Another 650,000 will be employed in the IT departments of businesses that rely on Vista
No, no... you've got it wrong. Its a feature, not a bug. Since every day will have to be "patch Tuesday", IT departments will be able to better integrate patching into their routine... by hiring staff dedicated to it.
Actually, the nubmers from the article are total bullshit. Those 650,000 staff would be employed whether the business used Vista or not.
Arguments from authority underwhelm me. "The author is..." is an example of one of those "arguments from authority." Google "carl sagan baloney detector" for more info. Here, I'll save you the trouble: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html.
Don't accept this thesis because its from Sagan, but because it makes sense...
Common fallacies of logic and rhetoric
* Ad hominem - attacking the arguer and not the argument.
* Argument from "authority"....
... and this is valid c code - it compiles and runs just fine. The're only the one block - you can put all the action on individual lines, and make it as BASICy as you want.
int main() {
L10: printf("hello, world\n");/*... stick other statements here */
L100: goto 10;
L110: return 0;
}
Blocks (except for main() are completely optional in c. Of course, you have to be an ID-10-T not to take advantage of them...
And you can do the same in assembler...
"Dearth of line programming languages" my arse. Last I looked, almost every programming language is composed of lines of source code that you can write in a plain ascii editor. What the author is complaining about (without understanding it) is CODING IDEs replacing typing in your complete file as plain source code.
c, c++, java, perl, python, php, pascal, javascript, whatever - you can write all your source the old way - line-by-line, and most of us do. Heck, even Delphi, one of the better IDEs, doesn't require the IDE environment if you really want to go the type-in-all-the-source route. Last I looked, both c/c++ and java were available for free for all the major platforms.
In other words, the original article itself was a "nothing to see here" filler by someone who needed to write *something* before deadline. Sheesh!
Yeah, its a program that pretends to do something useful but sucks the life out of your computer. Both Beagle and Windows qualify on that definition. Beagle is crap. Google for "beagle resource hog" and read how others think the same. Currently, the second hit is http://en.opensuse.org/Disabling_Beagle.
It brought an amd64 to a screeching halt - not just during install or the first day or two. Its not worth it.
Its a crime in the state where this guy posted to intentionally do anything that could reasonably be expected to cause someone embarrassment or loss. I think this qualifies, and I hope the SOB goes to jail. I think this says it all.
I'm not worried. The harder Microsoft tries to "proprietairize" the computing world, the harder the pushback in the long run.
The factors weighing against Microsoft long-term:
Operating systems are now a cheap/free commodity at a time when Microsoft needs to charge more, to sustain their income curve
Virus writers, trojans, worms have them firmly in their sights, and this won't change because Microsoft can't change too much, or everything will either just work with the free competitors as well, or it breaks
Vista is the end of the line - there are no future versions possible, as the code base has gone well past the point of maintainability. Look at the features they had to rip out just to hopefully ship 4 years late.
Here's what I said:
"There will be no Windows after Vista. Even Microsoft has alluded to as much."
Here's what you say:
"
Microsoft said no such thing. They stated that they think that Windows, in it's current OS-on-a-DVD-that-you-install-on-a-PC form probably wouldn't exist."
Some vague "cloud of services on the Internet" or whatever they want to come up with as a replacement is not Windows. So fuck off. Vista is the end of the line for Windows as we know and hate it, and I'm SO happy.
A lot easier to get a complete machine, with applications, configured, etc., than Windows ever was or will be (unless Microsoft goes to a closed architecture a la Apple).
The car loan is what did it - not the secured credit card. Get a car loan (even at a rip-off rate), pay it for 1 year, and you can get a mortgage at prime.
Its how one of my friends did it after going bankrupt. Car, THEN credit cards, then house.
The "secured" cc wasn't needed, just as it wasn't needed in the case you cite.
Google is your friend. I posted the links sometime in the last year or two, during one of the other interminable arguments about how the US is the only western nation that doesn't even make an effort to have decent access to health care for everyone.
"You're a moron if you think credit checks are going to change any of that discrimination. All they are is another way to do it."
So I'm a moron for wanting to deprive people of a way to break the law? I don't think so...
"This issue is pathetic. Don't like a company's culture? Well, it's probably not the place for you then anyway."
Never heard of trying to change something from within, have we? Besides, why should anyone have to turn down a job because they're afraid of illegal harrassment?
A detailed credit report will list any settlements, etc. as well as any notations made in the file by the creditors. Also, when people make a joint application for credit, they list spouses. Additionally, they list the presence of a spouse (working or not) when calculating the debt load you can handle. Check out your next mortgage application.
"I work as an accountant. At work we have software to prepare accounts, calculate and file tax returns and so on, as well as the usual things like word processing, spreadsheets, email and a web browser."
