Seriously, they haven't even mentioned or hinted at the so "Apple" prices these things are going to cost. Will OSX even be loaded on these machines?
Of course not. Mac OS X isn't ready to ship yet. Did you see the public beta? The user interface was a disaster. Hopefully they've fixed the design flaws, but there's still some debugging and polishing left to do. When they do release it, it needs to be perfect.
It's hard to get excited about specs that were met by AMD/Intel over a year ago... Granted we're comparing apples to oranges, but does the average consumer understand the difference between a RISC and CISC (NOPE)...
They also don't understand the difference between closed-source and GPL. I guess all those Linux proponents should just go home.
as a user, i think i may have found a solution to the whole apt-get vs. rpm argument that has been boiling over for ever so long. this package management system could possibly change the world:
Wouldn't know the system's underlying code make writing assembly-based hacks a hell of a lot easier
How are you going to get that assembly code to execute on my box, with sufficient privaleges to trap for that kind of behavior? My server is set up in such a way that gaining the level of access required to run your code is (hopefully) very difficult.
Whereas with closed source, you really don't have a full understanding of how to attack it.
Don't be so sure. Someone goes looking, and finds a security hole in a closed-source OS. Nobody else has seen it, because nobody else was looking. They write a program to exploit that bug, and distribute it. You now have a security problem.
The open-source difference is, lots of people are looking at the code, and bugs are more likely to be found. Since the people finding these bugs also depend on the software themselves, they're quite likely to report the bug to someone who can write a patch, or patch it themselves and submit their patch to be reviewed and distributed.
Take a Mac. Connect it to the Internet. Do not take the four explicit steps necessary to render it insecure. Now try to access it remotely. Go ahead. I dare you to try.
While Windows always has TCP port 139 open even when file & printer sharing is not enabled, nmap can't even identify a Mac, because there are no open ports to get a TCP fingerprint from (assuming you haven't taken the first two of those four steps).
A student violates school rules, but does so with the permission of a representative of the school. Teacher gets in trouble, student is off the hook. Sounds reasonable to me.
Noooo, not the Windows Registry. More like the Preferences folder on a Macintosh. If one app's settings get corrupt, you just trash that file and the program rebuilds it from defaults automatically. With Windows, you can corrupt the entire database, and there's really no way to fix it (you can restore a backup, but not fix it).
I'm seeing some posts here from people saying "What's the point of this? Who would use it? Why don't you just use your talents to make Linux better instead?"
I'm sure Linus Torvalds probably heard some comments like this when he was originally working on building the first Linux kernel. Why not just use DOS, or Minix, or save up some money and buy a real computer, or whatever?
If nobody ever did anything revolutionary, where would we be?
Slashdot's position is that they are not responsible for your post, and they do not exercise editorial control over any posts. Andover has lawyers. They stood up to Microsoft, they can stand up to an 18-yr-old.:-)
ooh yeah! and, combining pieces from a Capsella set with Tinkertoys, hooked up to a relay on a 200-in-1 electronics kit from Radio Shack, and wires strung across the room.....
I think the point here is, the kid assumed that 'This kid' should have gone to the system administrator or someone in charge - not going behind someone's back - even letting the teacher know he was going to take him up on the dare - and got permission before doing anything that could be seen as a threat.
The kid assumed that the teacher had the authority to grant permission, and that he didn't need to ask permission of anyone else. If the teacher were responsible, when the student got in trouble the teacher would come to the student's defense, saying it's my fault, I told him to do it. That's what most teachers would have done, or at least most of the teachers I've known. This teacher needs to be disciplined, maybe not for making the joke that got misinterpreted, but for not taking responsibility for it.
Why does it matter to us what works best for you? So we can make what we have better. Obviously, you use Be OS because it's better than the alternatives. Bringing some of those alternatives up to the same level would benefit everybody.
I just want to point out that the reason there's so much bad HTML code out there is, HTML was never intended to express attributes of page layout, or really, physical appearance at all. A standard word processing program these days does more than process words; it also allows you do do desktop publishing, choosing the precise layout of your text and other elements. Trying to force layout into HTML is a difficult hack to accomplish at times (peruse my home page if you don't think I know what I'm talking about).
HTML is not the standard format that will replace Word's proprietary format. Microsoft wants a hacked-up version of HMTL to replace it, primarily because HTML has become a buzzword of sorts, but then you run into exactly the same problem with reading that format that you now have with Word - you'll need either Word or Internet Explorer in order to read it properly, because it will break all the standards and specifications the other browsers strive to adhere to.
I don't have the answer. I just know that HTML isn't it.
