You can't own an IPv4 address. That's been the policy for over a decade.
The policy of the organization that OWNS them.
The problem is that the central orgs that assign IP address spaces reserve the right to revoke them at any time, for any reason (or no reason). So unless you're IANA or APNIC or RIPE or one of the other regional authorities, forget it.
Also, even they don't "own" the numbers - they just administer them. Nobody "owns" them. You can't "own" a number.
There's nothing to stop you from creating your own network, and using the same set of 4 billion numbers.
There's nothing to stop me from setting up a lilypad of wireless networked machines using the same set of numbers, running my own DNS server, and serving up my own domain system to whoever adds those servers to their/etc/resolv.conf file. Since it wouldn't be "The" Internet, just an "internet", it would be a good way for municipalities to neatly sidestep the incumbents attacks on municipal free access. Let individuals provide the gateways to the "real" internet.
The OP was claiming that you could own an IP address. IP addresses are revokable at any time for any reason, or no reason at all. So their original argument is invalid.
Then you have the problem with "owning" a TLD that you create. Even that is subject to annual costs. Don't pay the costs, and you drop off the Internet. Your TLD ceases to exist.
I don't use "can" to mean "may" I use it as "it would not be impossible."
Ownership of domain names is good enough to call it that for economic purposes... You have full control over what happens to it, what DNS records are kept with it, who to trade it with, for all intents/purposes you own it.
Again, you're factually wrong. As I pointed out, you cannot, contrary to your original assertion, own an IP address. Ditto with a domain name. You only lease/license them.
If you stop paying your car license plates, you still own your car - you just can't drive it on public roads. You stop paying your domain registration, you lose it. Same thing with "ownership" or an IP address or domain.
ARIN reserves the right to revoke IP address allocations at any time and without prior notice. So much for your "ownership" theory.
Next thing you tell me you can't own domain names or email addresses either? Of course you can't own numbers, but you can own IPv4 addresses
You can't own an IPv4 address. That's been the policy for over a decade.
And no, you can't own a domain name either. If you don't pay the renewal fee, and anyone can register it after it lapses - so you're just licensing or leasing it.
And since email addresses are connected to domain names, you don't own them either.
Since more people use Google than just use Windows (since you can access Google from desktop, mobile, etc) and Google runs on Linux, knowledge of Linux is a marketable skill, as a majority of people are using it.
Before the car, people predicted that cities of millions would be impossible because we'd be 6 feet deep in horse manure. Exponential growth is always reined in long-term.
Things can also decline exponentially. We're not knee-deep in horse manure, game cartridges, 8-track tapes or 5-1/4" floppies any more. Standard-def TV? You can't give away a good 27" tv any more, same as 19" crt monitors.
How about those Hummer sales?
Or house prices?
With only 2 data points (you're the one who points this out) , you simply cannot make any claim that it will continue exponentially. We don't know what will come along over the next 10 years and make all today's assumptions equally obsolete.
The facts from their own chart: 10 billion in physical game sales vs 200 million in app sales. Even if it increases by 200 million a year, it will take a long time to catch up.
Also, last years decline in physical sales was due to the Great Recession, and has already been reversed.
I have to agree. Going from slack to freebsd wasn't that big a deal. Then again. I'm talking about slakware 3.something-or-other. You *had* to be motivated, since just downloading the floppies took forever.
Then don't take the course. How hard is that, anyway?
If you don't have the prerequisites, then either
study something else,
get the prerequisites,
put it off to next year.
Now if this was a "club-type intro to..." thing instead of a college or university course, I could understand slacking on the requirements. But this was not presented as that sort of scenario.
If I were to sign up for a course in BSD, I would first read about it, then get a BSD system and play around with it, so as to get the MOST out of my class.
As a teacher, I would expect - no, I would demand - the same from the students.
As for the rest, completely off-topic, since linux was the question, not compilers, etc.
These are university students, not granny at the YWCA.
If you're taking a course in something, it's expected that you will bone up on it to prepare for the class. Any student who doesn't do some background beforehand deserves to be failed the first day, BEFORE they drag down the rest of the class.
This is not grade school, or even high school. Students are not expected to be a tabula rasa. If you're taking a college-level course in linux, you'd better have a few hours under your belt to give you some context before the first class - otherwise, you're simply not prepared, and obviously also not sufficiently motivated.