Linux does this all, just as well, and sometimes better, than anything under windows, and it does it at lower cost.
"
You can't get accounts software that would do what we need on linux, and you can't get tax software at all for linux, so we have to use windows."
Ever thought of throwing a few bucks to someone to make what you need, with some of the savings from not being tied to Microsoft?
I don't know what study you're talking about, but the one I'm talking about was conducted by a team composed of people from both Harvards' Medical and Legal schools, and headed up by a Dr. David Himmelstein.
Today's health insurance policies -- with high deductibles, co-pays, and many exclusions -- offer little protection during a serious illness. Uncovered medical bills averaged $13,460 for those with private insurance at the start of their illness. People with cancer had average medical debts of $35,878.
"The paradox is that the costliest health system in the world performs so poorly. We waste one-third of every health care dollar on insurance bureaucracy and profits while two million people go bankrupt annually and we leave 45 million uninsured" said Dr. Quentin Young, national coordinator of Physicians for a National Health Program.
"With national health insurance ('Medicare for All'), we could provide comprehensive, lifelong coverage to all Americans for the same amount we are spending now and end the cruelty of ruining families financially when they get sick."
Its actually cheaper to cover everyone, but that would end the "class system", and the waste that HMOs promote.
John Q Public will take whatever's presented to him. But the article is a troll. They even claim that SCO is a Swiss-based company. If they can't even get the right continent, I wonder just what sort of drug experiments they're conducting at Harvard nowadays.
FTFUA (From the F*cked-Up Article):
"Consider SCO, a small Swiss-based "vulture" firm that had bought up the intellectual property rights to a particular version of Unix and threatened Linux users"
They can't even read a press release properly, how do you expect them to design and analyse anything more complex than the instructions for using toilet paper?
Even if you have insurance to cover all the medical bills, what about an illness that keeps you from working while you recover? So then you lose your coverage anyways.
I can tell you from experience that its a hard path, spending more than a month flat on my back in hospital, then almost a year recovering, and THEN trying to find a new job because, lets face it, its unreasonable to expect a job to be "held" for you indefinitely.
If I had lived in the US, I would have been bankrupt no matter how you slice that one up.
And then there's the problem of people who are uninsurable because their pre-existing problems mean that the premiums mean you have to choose between eating and being insured.
I have a friend who's run into exactly that problem. There's a treatment that his wife didn't respond to, but that was covered. And one that she is responding to, but its pushing them WAY over the edge financially.
"Consider SCO, a small Swiss-based "vulture" firm that had bought up the intellectual property rights to a particular version of Unix and threatened Linux users with lawsuits over infringement of those rights unless they agree to pay substantial licensing fees."
When did they move Linden, Utah to Switzerland? I think both the US State Department and the Swiss government would be upset.
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No, no ... you've got it wrong. Its a feature, not a bug. Since every day will have to be "patch Tuesday", IT departments will be able to better integrate patching into their routine ... by hiring staff dedicated to it.
Actually, the nubmers from the article are total bullshit. Those 650,000 staff would be employed whether the business used Vista or not.
Arguments from authority underwhelm me. "The author is ..." is an example of one of those "arguments from authority." Google "carl sagan baloney detector" for more info. Here, I'll save you the trouble: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html .
Don't accept this thesis because its from Sagan, but because it makes sense ...
I'm just surprised everyone isn't making tasteless "Xena princess warrior" jokes.
... and this is valid c code - it compiles and runs just fine. The're only the one block - you can put all the action on individual lines, and make it as BASICy as you want. int main() { L10: printf("hello, world\n"); /*... stick other statements here */
L100: goto 10;
L110: return 0;
}
Blocks (except for main() are completely optional in c. Of course, you have to be an ID-10-T not to take advantage of them ...
And you can do the same in assembler ...
You're making a case for Pascal.
(oddly enough, I *like* the c++ class model. I just hate the template libraries)
Sounds more like a "film noir" or an old german submarine. Eris? It'll immediately be confused with Eros. UB313! UB313! UB313!
Not just kids - article writers too.
"Dearth of line programming languages" my arse. Last I looked, almost every programming language is composed of lines of source code that you can write in a plain ascii editor. What the author is complaining about (without understanding it) is CODING IDEs replacing typing in your complete file as plain source code.
c, c++, java, perl, python, php, pascal, javascript, whatever - you can write all your source the old way - line-by-line, and most of us do. Heck, even Delphi, one of the better IDEs, doesn't require the IDE environment if you really want to go the type-in-all-the-source route. Last I looked, both c/c++ and java were available for free for all the major platforms.
In other words, the original article itself was a "nothing to see here" filler by someone who needed to write *something* before deadline. Sheesh!
