhere on the scale between "pointless" and "colonialism".
Fishing for arguments by googling for "Linux bug" and copy/pasting bug entries, pretending that they are all valid, current and relevant problems. I see.
I'm a linux user, but I'm yet to come across a linux distribution where I can plug in a Canon Pixma printer and actually print directly onto a DVD/CD without having to f-around with something first. It shouldn't be that hard. At one stage I even *bought* TurboPrint drivers for linux so I could do simple things like edge-to-edge printing. Or duplexing. It shouldn't be that hard.
If it doesn't work with Linux, it won't work on a Mac, either. It has to be some serious crap to accomplish that.
And since you brought up GIMP... my complaint with GIMP isn't CMYK support, it's the lack of full 16-bit per channel support. 8-bit channel support is worthless for anything other than basic photo retouching. I do astrometric image processing and I need to run things like IRIS, Stacker and Photoshop under WINE if I want that.
If you actually had this problem it would take you about 15 minutes to discover that a whole branch split from GIMP to deal with high bit depth images.
Called Cinepaint, and widely used in movie production.
I wonder how he'd react if we judged everyone in his country by the actions of his government?
If you believe that you have "democracy", you must be responsible for the actions of your government because this is the government you supposedly collectively control. If Americans were telling everyone abroad that they live under corporate-led tyranny, they would not be treated with nearly as much hatred as they are now.
The gfx layer and hw acceleration on linux is a mess. Sound isn't any better
Oh, wow.
If anything, Linux currently supports EVERYTHING released for the last four generations of audio I/O (OSS, ESD (over OSS or ALSA), ALSA, Pulseaudio (over/under ALSA) -- without bugs and limitations of the old implementations of those systems. No other OS ever accomplished that.
As for graphics, one has to be on crack to complain about that -- the application interface for 2D and 3D graphics is very consistent and adopts various acceleration features/infrastructures as they are being developed.
The only reason comments like this are being posted here is because Microsoft pays for them, however I can believe that some stupid people have nothing better to do with their lives to provide their volunteering efforts.
Recently all forums, from Slashdot to 4chan/g/ got flooded by nearly identical Windowds-promoting posters, all spouting typical Microsoft talking points ("GIMP does not support CMYK", "Linux has no stable ABI", "You have to support all distributions' packages when you release software for Linux", etc.) and using astroturfing tactic ("I love Linux, but <some inane "issue" that is on the first page of results when googling for "Linux problem">").
And as far as religions go, if you've not noticed a similarity in tone to the discussions on open source, then...lucky you.
Actually no. Only a person who does not understand a difference between engineering practice and religious dogma would think so. And there are a lot of people around who don't, including you both.
The reason I didn't say "go forth an develop" is basically this: develop for what?.deb or.rpm? Redhat or Suse? Debian or Ubuntu? What about Slackeware? Arch? (god for bid...)Gentoo?
Another Microsoft astroturfer found. Repeating the same, long time ago multiple times refuted Microsoft talking points.
You, guys, have better success flooding/g/ with this crap.
What is with the vanilla fixation? It is quite an unreasonable requirement considering every major distro is expected to customize the kernel. They call it vanilla for a reason.
This is completely false. Distributions package kernels compiled from entirely unmodified Linus tree, and they would do ONLY that if not a bunch of patches some maintainers believe, should be in distribution before they will reach Linus tree. A patch in a distribution that is not intended for the Linus tree is something nearly unheard of. A desktop distribution that won't work with an independently compiled Linus tree would be seen by any Linux user or developer as the most idiotic idea ever.
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Not everything posted on Ubuntu forums is a current or even existing problem.
Why don't you look how every Windows product's forum is flooded with Windows users posting their negative experiences?
How about asking your bosses at Microsoft to let you look at their current bug list -- that likely contains actual confirmed problems and deficiencies?
They are large corporation that can only feed itself by perpetuating its monopoly position. If they lose Windows dominance, they will fail no matter what else they will do -- at best turning themselves into faceless omnivore consultancy shaving tiny margins from lending out sysadmins and system integrators (competing with IBM and its likes), at worst going down in flames trying to build a Windows-servers-based advertisement network to compete with Google.
