I don't know about what other people think, but my take (as of this week, at least) on what the future of email might look like can be found at http://spf.pobox.com/aspen/email-future-1.pdf
All your questions are answered in the papers on SRS which were written by a professional cryptographer and security researcher at the University of Bath.
A lot of very smart people just like you have spent a lot of time thinking through the problems. Much of their thinking is captured in essays and FAQs available online.
This message is intended for organizations that do a lot of forwarding, like acm.org and ieee.org, as well as the vanity domain providers.
During the development of SPF, we have tried very hard to accommodate your perceived concerns, because the biggest problem with SPF-against-2821, as many people have noted, is that it breaks forwarding. But your perceived concerns might not be your actual concerns.
It would be really great if the people who might be hurt by what we're planning could get involved in the discussions, so we could ask you whether we guessed right, and if there are better ways to reduce your pain.
So, if the postmaster at acm.org happens to be reading this, or if anyone reading this knows the postmaster@acm.org, please ask them to subscribe-spf-discuss@v2.listbox.com
SRS is a pain in the butt, and the comments in this thread agree.
I have been mulling over alternative ways to solve the forwarding problem.
Would people like SPF better if we replaced SRS with a less onerous workaround?
If so, and if the workaround is agreeable, I think the last remaining technical hurdle goes away; all that is left to do is get buy-in from all the major industry players. I can try to do that next week.
Pobox.com has never believed in advertising. Email forwarding isn't web-based, so when banner ads aren't even an option, what do you expect from Bigfoot? You're basically opting in to be spammed. If you're not paying, you're not a customer: you're the product.
If Bigfoot is ad-driven broadcast TV, we're the rental store. Yes, we cost, but we're not ashamed: we're in the business of providing permanent email, and if we didn't make an honest profit we'd be letting you down.
I don't know about what other people think, but my take (as of this week, at least) on what the future of email might look like can be found at http://spf.pobox.com/aspen/email-future-1.pdf
cheers
meng
Folks should look into http://rating.cloudmark.com/ as one example of the kind of reputation service discussed at http://spf.pobox.com/aspen.html
cheers
meng
I'm getting the impression that a lot of the people who post objections haven't bothered to read the FAQ.
I suppose they also write lengthy criticisms of movies based on the teaser trailer and on reading reviews, without actually seeing the movie.
All your questions are answered in the papers on SRS which were written by a professional cryptographer and security researcher at the University of Bath.
A lot of very smart people just like you have spent a lot of time thinking through the problems. Much of their thinking is captured in essays and FAQs available online.
http://www.libsrs2.org/docs/
This message is intended for organizations that do a lot of forwarding, like acm.org and ieee.org, as well as the vanity domain providers.
During the development of SPF, we have tried very hard to accommodate your perceived concerns, because the biggest problem with SPF-against-2821, as many people have noted, is that it breaks forwarding. But your perceived concerns might not be your actual concerns.
It would be really great if the people who might be hurt by what we're planning could get involved in the discussions, so we could ask you whether we guessed right, and if there are better ways to reduce your pain.
So, if the postmaster at acm.org happens to be reading this, or if anyone reading this knows the postmaster@acm.org, please ask them to subscribe-spf-discuss@v2.listbox.com
Postmasters at other places like acm.org too.
Thanks,
meng
from Redmond
Hi.
SRS is a pain in the butt, and the comments in this thread agree.
I have been mulling over alternative ways to solve the forwarding problem.
Would people like SPF better if we replaced SRS with a less onerous workaround?
If so, and if the workaround is agreeable, I think the last remaining technical hurdle goes away; all that is left to do is get buy-in from all the major industry players. I can try to do that next week.
cheers
meng
Pobox.com has never believed in advertising. Email forwarding isn't web-based, so when banner ads aren't even an option, what do you expect from Bigfoot? You're basically opting in to be spammed. If you're not paying, you're not a customer: you're the product.
If Bigfoot is ad-driven broadcast TV, we're the rental store. Yes, we cost, but we're not ashamed: we're in the business of providing permanent email, and if we didn't make an honest profit we'd be letting you down.
mengwong@pobox.com