What would be the recourse of the FSF or the individual developer of a piece of GPL'ed software if "Evil Company X" were to set up shop having a subsidiary marketing a derivative work in a jurisdiction which did not recognize the GPL?
Well, it's OpenBSD. Theo has been fond of pointing out how other software frequently focuses on adding in the newest, greatest feature while OpenBSD is more concerned with perfecting what they have first. If you like to play with new and bleeding edge technology, OpenBSD is probably not as good a choice as Mandrake linux or in some cases even a Win98 box. On the other hand, if you need a system which has been scrutinized for any type of programming bugs, OpenBSD would be the better choice.
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Wow, a reply from the author. Well you'll notice that my post had two points to it. (Of course I'm not a professional writer so please forgive me if I was unclear.) The first one I mention is that articles like yours have become rather popular and I don't trust the media outlets not to fabricate when they run out of burned IT workers who want to tell their stories.
As for "writer, performer, and techie" perhaps a different discussion would have been better suited for this particular article. After reading it, I can assure you that no one would hire you to configure BIND.
On a more personal level, I'm impressed that you did reply. As far as the references to your code-fu, I'm not. Talking about your coding talent in such a forum as/. is about like bragging about your 180 lb bench in misc.fitness.weights. Nonetheless, I extend my sympathy to your predicament and wish you he best of luck in your future projects.
I wonder how much cleaner thing really is than other ``alternative energy'' sources. For one it needs also to burn gasoline along with composted sludge gasses. For two I have no reason to believe that the methane and other gasses produced by the decomposition of veggies produce signifigantly less pollutants than say, a very fuel efficient gasoline engine. Maybe if the composting was done in bulk at a local center for purposes of fertilization, and gasses were collected and distrubuted, this would be more viable.
would come out to about 76 lines of code per day, that is if you took breaks on the weekends. Was this just an arbitrary guess, or is this a realistic estimate for how much code a professional developer does? Perhaps the math is getting irrelevant here, but this is looking like 10 lines of code per hour, per eight hour work day.
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As I read the article, I couldn't keep from thinking that this new trend in the press is really depressing. The whiz-bang new economy left a lot of good people burned. They cried, I cried, the v.c's cried. Now isn't there something else to report on? I'm not saying it's not valid news, but at this point everyone's heard this story more times than they can count, and yet they still keep wanting to hear it again.
I wonder how long it will be before some instrument of the press sees that the profitability of these articles exceeds the number of available stories. What then? Hire a journalist with a creative talent and a fair technical vocabulary? Good heavens no! From the article:
About the writer
David Wadler is a writer, performer and techie in New York.
I'd love to see OpenBSD go SMP in the near future but I really doubt it. Look at the recent/. interview with TdR. He doesn't seem to consider this an important project goal. There are probably other more pressing issues with OpenBSD (such as a more updated X11) but it's a shame we won't be seeing SMP integrated into this great os anytime soon.
Talk about the influence of state sponsored news media. Most Chinese, at least in urban areas do know that there are other types of governments and economies out there. Fact is, most Chinese must be fairly agreable to the present system or they would have picked up rifles by now. I'm not denying all the newsworthy but rare incidents such at Tianmen Square. I just think it might make sense to look at all of the more numerous non-incidents, such as the millions of Chinese who are quite satisfied to ride their bicycles to work each day without a second thought to internet cafes and the like.
Exactly which taxpayer dollars are being spent here? I've been under the impression that it is individual media companies, collectively acting under the name RIAA which are bankrolling the anti-napster side, and of course, napster paying legal fees on their side. Even the operating costs of the courts are covered by the litigants, right? I'm not necessarily calling you out, but if you (or someone more in the know than myself) could break this down in a way that I can explain to others who wouldn't otherwise be giving this case any attention it would be much appreciated.
Wow, space is an illusion? I guess that means I really was groping that blonde at the grocery store the other day. Now this is some science news I'm glad to hear!
This kind of story is better news than a lot of techies give it credit for. The dot.com frenzy of the last 2 or 5 or however many years was definitely not a good thing. Maybe now that all these ebusiness vetures have begun to eat dirt, we can get back to whatever it was that drew us all to technology in the first place. I, for one, know that when I was learning BASIC on my apple IIe, I was never enticed by the possibility of lucrative work as a web site developer. I liked my computer then because it was my favorite toy. Still do.
You have a real talent for missing the point. I was responding to someone flippantly pointing out that closed source development can work. Of course it can work. There is no cause for surprise and that's what i was objecting to. The second point I was trying to make was that the open source model offers a special set of advantages for future generations of a given technology which closed source does not.
However, both the original poster and I were referring to the differences in the open vs. closed source models and the results in the development of robots. If you feel that my social or moral evaluation of the differences is wanting, that's because I offered none. If that's what you're looking for, how's this: The closed source model rewards the best teams by giving them shiny prizes for their robots. That's great. The open source model rewards *all* participating teams by giving all of the participants a greater knowledge base and the benefit of shared experience. That's even better.
My guess, however, is that you would see either as equally desirable because you, of course, would be a member of one of the superior teams. Right.
Keep resting your case buddy. All that this shows is that the closed source development model works at all, not how well or in any long term timeframe. Surprise, surprise indeed.
Try thinking about this from a different perspective..at the end of the competition what do you have? a bunch of mediocre robots and a few really good ones. Now what do you suppose would happen if the teams all compared notes and shared blueprints after the competition? The average robot would be substantially better next time around, eh? Do you think that this type of across the board improvement would work with a closed source model?
Failing to understand what the open source advantages are doesn't make them go away.