"Like picking one's nose: not evil but socially frowned upon."
I don't know about it not being evil - I don't want to be around when someone decides to "flick their boogers". That's just nasty!
It brought an amd64 to a screeching halt - not just during install or the first day or two. Its not worth it.
I'm not worried. The harder Microsoft tries to "proprietairize" the computing world, the harder the pushback in the long run.
The factors weighing against Microsoft long-term:
The only ones worried are in Redmond.
Fucking lying scum-bag microshills!
Here's what I said: "There will be no Windows after Vista. Even Microsoft has alluded to as much."
Here's what you say:
" Microsoft said no such thing. They stated that they think that Windows, in it's current OS-on-a-DVD-that-you-install-on-a-PC form probably wouldn't exist."
Some vague "cloud of services on the Internet" or whatever they want to come up with as a replacement is not Windows. So fuck off. Vista is the end of the line for Windows as we know and hate it, and I'm SO happy.
Try OpenSUSE 10.0, or 10.1.
A lot easier to get a complete machine, with applications, configured, etc., than Windows ever was or will be (unless Microsoft goes to a closed architecture a la Apple).
The car loan is what did it - not the secured credit card. Get a car loan (even at a rip-off rate), pay it for 1 year, and you can get a mortgage at prime.
Its how one of my friends did it after going bankrupt. Car, THEN credit cards, then house.
The "secured" cc wasn't needed, just as it wasn't needed in the case you cite.
Google is your friend. I posted the links sometime in the last year or two, during one of the other interminable arguments about how the US is the only western nation that doesn't even make an effort to have decent access to health care for everyone.
I haven't had a system restart due to a driver failure in years. But then again, I don't do Windows.
The same hardware absolutely refuses to install 2k3 in more than 4-color mode (2 bit "color" is so retarded-looking), and screws up the video with XP.
"You're a moron if you think credit checks are going to change any of that discrimination. All they are is another way to do it."
So I'm a moron for wanting to deprive people of a way to break the law? I don't think so ...
"This issue is pathetic. Don't like a company's culture? Well, it's probably not the place for you then anyway."
Never heard of trying to change something from within, have we? Besides, why should anyone have to turn down a job because they're afraid of illegal harrassment?
A detailed credit report will list any settlements, etc. as well as any notations made in the file by the creditors. Also, when people make a joint application for credit, they list spouses. Additionally, they list the presence of a spouse (working or not) when calculating the debt load you can handle. Check out your next mortgage application.
"I work as an accountant. At work we have software to prepare accounts, calculate and file tax returns and so on, as well as the usual things like word processing, spreadsheets, email and a web browser."
Linux does this all, just as well, and sometimes better, than anything under windows, and it does it at lower cost.
" You can't get accounts software that would do what we need on linux, and you can't get tax software at all for linux, so we have to use windows."
Ever thought of throwing a few bucks to someone to make what you need, with some of the savings from not being tied to Microsoft?
I don't know what study you're talking about, but the one I'm talking about was conducted by a team composed of people from both Harvards' Medical and Legal schools, and headed up by a Dr. David Himmelstein.
Its actually cheaper to cover everyone, but that would end the "class system", and the waste that HMOs promote.
John Q Public will take whatever's presented to him. But the article is a troll. They even claim that SCO is a Swiss-based company. If they can't even get the right continent, I wonder just what sort of drug experiments they're conducting at Harvard nowadays.
FTFUA (From the F*cked-Up Article): "Consider SCO, a small Swiss-based "vulture" firm that had bought up the intellectual property rights to a particular version of Unix and threatened Linux users"
They can't even read a press release properly, how do you expect them to design and analyse anything more complex than the instructions for using toilet paper?
Even if you have insurance to cover all the medical bills, what about an illness that keeps you from working while you recover? So then you lose your coverage anyways.
I can tell you from experience that its a hard path, spending more than a month flat on my back in hospital, then almost a year recovering, and THEN trying to find a new job because, lets face it, its unreasonable to expect a job to be "held" for you indefinitely.
If I had lived in the US, I would have been bankrupt no matter how you slice that one up.
And then there's the problem of people who are uninsurable because their pre-existing problems mean that the premiums mean you have to choose between eating and being insured.
I have a friend who's run into exactly that problem. There's a treatment that his wife didn't respond to, but that was covered. And one that she is responding to, but its pushing them WAY over the edge financially.
TFA is crap. Here's just one obvious howler:
"Consider SCO, a small Swiss-based "vulture" firm that had bought up the intellectual property rights to a particular version of Unix and threatened Linux users with lawsuits over infringement of those rights unless they agree to pay substantial licensing fees."
When did they move Linden, Utah to Switzerland? I think both the US State Department and the Swiss government would be upset.