i like to say capitalism is like a great beast. untamed, it ruins your crops and knocks over your barn. properly controlled, it plows your fields and provides you with an exuberance of food and raw power
what capitalism is certainly not, is a religion. but some of these morons out there act like "capitalism" is a magic word that is the proper to answer to all problems. utter "capitalism" and we shout and exalt in joy and sing praises and hymns. because all the problems go away. that's the level of "thinking" on this topic by some assholes: a quasireligion, no critical thought required
"free market fairy solves all problems! the markets regulate themselves! how? with the farts of free market fundamentalists, it turns into pixie dust!"
if the data hackers grabbed ak 47s and stormed the colocation facility and ripped out hard drives, then your analogy works. the company is innocent and the hackers deserve full condemnation
but obviously that's not an analogy to what we happened with ashley madison or other infamous corporate hacks
more like the bank president installed a keypad on the bank vault by a well known manufacturer whose name is written on the keypad and is known to have default passwords on their products. he never changed the default password. or he wrote the password on a post it note above the keypad
the hackers simply punched in the obvious password, walked in and walked out. the hackers aren't innocent, no one is suggesting that. but obviously the bank president is hardly innocent either. his negligence is disgusting
now you have a valid analogy to what we are talking about here, and absolutely the bank president needs to be punished
no, calling him a moron is objectively true. orwell's take on political and social totalitarianism has fuck all to do with economics and regulating markets. to try to connect those shows a person who has some heavy propaganda indoctrination, little education on the topic, and an obsession. and they try to connect the two unrelated topics because it's the best their empty skull can offer on the topic
dumb. stupid. low intelligence. a moron
not an insult. objectively fact based on the content of their comment
orwell has nothing to do with market regulation
nothing
my anger comes from these morons camping on these topics and ruining discourse on th need to reign in corruption and corporate abuses with their wish fulfillment fantasy life that isn't really an ideology, more of a set of simpleton slogans for dim bulbs
they need a basic education in economics, and some obvious history: the gilded ages of victorian times for example
only then should they be allowed to have an opinion
an uneducated, wish fulfillment fantasy that ignores basic economic facts is not a valid opinion
"markets regulate themselves, magic free market fairy solves all problems!" is a quasireligion, not an ideology or political concept anyone should respect
this crap is made for morons and suckers by plutocrat controlled propaganda sources
that being said, libertarianism, european style, is respectable: it's about social issues
only this mutant american-style "libertarianism," that only cares about economics and only motivates simple minded social retards to agitate for less regulation and taxes for the ultrarich, is invalid and contemptible
if you (not you, justanotheroldguy, anyone reading) agitate for legal marijuana, gays getting married, women controlling their own bodies, etc.: i consider you a libertarian, and i respect you
if you agitate for less regulation of multinational conglomerates, you're not a libertarian. you're a fucking moron being used as a useful tool by propaganda channels pushing your simpleton's easily identifiable prejudicial buttons. against your own well-being. because you're too fucking dumb to understand otherwise. and i have zero respect for you, and a good measure of disgust for polluting the political discourse in this country with useless low intelligence mental diarrhea that only helps the ultrarich and large corporations
even regulatory capture is better than no regulation. the big guys corrupting the government and writing rules that help them, is still better than no rules at all, where the big guys simply crush smaller guys and consumers any fucking way they want: no regulation, remember?
plenty of countries handle regulation with far less corruption than us. that's what we should aim for. but asking for less regulation, is far worse, on any measure you can think of. you should be asking for regulations to be cleaned up
it's like the bad guys robbed the bank by paying off the guard
and your solution is:
1. fire the guard. no guard. hey, that will work to prevent bank robberies (!?) 2. forget the bad guys, don't even go after them or punish them
just let them get away with robbing you and not even mentioning them as the fucking cause of your problem. all you do is whine "the problem is we have guards who can be corrupted, you can never get rid of that problem..." hello? what about the assholes doing the corrupting and robbing you? do you have anything to say about their behavior?
what you should do is:
1. fire the guard. hire a new guard. evaluate him better and more regularly 2. go after the bad guys. punish them. make them pay. they fucking robbed you asshole
why do corporations escape scrutiny when they corrupt our government and so many morons can only criticize the government?
what the hell is up with that?