Once you're out of high school, you're expected to be able to do some research yourself. No more being spoon fed. That's for PHBs.
Second, learning a second language is normal for people in most of the world. It's funny how Americans like to hide behind excuses like "it's immigration."
We have the same problem in Kanuckistan - and it's the people in the two official language groups who are the laggards, not the immigrants. In other words, it's the same situation as in the US.
The ultimate cause is immaterial. The fact is that the arrival of Ubuntu coincides with the drop in the percentage of people who use linux as a desktop, and that more people are having problems with Ubuntu than all the other main distros combined.
If Ubuntu were so great, I would expect to see both a rise in the percentage of linux desktops, and FEWER, not more, complaints.
I would also expect that Dell would have increased, not cut back, their Ubuntu linux offerings. That was a nasty and very public failure.
Right. It couldn't be that they didn't have regular Internet access until they started university. It couldn't be that they couldn't afford a second (or even first) computer to install Linux on. It couldn't be that they're entering university to satisfy their curiosity. It has to be that they're idiots who'll never be able to grasp the concept of a CLI.
No, it couldn't be, because you can get decent linux boxes free out of the local dumpster, like this guy. People are throwing out P4s and AMD64 systems.
And if you can't afford $200 for a netbook with linux pre-installed, you won't be able to afford the text books, never mind the supplemental course and lab fees, the student union fees, transportation, ramen noodles, etc.
And there's almost always a free or unsecured wifi around.
What truth? I'd like to see your evidence. Search results are not truth.
You seem to be on an emotional posting spree of destructive negativity, trolling, and just general FUD.
Maybe you should sit back, relax, and think about how you present yourself in public.
So why not, instead of whining, produce some proof to the contrary? I'm sick and tired of all the Ubuntu fanbois claiming how their distro is so "superior", when its appearance tracks the decline in percentage of linux desktop users because it breaks more often. It's not a coincidence.
Here's a news flash for you: You don't go to school to be spoon-fed information. More than half of all the people in college and university shouldn't be there, for one simple reason
they can't learn unless it's fed to them in dribs and drabs, so they aren't really "learning" anything.
It's called "grade inflation" for a reason. Time to put some rules into place, such as "if you don't have basic reading, writing, and math skills, you don't get in."
* 42 million American adults can't read at all; 50 million are unable to read at a higher level that is expected of a fourth or fifth grader.
* The number of adults that are classified as functionally illiterate increases by about 2.25 million each year.
* 20 percent of high school seniors can be classified as being functionally illiterate at the time they graduate.
None of these qualify for admission, and yet they get in, because of the almighty buck.
And from the looks of the postings here on slashdot, many stay functionally illiterate throughout their lives. These are not people who should be learning about computers - they should be learning how to read and write.
Your point being? The fact is, Ubuntu has NOT been a blessing to the overall linux community. The percentage of linux users on the desktop has gone DOWN, not up, since Ubuntu, in large part because Ubuntu breaks easier/more often, and people then give up, assuming ALL linux distros are just as bad.
Too bad if the truth hurts, but we'd be a lot further ahead without Ubuntu; Canonical is noted for one thing - hyping their "different vision" to the detriment of the entire communityy. Wayland is just the latest example - trying to claim they're "out front" and everyone else is behind, when it's not even something they're shipping (so they're at least as behind as everyone else). Ditto how one month they're going to be THE company for cloud computing, the next they're going to be THE company for a tablet OS.
Appointing Matt Asay was just another in a long line of stupid moves, same as sticking with their original fugly color scheme for years, only to switch it for another equally fugly color scheme when they're not trying to come up with something that looks like an old Apple theme.
I don't agree with this. I didn't start to use linux until right before i started studying CS. Now I use linux every day and I've got a nice little server running linux. I would consider myself proficient with basic unix tools.
Since you didn't say that you actually took a course in linux first, you might be proving my point.
as a basement dweller i seriously needed an anime hookup. i spent 4 days straight learning how to compile programs, then mplayer, then what a codec was, via system libraries, the gui, how to compile E16, how torrents and other p2p worked.
figure out something that drives today's youth with the same vigor, from the subdomain of scholastics. figure that out and you're a rich, rich person.
Porn, booze and drugs.
That's been available freely on any campus LONG before open source was a buzz-word.
If you want them to actually learn anything, I'd get rid of Ubuntu and use Slackware.
