I used both Win2k and linux at one jobe - guess which one crashed ore often, and refused to install on new hardware - Win2k. Getting a new network card to work under linux was a matter of copying a few lines of code, editing 1 identifier, and recompiling. Getting Win2k to run for more than a few minutes involved having to look for the latest service pack, and installing it, then moving the hard drive back to the original machine.
XP? A friend showed me his XP box and bragged about how much more stable it would be than Win9x - I opened up explorer and within 10 seconds the machine blue-screened.
Then there's the P4 with WinXP (including SP2) that showed a dialog box with "DOS Error: Unable to copy file!" from inside Explorer.
But let's use your standard of fairness - Microsoft still fails. Vista is bloated garbage, it costs more, it runs slower on the same hardware, it is far from green (it is an energy hog), it doesn't come with all the tools I want, and it comes from a company that still engages in lies, bribes, and fud (witness the MS-OOXML bullsh*t - nothing has changed).
With current storage prices , why would you need to hunt down programs to install ? External drives and keeping your programs and keys together are nice.
Nice try, but the issue is setting up a virgin box to actually do some work. Its a pain in the ass to have to babysit a computer while you install a dozen or more different apps under Windows. Much easier to just wipe the box, stick in a linux install cd, click a few options, and do some other work while it sets up everything including the proverbial kitchen sink. Or do you propose giving all your programs and keys to the guy/gal in the next cube when they need to do some work?
I use windows , linux , and Solaris. I hate having to download so many security fixes every week for linux, some of us don't have big pipes constantly. At least with windows after I have locked down and updated I don't have to keep updating at 40 or 50 megs a week.
50 megs a week is a "big pipe?" Don't you think you're kind of stretching it... that's under a minute, and I don't consider my home connection a "big pipe" at 10 mb/s (my ISP offers 50 mb/s for $79.99/month). Also, you fail to note that those updates aren't just for the core os - they're also for all the installed apps. Try doing that with Windows. There is no central repository at Microsoft.com that tracks all the updates for 3rd-party apps, unlike many linux distros, where it's just "one-stop shopping" to update everything.
Also, many of the updates under linux are to add new features, not "bug fixes" or "security updates."
BTW the software thing is a moot point for web and ftp. IIS covers that for windows and comes on the disc.
Not for XP Home, which a lot of people are using. Also, RAID support is seriously crippled.
Linux was developed by technical people for technical people. Until we can develop for non technical people we won't gain any ground. And his complaints are not so 90's , besides for ubuntu forums I still see forums saying to search google and then if they can't find an answer come back and RTFM.
Windows certainly wasn't "developed for non-technical people." How many people just give up when their Windows box gets too bit-rotted and reinstall from scratch?
The Windows tech support paradigm:
Reboot
If that doesn't work, try reinstalling the drivers/application
If that doesn't work, try editing the registry
If that doesn't work, reinstall everything
Nobody gives this advice under any other operating system. Why? Because it's possible to fix most problems without having to reboot, or reinstall anything - and reinstalling Windows and all your apps from scratch is most assuredly NOT user-friendly, esp. compared to linux. The linux desktop is ready for the masses - certainly more so than VistaME.
They have a hard time getting used to not being able to play their games on Linux, though, for fun.
... so buy a Wii, or play the game under wine, or in a virtual machine (linux supports 3 different VMs). Even IE 7 works under wine onlinux...
Or being able to run some program that their buddy sent them...
... see first response...
or the instant something goes wrong, not being able to figure it out because they don't know anything about computers,
... and this is different from, say, Vista, how?
or finding anyone who won't tell them to RTFM when they ask for help, or at least type in English (or their native language).
... again, how is this any different?