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What would be the recourse of the FSF or the individual developer of a piece of GPL'ed software if "Evil Company X" were to set up shop having a subsidiary marketing a derivative work in a jurisdiction which did not recognize the GPL?
Well, it's OpenBSD. Theo has been fond of pointing out how other software frequently focuses on adding in the newest, greatest feature while OpenBSD is more concerned with perfecting what they have first. If you like to play with new and bleeding edge technology, OpenBSD is probably not as good a choice as Mandrake linux or in some cases even a Win98 box. On the other hand, if you need a system which has been scrutinized for any type of programming bugs, OpenBSD would be the better choice.
Wow, a reply from the author. Well you'll notice that my post had two points to it. (Of course I'm not a professional writer so please forgive me if I was unclear.) The first one I mention is that articles like yours have become rather popular and I don't trust the media outlets not to fabricate when they run out of burned IT workers who want to tell their stories.
/. is about like bragging about your 180 lb bench in misc.fitness.weights. Nonetheless, I extend my sympathy to your predicament and wish you he best of luck in your future projects.
As for "writer, performer, and techie" perhaps a different discussion would have been better suited for this particular article. After reading it, I can assure you that no one would hire you to configure BIND.
On a more personal level, I'm impressed that you did reply. As far as the references to your code-fu, I'm not. Talking about your coding talent in such a forum as
I wonder how much cleaner thing really is than other ``alternative energy'' sources. For one it needs also to burn gasoline along with composted sludge gasses. For two I have no reason to believe that the methane and other gasses produced by the decomposition of veggies produce signifigantly less pollutants than say, a very fuel efficient gasoline engine. Maybe if the composting was done in bulk at a local center for purposes of fertilization, and gasses were collected and distrubuted, this would be more viable.
would come out to about 76 lines of code per day, that is if you took breaks on the weekends. Was this just an arbitrary guess, or is this a realistic estimate for how much code a professional developer does? Perhaps the math is getting irrelevant here, but this is looking like 10 lines of code per hour, per eight hour work day.
As I read the article, I couldn't keep from thinking that this new trend in the press is really depressing. The whiz-bang new economy left a lot of good people burned. They cried, I cried, the v.c's cried. Now isn't there something else to report on? I'm not saying it's not valid news, but at this point everyone's heard this story more times than they can count, and yet they still keep wanting to hear it again.
I wonder how long it will be before some instrument of the press sees that the profitability of these articles exceeds the number of available stories. What then? Hire a journalist with a creative talent and a fair technical vocabulary? Good heavens no! From the article:
About the writer
David Wadler is a writer, performer and techie in New York.
I'd love to see OpenBSD go SMP in the near future but I really doubt it. Look at the recent /. interview with TdR. He doesn't seem to consider this an important project goal. There are probably other more pressing issues with OpenBSD (such as a more updated X11) but it's a shame we won't be seeing SMP integrated into this great os anytime soon.
Talk about the influence of state sponsored news media. Most Chinese, at least in urban areas do know that there are other types of governments and economies out there. Fact is, most Chinese must be fairly agreable to the present system or they would have picked up rifles by now. I'm not denying all the newsworthy but rare incidents such at Tianmen Square. I just think it might make sense to look at all of the more numerous non-incidents, such as the millions of Chinese who are quite satisfied to ride their bicycles to work each day without a second thought to internet cafes and the like.
Exactly which taxpayer dollars are being spent here? I've been under the impression that it is individual media companies, collectively acting under the name RIAA which are bankrolling the anti-napster side, and of course, napster paying legal fees on their side. Even the operating costs of the courts are covered by the litigants, right? I'm not necessarily calling you out, but if you (or someone more in the know than myself) could break this down in a way that I can explain to others who wouldn't otherwise be giving this case any attention it would be much appreciated.
Wow, space is an illusion? I guess that means I really was groping that blonde at the grocery store the other day. Now this is some science news I'm glad to hear!
This kind of story is better news than a lot of techies give it credit for. The dot.com frenzy of the last 2 or 5 or however many years was definitely not a good thing. Maybe now that all these ebusiness vetures have begun to eat dirt, we can get back to whatever it was that drew us all to technology in the first place. I, for one, know that when I was learning BASIC on my apple IIe, I was never enticed by the possibility of lucrative work as a web site developer. I liked my computer then because it was my favorite toy. Still do.
You have a real talent for missing the point. I was responding to someone flippantly pointing out that closed source development can work. Of course it can work. There is no cause for surprise and that's what i was objecting to. The second point I was trying to make was that the open source model offers a special set of advantages for future generations of a given technology which closed source does not.
However, both the original poster and I were referring to the differences in the open vs. closed source models and the results in the development of robots. If you feel that my social or moral evaluation of the differences is wanting, that's because I offered none. If that's what you're looking for, how's this: The closed source model rewards the best teams by giving them shiny prizes for their robots. That's great. The open source model rewards *all* participating teams by giving all of the participants a greater knowledge base and the benefit of shared experience. That's even better.
My guess, however, is that you would see either as equally desirable because you, of course, would be a member of one of the superior teams. Right.
Keep resting your case buddy. All that this shows is that the closed source development model works at all, not how well or in any long term timeframe. Surprise, surprise indeed.
Try thinking about this from a different perspective..at the end of the competition what do you have? a bunch of mediocre robots and a few really good ones. Now what do you suppose would happen if the teams all compared notes and shared blueprints after the competition? The average robot would be substantially better next time around, eh? Do you think that this type of across the board improvement would work with a closed source model?
Failing to understand what the open source advantages are doesn't make them go away.