Get rid of Ubuntu
.. and use any other mainstream distro
Fixed that for you. Ubunto does not now, and never has had, the same goals as the rest of the community. It has a lot more in common with the over-hyping of vaporware (eg: Wayland) and the crappy software release history of Microsoft than with the stalwarts of the linux community.
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You can't own an IPv4 address. That's been the policy for over a decade.
The policy of the organization that OWNS them.
The problem is that the central orgs that assign IP address spaces reserve the right to revoke them at any time, for any reason (or no reason). So unless you're IANA or APNIC or RIPE or one of the other regional authorities, forget it.
Also, even they don't "own" the numbers - they just administer them. Nobody "owns" them. You can't "own" a number.
There's nothing to stop you from creating your own network, and using the same set of 4 billion numbers.
There's nothing to stop me from setting up a lilypad of wireless networked machines using the same set of numbers, running my own DNS server, and serving up my own domain system to whoever adds those servers to their /etc/resolv.conf file. Since it wouldn't be "The" Internet, just an "internet", it would be a good way for municipalities to neatly sidestep the incumbents attacks on municipal free access. Let individuals provide the gateways to the "real" internet.
Then you have the problem with "owning" a TLD that you create. Even that is subject to annual costs. Don't pay the costs, and you drop off the Internet. Your TLD ceases to exist.
I don't use "can" to mean "may" I use it as "it would not be impossible."
Ownership of domain names is good enough to call it that for economic purposes... You have full control over what happens to it, what DNS records are kept with it, who to trade it with, for all intents/purposes you own it.
Again, you're factually wrong. As I pointed out, you cannot, contrary to your original assertion, own an IP address. Ditto with a domain name. You only lease/license them.
If you stop paying your car license plates, you still own your car - you just can't drive it on public roads. You stop paying your domain registration, you lose it. Same thing with "ownership" or an IP address or domain.
ARIN reserves the right to revoke IP address allocations at any time and without prior notice. So much for your "ownership" theory.
Next thing you tell me you can't own domain names or email addresses either? Of course you can't own numbers, but you can own IPv4 addresses
You can't own an IPv4 address. That's been the policy for over a decade.
And no, you can't own a domain name either. If you don't pay the renewal fee, and anyone can register it after it lapses - so you're just licensing or leasing it.
And since email addresses are connected to domain names, you don't own them either.
Since more people use Google than just use Windows (since you can access Google from desktop, mobile, etc) and Google runs on Linux, knowledge of Linux is a marketable skill, as a majority of people are using it.
Before the car, people predicted that cities of millions would be impossible because we'd be 6 feet deep in horse manure. Exponential growth is always reined in long-term.
Things can also decline exponentially. We're not knee-deep in horse manure, game cartridges, 8-track tapes or 5-1/4" floppies any more. Standard-def TV? You can't give away a good 27" tv any more, same as 19" crt monitors.
How about those Hummer sales?
Or house prices?
With only 2 data points (you're the one who points this out) , you simply cannot make any claim that it will continue exponentially. We don't know what will come along over the next 10 years and make all today's assumptions equally obsolete.
Oh look - the apk "you can protect your computer from viruses with a hosts file" dickhead.
Also, last years decline in physical sales was due to the Great Recession, and has already been reversed.
I have to agree. Going from slack to freebsd wasn't that big a deal. Then again. I'm talking about slakware 3.something-or-other. You *had* to be motivated, since just downloading the floppies took forever.
If you don't have the prerequisites, then either
Now if this was a "club-type intro to ..." thing instead of a college or university course, I could understand slacking on the requirements. But this was not presented as that sort of scenario.
As a teacher, I would expect - no, I would demand - the same from the students.
As for the rest, completely off-topic, since linux was the question, not compilers, etc.
These are university students, not granny at the YWCA.
This is not grade school, or even high school. Students are not expected to be a tabula rasa. If you're taking a college-level course in linux, you'd better have a few hours under your belt to give you some context before the first class - otherwise, you're simply not prepared, and obviously also not sufficiently motivated.
Once you're out of high school, you're expected to be able to do some research yourself. No more being spoon fed. That's for PHBs.
First, these are ADULTS, not children.
Second, learning a second language is normal for people in most of the world. It's funny how Americans like to hide behind excuses like "it's immigration."
We have the same problem in Kanuckistan - and it's the people in the two official language groups who are the laggards, not the immigrants. In other words, it's the same situation as in the US.