Unlike Windows, where you have to add all sorts of stuff to your operating system to have a computer that you can actually work with, most linux users use a distro, which has the programs already set up, configured, and runs out of the bos. Need a web server? Already installed and configured. FTP server? ditto. Office suite? Pick from several on the menu. Web browser? Again, pick from 7 on the menu. Need perl, python, or another scripting language? Already installed. Ditto for chat programs that support multiple protocols. Ditto for a java runtime. Ditto for flash. Nowadays, it's a lot quicker and easier to just wipe a box down and install a distro than it is to hunt down and install a base set of programs on an already running Windows box.
The problem with your stance is your emotionally charged world view concerning something that is intrinsically neutral; thus you to polarize everything that you reasonably can with a good or evil bias where none is necessary leading to your irrational position as stated above.
Shoddy products, repeated lies and a history of illegal and outright crooked dealings are NOT "intrinsically neutral" in this, or any other parallel universe.
Trying to claim that Microsoft products are "intriniscally neutral" is both disingenuous and, on this site, foolish astroturfing. I made a value comparison based on the metrics that are important to me:
Efficacy
Cost
Freedom
Hassles
For all 4 of these metrics, Microsoft products lose. This is not "emotionally charged" - this is hard-nosed numbers. Money in my pocket. Time saved. Freedom. Again, not something that is "intrinisically neutral."
Why shouldn't I despise a company that in the past lied to me, ripped me off, and made me waste more time than I want to think about?
Also, they gather 'interaction data' with the first commercial, and use it for the following ones
So what are they going to do when most people's "interaction" is to click on "close", or to just go somewhere else, or tab over to another site while the ad plays (unwatched)?
And now, we can finally say it - "In the GoogleSphere, ADS WATCH YOU!"
I hate Microsoft. I openly admit it. I have earned the right to hate them, having put up with their crap products, misleading advertising, outright lies, etc. In other words, I'm a formerMS-DOS and Win3x / Win9x user.
I use only linux and bsd professionally, 5 days aw week. Nothing from Microsoft. At home, its the same story.
My sister has an iMac. After a decade of futzing around with Microsoft's failures, she hates Microsoft as well.
As to why I use linux, it's not "because it's fun":
I have work to do, and I can do it faster, and more dependably, under linux than under Windows;
It's cheaper, both in initial price, hardware requirements, and ongoing costs, than Windows;
I don't like vendor lock-in;
I value my sanity more than any "need" to add to Bill Gate's wallet;
Since switching, I've saved tens of thousands of dollars on software, I also don't have to be as aggressive in updating hardware, for additional savings.
So yes, I hate Microsoft, and I despise Windows, and my use of linux has nothing to do with any "fun" factor. Continuing to use Windows just doesn't make sense, and the only thing keeping many users on it is inertia. Force them to switch to something else, show them the pretty icons, and they get used to it in a day. Then it grows on them. Sort of like dual monitors - so many people resist the idea, but force it on them, then try to take the second screen back a week later... they'll do an Achmed the Dead Terrorist on you - "Silence - I KILL YOU!".
Its because the editors looked at the archive, and got defaced. They're only now discovering that it's a great way to distribute malware - they even ARCHIVE it for you!
Every cable company in America that I know of has two tiers of internet service: consumer and business. And dusinesses (sic) aren't allowed to buy the consumer options
So you look for a reseller (either cable or dsl) that doesn't make the distinction... they're around.
THE SYSTEM: "IT SERVES NO PURPOSE EXCEPT TO CONSUME ITSELF."
Source: Tim Weiner, INQUIRER WASHINGTON BUREAU
The United States is on the verge of building a Star Wars missile defense system. But the project's in-house critics say it has become a "feeding frenzy" of contractors building an expensive system of questionable worth. After nine years of research and $30 billion, with little to show for the time and money, Congress has ordered the Strategic Defense Initiative Organization (SDIO) to build something: an elaborate system of missiles, radars, command
Published on March 23, 1992, Page A01, Philadelphia Inquirer, The (PA)
self-licking ice cream cone n. a process, department, institution, or other thing that offers few benefits and exists primarily to justify or perpetuate its own existence. Also in the form self-licking lollipop.