FIX the government. if you WEAKEN the government, the bad guys who are the actual cause of your fucking problem laugh all the way to the bank: you made their job easier, and rewarded them for fucking up the only thing you have to protect yourself, your fucking government
oh yeah, an orwell quote is completely appropriate to dispel a point about economics, you fucking moron
market regulation is not totalitarianism. if you think it is, consider yourself a completely propagandized retard
i'm not throwing around empty insults
to believe what you said is appropriate to my comment genuinely reveals yourself to be a low intelligence person, objectively. indoctrinated into a shallow dimwitted "ideology." i have to put ideology in quotes because the simpleminded slogans of dimwits shouldn't really count as an ideology, as facile and tissue paper thin as they are
capitalism works but it has to be heavily regulated
pushing against regulation by spewing propaganda for morons who buy simpleminded "logic" and then voting for the puppet, or corrupting regulation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... , this is how free markets die
a market is only free if it is heavily regulated. no regulation means the big guys abuse smaller players and consumers
the richest, happiest societies have low corruption and good social safety nets. anyone arguing against either is a propaganda victim who is arguing for their own impoverishment, unless they are a billionaire plutocrat
we're talking about security exploits and the well-documented tendency for the guys in the corner office to hush things up rather than fix it, and you complain about "union campaign money" linked to deferred convictions. of whom? union bosses? don't you mean the corporate suits the union bosses hate, who are the decision makers on this topic?
do you even try to make sense when you spew your propaganda?
you're a moron. not a baseless insult. objective true: your partisan obsession has so eclipsed whatever dim wattage your brain possesses that you can no longer think rationally on a topic
this is no defense of unions. there's plenty wrong with unions. but linking this topic to unions is a blind obsession. laughably moronic, objectively so
you are what is wrong with this country
partisanship so blind, no sense of reason can prevail in your empty skull
no, there are plenty of mediocre MBAs who can't cut it. same with lawyers. same with any profession
there is, and always will be, people who get CS degrees and can't cut it, and people without any degree who succeed in the field regardless. supply and demand has to do with proficiency, nothing else, and a degree only correlates weakly with that point. this will always be true
so you let anyone who wants to pursue subject, pursue the subject. if the subject matter is important to your society, you encourage kids to get into it CS education in the grade schools
then let the pieces fall where they may
why is this so fucking complicated and difficult for people to understand?
this isn't a conversation. i don't respect you. you are a moron. my "contribution" is to tell you to shut the fuck up until you actually know what a fucking word is before you use it, you dumb useless fuck. i don't owe you anything, i'm not your father. i'm not here to hold your hand and dance with you until your dim watted brain registers what the fuck you obviously don't understand. it is your fucking job to understand a fucking concept before you open your ignorant pie hole and spout mental diarrhea. so do that, you fucking retard
that's all that exists as a valid force on this topic
if you resist education here (because keeping people dumb has always been a winning approach) they simply import workers form elsewhere or outsource the entire division
computer science is mind work. you can't control that, and to try to makes you a malicious fool in the company of some pretty vile assholes today and throughout history
that's all that exists as a valid force on this topic
if you resist education here (because keeping people dumb has always been a winning approach) they simply import workers form elsewhere or outsource the entire division
computer science is mind work. you can't control that, and to try to makes you a malicious fool in the company of some pretty vile assholes today and throughout history
is this the same submitter who is always whining about computer science education?
kids need to learn computer programming. it's a basic part of the world we live in now
if you don't agree with that or you don't understand, you are dooming the usa to pathetic second rate status. all serious countries in the world are ramping up computer science education. this is the fucking future and is a pretty obvious step for anyone remotely aware
it's like it's 1800s and people are trying to get more engineering education... but some luddite crackpot assholes are screaming against that trend
why?
for what retarded agenda is this propaganda drumbeat against CS education on slashdot anyway?
i can't even understand the upside for resisting computer programming and computer science education
computers are evil? we're going to preserve jobs for old fat mediocre programmers by keeping kids dumb? some sort of conspiratard freak out?
is it just "companies are evil, and companies want more CS education, therefore, resist CS education... hurrr durrr"
what is the agenda exactly with this moronic propaganda on slashdot?
and slashdot, can you please just squelch this retarded puerile crap in the future please? it does not serve your audience, your site is being taken over by some wackjob fringe
is it just one useless douchebag troll with enough commitment to flood the submission queue with his mental diarrhea?