Most of them were accidental.
And the goatse guy and tubgirl.
And LOTS of dead people. Anyone want to date a zombie?
If Ubuntu were so great, I would expect to see both a rise in the percentage of linux desktops, and FEWER, not more, complaints.
I would also expect that Dell would have increased, not cut back, their Ubuntu linux offerings. That was a nasty and very public failure.
Right. It couldn't be that they didn't have regular Internet access until they started university. It couldn't be that they couldn't afford a second (or even first) computer to install Linux on. It couldn't be that they're entering university to satisfy their curiosity. It has to be that they're idiots who'll never be able to grasp the concept of a CLI.
No, it couldn't be, because you can get decent linux boxes free out of the local dumpster, like this guy. People are throwing out P4s and AMD64 systems.
And if you can't afford $200 for a netbook with linux pre-installed, you won't be able to afford the text books, never mind the supplemental course and lab fees, the student union fees, transportation, ramen noodles, etc.
And there's almost always a free or unsecured wifi around.
So if they already know everything about Linux
Straw man argument alert. Nobody has ever said "already know everything about linux.
What truth? I'd like to see your evidence. Search results are not truth.
You seem to be on an emotional posting spree of destructive negativity, trolling, and just general FUD.
Maybe you should sit back, relax, and think about how you present yourself in public.
So why not, instead of whining, produce some proof to the contrary? I'm sick and tired of all the Ubuntu fanbois claiming how their distro is so "superior", when its appearance tracks the decline in percentage of linux desktop users because it breaks more often. It's not a coincidence.
they can't learn unless it's fed to them in dribs and drabs, so they aren't really "learning" anything.
It's called "grade inflation" for a reason. Time to put some rules into place, such as "if you don't have basic reading, writing, and math skills, you don't get in."
http://education-portal.com/articles/Grim_Illiteracy_Statistics_Indicate_Americans_Have_a_Reading_Problem.html
* 42 million American adults can't read at all; 50 million are unable to read at a higher level that is expected of a fourth or fifth grader.
* The number of adults that are classified as functionally illiterate increases by about 2.25 million each year.
* 20 percent of high school seniors can be classified as being functionally illiterate at the time they graduate.
None of these qualify for admission, and yet they get in, because of the almighty buck.
And from the looks of the postings here on slashdot, many stay functionally illiterate throughout their lives. These are not people who should be learning about computers - they should be learning how to read and write.
Too bad if the truth hurts, but we'd be a lot further ahead without Ubuntu; Canonical is noted for one thing - hyping their "different vision" to the detriment of the entire communityy. Wayland is just the latest example - trying to claim they're "out front" and everyone else is behind, when it's not even something they're shipping (so they're at least as behind as everyone else). Ditto how one month they're going to be THE company for cloud computing, the next they're going to be THE company for a tablet OS.
Appointing Matt Asay was just another in a long line of stupid moves, same as sticking with their original fugly color scheme for years, only to switch it for another equally fugly color scheme when they're not trying to come up with something that looks like an old Apple theme.
I don't agree with this. I didn't start to use linux until right before i started studying CS. Now I use linux every day and I've got a nice little server running linux. I would consider myself proficient with basic unix tools.
Since you didn't say that you actually took a course in linux first, you might be proving my point.
If you consider vi simple as opposed to a complex tool, then Linux is pretty much beyond me, also.
The basic commands are VERY easy. Most people get flustered when they accidentally get into "beep mode." (you'll recognize it when it happens).
It's certainly no worse than debug or edlin were, and those helped bootstrap an entire industry.
as a basement dweller i seriously needed an anime hookup. i spent 4 days straight learning how to compile programs, then mplayer, then what a codec was, via system libraries, the gui, how to compile E16, how torrents and other p2p worked.
figure out something that drives today's youth with the same vigor, from the subdomain of scholastics. figure that out and you're a rich, rich person.
Porn, booze and drugs.
That's been available freely on any campus LONG before open source was a buzz-word.
If you want them to actually learn anything, I'd get rid of Ubuntu and use Slackware.
Fixed that for you. Ubunto does not now, and never has had, the same goals as the rest of the community. It has a lot more in common with the over-hyping of vaporware (eg: Wayland) and the crappy software release history of Microsoft than with the stalwarts of the linux community.
Overall, we'd be better off without them.