The guy's name is "Johnny Zit-train." Sounds like a character out of a Clearasil commercial.
You are right, having the same rules is not a copyright infringement in itself. But in this case it's evidence that they copied the code of the original game verbatim and that is copyright infringement.
And under the Berne Convention, they only have to give foreign works the same level of protection they give works by their own nationals. In other words, the Chinese government or its' designates are free to copy code, images, and the song of foreigners to the same extent they would with their own people. In other words, they can copy whatever they want and still be in compliance.
Works originating in one of the contracting States (that is, works the author of which is a national of such a State or works which were first published in such a State) must be given the same protection in each of the other contracting States as the latter grants to the works of its own nationals
Since they don't exactly give their own nationals very much in the way of individual copyright protection, the use of a foreigner's material is no more protected than their own people's - in other words, no protection: This is legal under the Berne Convention.
No, but you can copy artwork, sound and source code, all of which was blatantly stolen.
Since they are giving his material the same protection they would give works by their own people ("if the gov't want to use it, they can by fiat or emminent domain"), they can copy all they want for any official Chinese agency. Not only is it not "theft" (remember - even member nations don't regard copyright infringement as theft), its legal.
Also, instead of just reading the article, try both of the games. The chinese version plays smoother.
Too many posters are going down the "copyright fair use" track, which is totally irrelevant to the discussion. Yes, the music and images, and *some* of the code are protected - but not for public use in China by the government or its' designates.
Also, under chinese law, he has no claim anyway, even if it was a patent or trademark infringement instead of copyright. He has to be in a minority partnership with a chinese agent/business.whatever or he simply can't do business under chinese law. Only businesses which are either majority or completely owned by chinese nationals are legal in China. - so he has no standing for damages.
To govern the internet, you need a structure similar to that used to approve changes to say, the C programming language. That seems like a pretty good structure for a government of an entity like the internet.
Until it gets gamed by someone to advance their financial interests (see Microsoft and OOXML "standard" approval).
you want to develop more technology, just let porn do the job.
porn exploits new technologies. it invests in nothing.
The porn industry invests heavily. What I think you mean is it doesn't not invest in developing new technologies.
Companies invest in developing new technologies, in the hope that other businesses (including porn) will purchase products incorporating said technologies.
So porn does help fund new technologies, by expanding the market for new technologies, thus attracting investors in businesses whose goal is developing new technologies.
Without the hope of future customers, who would invest in development?.
The idea for a game is not protected by copyright. The same is true of the name or title given to the game and of the method or methods for playing it.
Copyright protects only the particular manner of an authors expression in literary, artistic, or musical form. Copyright protection does not extend to any idea, system, method, device, or trademark material involved in the development, merchandising, or playing of a game. Once a game has been made public, nothing in the copyright law prevents others from developing another game based on similar principles.
As long as you change the elements that are copyrightable (images, music, etc.), everything else is fair game. The gameplay can be the exact same.
The idea for a game is not protected by copyright. The same is true of the name or title given to the game and of the method or methods for playing it.
Copyright protects only the particular manner of an authors expression in literary, artistic, or musical form. Copyright protection does not extend to any idea, system, method, device, or trademark material involved in the development, merchandising, or playing of a game. Once a game has been made public, nothing in the copyright law prevents others from developing another game based on similar principles.
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I used both Win2k and linux at one jobe - guess which one crashed ore often, and refused to install on new hardware - Win2k. Getting a new network card to work under linux was a matter of copying a few lines of code, editing 1 identifier, and recompiling. Getting Win2k to run for more than a few minutes involved having to look for the latest service pack, and installing it, then moving the hard drive back to the original machine.
XP? A friend showed me his XP box and bragged about how much more stable it would be than Win9x - I opened up explorer and within 10 seconds the machine blue-screened.