There is no more important task for Microsoft than prolonging the lifetime of Windows monopoly, and that means, they will remain being dangerous enemy of everything related to computing until the end.
Windows CE single-handedly wiped out first generation of PDA and mini-laptops, leaving only Palm (then still without celphone functionality) alive. People were buying devices to run "Word", "Excel" and "Internet Explorer" instead of more capable devices based on Symbian or even Linux (Windows CE-based iPAQ was originally developed as Linux-based Itsy), then got disappointed by complete mismatch of those devices' capabilities with their expectations. All those devices ended up as massive failures, iPAQ stuck longer than others but was hardly a success considering the amount of engineering that went in it.
Later Microsoft had some success pushing Windows CE on smartphones by marketing those devices to cellular carriers who didn't care about users' experience as long it was possible to advertise "Windows" and easily gain customers locked into multi-year contracts before seeing the device.
iPhone pretty much wiped this market -- or what left of it after Blackberry eaten a huge chunk. So now Microsoft's new generation of Windows Mobile, marketed in the same way but facing competition and disillusioned users, is hopefully doomed.
File handles in DOS was probably the first instance of Microsoft disease -- take a useful feature, design or concept from a different environment, then implement it MONSTROUSLY, TERRIBLY WRONG, completely defeating the purpose of all decisions that led to that feature, design or concept. It's probably slightly more ironic than their later attempts because they were borrowing from "their own" (well, more SCO than their) product.
Microsoft Research pays people not to work for Microsoft competitors or open source projects that compete with Microsoft. There is no other purpose to that organization, as Microsoft can't benefit from anything people working for Microsoft Research do in the first place.
There would also be almost NO interoperability.
Oh wow!
Microsoft is the only company that can't release its standards BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER DOCUMENTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
At worst days of Unix fragmentation, there was more interoperability between all Unices and Unix-like systems (yes, including HP-UX) than there was between Microsoft and Borland toolchains on Windows. For the above mentioned reason. And that was before Microsoft started to actively fight Unix.
We just didn't have a little mascot back in the day.
Umm...., we did! It has horns and looks kind of like Richard Stallman...
Christianity taken over development of science, art, engineering, education and politics, than ran it terribly wrong for more than a milennium. Then it continued trying to do so, though less successfully.
Development of humanity will massively accelerate when society will ban indoctrination of minors with religion (and eventually it WILL happen -- at least for the part of humanity that will determine the rate of progress of the whole civilization). Until then we should just take into account that politicians use demagoguery to elevate acceptance of stupidity and mental deficiency in society (what freedom of religion is) to the level of supporting blatant fraud and brainwashing as long as it suits those politicians' goals.
Second World War (1937-45): 55 000 00
More like 70 millions, actually.
How many people died prematurely thanks to living in unhealthy condition under US-backed governments in Africa alone?
You lived in the USSR?
Yes, I did.
I wouldn't call Cuba "across the border" from USSR.
Cuban revolution was not in any way provoked by USSR, it was provoked by massively shitheaded Cuban government and overall popularity of leftist movements in Latin America. After revolution Cuba was friendly to USSR, however there was no actual meddling involved, and USSR didn't benefit from Cuba being Communist, other than in propaganda value. Even Cuban missile crisis was not in any way worse than US placing its missiles across the border from USSR in friendly Turkey -- and it was resolved by both countries backing off (and not by what you were told).
Afghanistan, on the other hand, was across the border from USSR, and was a direct threat to USSR territory -- as opposed to being any kind of threat to US territory now. What US is doing there is somewhere on the scale between "pointless" and "colonialism".
Adobe just harvests the windfall from Microsoft marketing. By themselves they can't even win against Steve Jobs in a yelling match.
Devil does not exist.
Microsoft marketing department does.
Fishing for arguments by googling for "Linux bug" and copy/pasting bug entries, pretending that they are all valid, current and relevant problems. I see.