Excellent point, hidden in there somewhere. Yes, Be OS does use a different windowing system, and from what I understand (I don't know much more than you do), GTK+ has already been ported. Mac OS X also uses its own windowing system, which will certainly become more popular, but Mac OS X's GUI is closed-source, much like Be OS today.
With Bush certain to be heading up the Executive Branch, is it any surprise? All the lights are green now... I think Gore would have let it happen, too, just not so easily.
Um, in case you forgot, the current President of the United States is Bill Clinton, not GW Bush.
I use joker.com, and I've been very pleased with the service. They're quick to update, and they don't try to cram marketing crap down my throat when I have technical questions.
Advantages of NSI over joker.com:
At NSI, someone can list me as the technical contact for their domain, which gives me access to make changes (such as updating nameserver information), instead of my having to get the owner of the domain to make the change. Joker has a seperate technical contact, but the contact information is ignored completely. They just use the e-mail address and password of the person who registered the domain.
At NSI, if I move a DNS server, I can update the host information, and all domains that use that nameserver will automatically update. With Joker, I have to create a new host with the new information, and then update every single domain one at a time (see the previous paragraph).
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Of course not. Mac OS X isn't ready to ship yet. Did you see the public beta? The user interface was a disaster. Hopefully they've fixed the design flaws, but there's still some debugging and polishing left to do. When they do release it, it needs to be perfect.
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They also don't understand the difference between closed-source and GPL. I guess all those Linux proponents should just go home.
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Oh, so just like Slackware then?
installpkg foo.tgz
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Well, obviously it does the job. Hack it. I dare you.
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How are you going to get that assembly code to execute on my box, with sufficient privaleges to trap for that kind of behavior? My server is set up in such a way that gaining the level of access required to run your code is (hopefully) very difficult.
Whereas with closed source, you really don't have a full understanding of how to attack it.
Don't be so sure. Someone goes looking, and finds a security hole in a closed-source OS. Nobody else has seen it, because nobody else was looking. They write a program to exploit that bug, and distribute it. You now have a security problem.
The open-source difference is, lots of people are looking at the code, and bugs are more likely to be found. Since the people finding these bugs also depend on the software themselves, they're quite likely to report the bug to someone who can write a patch, or patch it themselves and submit their patch to be reviewed and distributed.
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While Windows always has TCP port 139 open even when file & printer sharing is not enabled, nmap can't even identify a Mac, because there are no open ports to get a TCP fingerprint from (assuming you haven't taken the first two of those four steps).
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I'm sure Linus Torvalds probably heard some comments like this when he was originally working on building the first Linux kernel. Why not just use DOS, or Minix, or save up some money and buy a real computer, or whatever?
If nobody ever did anything revolutionary, where would we be?
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Good idea, though.
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The kid assumed that the teacher had the authority to grant permission, and that he didn't need to ask permission of anyone else. If the teacher were responsible, when the student got in trouble the teacher would come to the student's defense, saying it's my fault, I told him to do it. That's what most teachers would have done, or at least most of the teachers I've known. This teacher needs to be disciplined, maybe not for making the joke that got misinterpreted, but for not taking responsibility for it.
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Not yet.
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I just want to point out that the reason there's so much bad HTML code out there is, HTML was never intended to express attributes of page layout, or really, physical appearance at all. A standard word processing program these days does more than process words; it also allows you do do desktop publishing, choosing the precise layout of your text and other elements. Trying to force layout into HTML is a difficult hack to accomplish at times (peruse my home page if you don't think I know what I'm talking about).
HTML is not the standard format that will replace Word's proprietary format. Microsoft wants a hacked-up version of HMTL to replace it, primarily because HTML has become a buzzword of sorts, but then you run into exactly the same problem with reading that format that you now have with Word - you'll need either Word or Internet Explorer in order to read it properly, because it will break all the standards and specifications the other browsers strive to adhere to.
I don't have the answer. I just know that HTML isn't it.
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Far more than that - have you seen NetInfo?
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Um, in case you forgot, the current President of the United States is Bill Clinton, not GW Bush.
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Advantages of NSI over joker.com:
At NSI, someone can list me as the technical contact for their domain, which gives me access to make changes (such as updating nameserver information), instead of my having to get the owner of the domain to make the change. Joker has a seperate technical contact, but the contact information is ignored completely. They just use the e-mail address and password of the person who registered the domain.
At NSI, if I move a DNS server, I can update the host information, and all domains that use that nameserver will automatically update. With Joker, I have to create a new host with the new information, and then update every single domain one at a time (see the previous paragraph).
Other than that, joker.com rocks.
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Moron. Of course it's peer-to-peer. The server is just a directory. Files are transferred between clients, not through the server.
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