Then there's the P4 with WinXP (including SP2) that showed a dialog box with "DOS Error: Unable to copy file!" from inside Explorer.
But let's use your standard of fairness - Microsoft still fails. Vista is bloated garbage, it costs more, it runs slower on the same hardware, it is far from green (it is an energy hog), it doesn't come with all the tools I want, and it comes from a company that still engages in lies, bribes, and fud (witness the MS-OOXML bullsh*t - nothing has changed).
Why would I want to PAY to run crippleware?
Last time I asked them, they said the answer was 41.66, not 42.
When I said "Not 42", they said "no, that's pi".
Which is why it takes so much longer over there to realize that you're just going around in circles.
Oh, and recusrion doesn't, variables won't, and constants aren't. Which is why they don't have computers. they seem much happier.
Get the Aibo!
WARNING: Do not try with airplanes, helicopters, or police cars.
50 megs a week is a "big pipe?" Don't you think you're kind of stretching it ... that's under a minute, and I don't consider my home connection a "big pipe" at 10 mb/s (my ISP offers 50 mb/s for $79.99/month). Also, you fail to note that those updates aren't just for the core os - they're also for all the installed apps. Try doing that with Windows. There is no central repository at Microsoft.com that tracks all the updates for 3rd-party apps, unlike many linux distros, where it's just "one-stop shopping" to update everything.
Also, many of the updates under linux are to add new features, not "bug fixes" or "security updates."
Not for XP Home, which a lot of people are using. Also, RAID support is seriously crippled.
Windows certainly wasn't "developed for non-technical people." How many people just give up when their Windows box gets too bit-rotted and reinstall from scratch?
The Windows tech support paradigm:
- Reboot
- If that doesn't work, try reinstalling the drivers/application
- If that doesn't work, try editing the registry
- If that doesn't work, reinstall everything
Nobody gives this advice under any other operating system. Why? Because it's possible to fix most problems without having to reboot, or reinstall anything - and reinstalling Windows and all your apps from scratch is most assuredly NOT user-friendly, esp. compared to linux. The linux desktop is ready for the masses - certainly more so than VistaME.Unlike Windows, where you have to add all sorts of stuff to your operating system to have a computer that you can actually work with, most linux users use a distro, which has the programs already set up, configured, and runs out of the bos. Need a web server? Already installed and configured. FTP server? ditto. Office suite? Pick from several on the menu. Web browser? Again, pick from 7 on the menu. Need perl, python, or another scripting language? Already installed. Ditto for chat programs that support multiple protocols. Ditto for a java runtime. Ditto for flash. Nowadays, it's a lot quicker and easier to just wipe a box down and install a distro than it is to hunt down and install a base set of programs on an already running Windows box.
In other words, your complaints are so '90s.
Shoddy products, repeated lies and a history of illegal and outright crooked dealings are NOT "intrinsically neutral" in this, or any other parallel universe.
Trying to claim that Microsoft products are "intriniscally neutral" is both disingenuous and, on this site, foolish astroturfing. I made a value comparison based on the metrics that are important to me:
For all 4 of these metrics, Microsoft products lose. This is not "emotionally charged" - this is hard-nosed numbers. Money in my pocket. Time saved. Freedom. Again, not something that is "intrinisically neutral."
Why shouldn't I despise a company that in the past lied to me, ripped me off, and made me waste more time than I want to think about?
So what are they going to do when most people's "interaction" is to click on "close", or to just go somewhere else, or tab over to another site while the ad plays (unwatched)?
And now, we can finally say it - "In the GoogleSphere, ADS WATCH YOU!"
I hate Microsoft. I openly admit it. I have earned the right to hate them, having put up with their crap products, misleading advertising, outright lies, etc. In other words, I'm a formerMS-DOS and Win3x / Win9x user.
I use only linux and bsd professionally, 5 days aw week. Nothing from Microsoft. At home, its the same story.