I don't believe, this deserves a refutation.
I'm a linux user, but I'm yet to come across a linux distribution where I can plug in a Canon Pixma printer and actually print directly onto a DVD/CD without having to f-around with something first. It shouldn't be that hard. At one stage I even *bought* TurboPrint drivers for linux so I could do simple things like edge-to-edge printing. Or duplexing. It shouldn't be that hard.
If it doesn't work with Linux, it won't work on a Mac, either. It has to be some serious crap to accomplish that.
And since you brought up GIMP... my complaint with GIMP isn't CMYK support, it's the lack of full 16-bit per channel support. 8-bit channel support is worthless for anything other than basic photo retouching. I do astrometric image processing and I need to run things like IRIS, Stacker and Photoshop under WINE if I want that.
If you actually had this problem it would take you about 15 minutes to discover that a whole branch split from GIMP to deal with high bit depth images.
Called Cinepaint, and widely used in movie production.
I live in US, and I hate you (as a society) more than anyone who lives in Russia.
Because a person living in Russia doesn't have to deal with your poisonous society, ideology and politics daily, and I do.
Mostly along the line of thinking "If they loot and pillage everyone, life must be great in their country".
I wonder how he'd react if we judged everyone in his country by the actions of his government?
If you believe that you have "democracy", you must be responsible for the actions of your government because this is the government you supposedly collectively control. If Americans were telling everyone abroad that they live under corporate-led tyranny, they would not be treated with nearly as much hatred as they are now.
This is Christians. They don't understand that something may be human and alive, yet does not constitute human life.
Like, for example, blood in a bag.
I call bullshit on that.
The gfx layer and hw acceleration on linux is a mess. Sound isn't any better
Oh, wow.
If anything, Linux currently supports EVERYTHING released for the last four generations of audio I/O (OSS, ESD (over OSS or ALSA), ALSA, Pulseaudio (over/under ALSA) -- without bugs and limitations of the old implementations of those systems. No other OS ever accomplished that.
As for graphics, one has to be on crack to complain about that -- the application interface for 2D and 3D graphics is very consistent and adopts various acceleration features/infrastructures as they are being developed.
The only reason comments like this are being posted here is because Microsoft pays for them, however I can believe that some stupid people have nothing better to do with their lives to provide their volunteering efforts.
"Who do you serve
Microsoft, most likely.
Recently all forums, from Slashdot to 4chan /g/ got flooded by nearly identical Windowds-promoting posters, all spouting typical Microsoft talking points ("GIMP does not support CMYK", "Linux has no stable ABI", "You have to support all distributions' packages when you release software for Linux", etc.) and using astroturfing tactic ("I love Linux, but <some inane "issue" that is on the first page of results when googling for "Linux problem">").
And as far as religions go, if you've not noticed a similarity in tone to the discussions on open source, then...lucky you.
Actually no. Only a person who does not understand a difference between engineering practice and religious dogma would think so. And there are a lot of people around who don't, including you both.
Ubuntu is marketed as Linux. Debian-based Linux, even.
The reason I didn't say "go forth an develop" is basically this: develop for what? .deb or .rpm? Redhat or Suse? Debian or Ubuntu? What about Slackeware? Arch? (god for bid...)Gentoo?
Another Microsoft astroturfer found. Repeating the same, long time ago multiple times refuted Microsoft talking points.
You, guys, have better success flooding /g/ with this crap.
What is with the vanilla fixation? It is quite an unreasonable requirement considering every major distro is expected to customize the kernel. They call it vanilla for a reason.
This is completely false. Distributions package kernels compiled from entirely unmodified Linus tree, and they would do ONLY that if not a bunch of patches some maintainers believe, should be in distribution before they will reach Linus tree. A patch in a distribution that is not intended for the Linus tree is something nearly unheard of. A desktop distribution that won't work with an independently compiled Linus tree would be seen by any Linux user or developer as the most idiotic idea ever.
See http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1761840&cid=33330428