My sister has an iMac. After a decade of futzing around with Microsoft's failures, she hates Microsoft as well.
As to why I use linux, it's not "because it's fun":
Since switching, I've saved tens of thousands of dollars on software, I also don't have to be as aggressive in updating hardware, for additional savings.
So yes, I hate Microsoft, and I despise Windows, and my use of linux has nothing to do with any "fun" factor. Continuing to use Windows just doesn't make sense, and the only thing keeping many users on it is inertia. Force them to switch to something else, show them the pretty icons, and they get used to it in a day. Then it grows on them. Sort of like dual monitors - so many people resist the idea, but force it on them, then try to take the second screen back a week later ... they'll do an Achmed the Dead Terrorist on you - "Silence - I KILL YOU!".
You'd actually be doing the world a favor by defacing websight.com - it's another one of those "linkfest pages".
Its because the editors looked at the archive, and got defaced. They're only now discovering that it's a great way to distribute malware - they even ARCHIVE it for you!
... will it be bugged?
Actually, if he programs in assembler, he's not a congressman - he's an assemblyman.
Pamela Jones, creator and editor groklaw.net.
The MoGTroll - aka Maureen O'Gara - a SCO shill masquerading as a writer, asked the same question. So did SOC's Minister of MisInformation - Darl McBride, again in an attempt to discredit PJ by intimating she was (among other allegations) a bunch of people from IBM.
Citations:
[1] Rachel Marsden
So you look for a reseller (either cable or dsl) that doesn't make the distinction ... they're around.
You haven't properly addressed my main arguments - and you're the one who started with the insults, so just keep up wth the verbal masturbation.
Like I said, take your meds, get a real job in the real world ...
To save others from looking around ...
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The guy's name is "Johnny Zit-train." Sounds like a character out of a Clearasil commercial.
And under the Berne Convention, they only have to give foreign works the same level of protection they give works by their own nationals. In other words, the Chinese government or its' designates are free to copy code, images, and the song of foreigners to the same extent they would with their own people. In other words, they can copy whatever they want and still be in compliance.
Kind of like "We have toll booths so we can collect money to keep the toll booths running ..." ?
Here's the relevant clause of the Berne Covention:
Since they don't exactly give their own nationals very much in the way of individual copyright protection, the use of a foreigner's material is no more protected than their own people's - in other words, no protection: This is legal under the Berne Convention.Since they are giving his material the same protection they would give works by their own people ("if the gov't want to use it, they can by fiat or emminent domain"), they can copy all they want for any official Chinese agency. Not only is it not "theft" (remember - even member nations don't regard copyright infringement as theft), its legal.
Also, instead of just reading the article, try both of the games. The chinese version plays smoother.
Too many posters are going down the "copyright fair use" track, which is totally irrelevant to the discussion. Yes, the music and images, and *some* of the code are protected - but not for public use in China by the government or its' designates.
Also, under chinese law, he has no claim anyway, even if it was a patent or trademark infringement instead of copyright. He has to be in a minority partnership with a chinese agent/business.whatever or he simply can't do business under chinese law. Only businesses which are either majority or completely owned by chinese nationals are legal in China. - so he has no standing for damages.
"No cake for you, round-eyes!"
Until it gets gamed by someone to advance their financial interests (see Microsoft and OOXML "standard" approval).
Same as the courts were gamed by SCO.
Same as the electoral system was gamed by Bush
The porn industry invests heavily. What I think you mean is it doesn't not invest in developing new technologies.
Companies invest in developing new technologies, in the hope that other businesses (including porn) will purchase products incorporating said technologies.
So porn does help fund new technologies, by expanding the market for new technologies, thus attracting investors in businesses whose goal is developing new technologies.
Without the hope of future customers, who would invest in development?.
As long as you change the elements that are copyrightable (images, music, etc.), everything else is fair game. The gameplay can be the exact same.
Remember, you can't copyright the rules of a game - not even in the US of A.
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl108.html