wander around and learn as you want? most kids will do nothing. autodidactics are rare
so you need to cajole the kids into learning. the other choice is morons sitting there learning nothing. and that's worse than kids pressed to learn, and only some douchebag kids resenting that
criticism in a vacuum, that is, just complaining about what is wrong, without considering what is wrong with the other choices, is intellectually dishonest and immature. the simple fact is difficult problems in this world are choices between various subtle shades of grey. you get
1. slightly crappy, 2. slightly more crappy, maybe 3. maybe slightly less crappy, hard to tell
if you sit there and just criticizing choice 1, without even mentioning the downsides of 2, or 3, or admitting the upsides of 1, or proposing your own solution, is fucking pathetic and useless
you see this on many problems: drug policy, energy policy, policy on crime and punishment: people whine and bitch about the downsides of a status quo or a possible solution, and ignore the upsides, and ignore the downsides of the other options. ineffective, mediocre, and merit-less words and thoughts
so, ironically, you sound like the product of a bad education: you lack a truly critical mind
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exactly. well said, thank you
i like to say capitalism is like a great beast. untamed, it ruins your crops and knocks over your barn. properly controlled, it plows your fields and provides you with an exuberance of food and raw power
what capitalism is certainly not, is a religion. but some of these morons out there act like "capitalism" is a magic word that is the proper to answer to all problems. utter "capitalism" and we shout and exalt in joy and sing praises and hymns. because all the problems go away. that's the level of "thinking" on this topic by some assholes: a quasireligion, no critical thought required
"free market fairy solves all problems! the markets regulate themselves! how? with the farts of free market fundamentalists, it turns into pixie dust!"
if the data hackers grabbed ak 47s and stormed the colocation facility and ripped out hard drives, then your analogy works. the company is innocent and the hackers deserve full condemnation
but obviously that's not an analogy to what we happened with ashley madison or other infamous corporate hacks
more like the bank president installed a keypad on the bank vault by a well known manufacturer whose name is written on the keypad and is known to have default passwords on their products. he never changed the default password. or he wrote the password on a post it note above the keypad
the hackers simply punched in the obvious password, walked in and walked out. the hackers aren't innocent, no one is suggesting that. but obviously the bank president is hardly innocent either. his negligence is disgusting
now you have a valid analogy to what we are talking about here, and absolutely the bank president needs to be punished
no, calling him a moron is objectively true. orwell's take on political and social totalitarianism has fuck all to do with economics and regulating markets. to try to connect those shows a person who has some heavy propaganda indoctrination, little education on the topic, and an obsession. and they try to connect the two unrelated topics because it's the best their empty skull can offer on the topic
dumb. stupid. low intelligence. a moron
not an insult. objectively fact based on the content of their comment
orwell has nothing to do with market regulation
nothing
my anger comes from these morons camping on these topics and ruining discourse on th need to reign in corruption and corporate abuses with their wish fulfillment fantasy life that isn't really an ideology, more of a set of simpleton slogans for dim bulbs
unions do not have jack shit to do with ignoring car security
to try to shoehorn that obsession into this topic means you are a moron. not right wing, not left wing. just fucking retarded
there's nothing else to be said. keep trying to derail the topic with your low brain wattage partisan mental diarrhea. you're too dumb to talk to
they need a basic education in economics, and some obvious history: the gilded ages of victorian times for example
only then should they be allowed to have an opinion
an uneducated, wish fulfillment fantasy that ignores basic economic facts is not a valid opinion
"markets regulate themselves, magic free market fairy solves all problems!" is a quasireligion, not an ideology or political concept anyone should respect
this crap is made for morons and suckers by plutocrat controlled propaganda sources
that being said, libertarianism, european style, is respectable: it's about social issues
only this mutant american-style "libertarianism," that only cares about economics and only motivates simple minded social retards to agitate for less regulation and taxes for the ultrarich, is invalid and contemptible
if you (not you, justanotheroldguy, anyone reading) agitate for legal marijuana, gays getting married, women controlling their own bodies, etc.: i consider you a libertarian, and i respect you
if you agitate for less regulation of multinational conglomerates, you're not a libertarian. you're a fucking moron being used as a useful tool by propaganda channels pushing your simpleton's easily identifiable prejudicial buttons. against your own well-being. because you're too fucking dumb to understand otherwise. and i have zero respect for you, and a good measure of disgust for polluting the political discourse in this country with useless low intelligence mental diarrhea that only helps the ultrarich and large corporations
even regulatory capture is better than no regulation. the big guys corrupting the government and writing rules that help them, is still better than no rules at all, where the big guys simply crush smaller guys and consumers any fucking way they want: no regulation, remember?
plenty of countries handle regulation with far less corruption than us. that's what we should aim for. but asking for less regulation, is far worse, on any measure you can think of. you should be asking for regulations to be cleaned up
it's like the bad guys robbed the bank by paying off the guard
and your solution is:
1. fire the guard. no guard. hey, that will work to prevent bank robberies (!?)
2. forget the bad guys, don't even go after them or punish them
just let them get away with robbing you and not even mentioning them as the fucking cause of your problem. all you do is whine "the problem is we have guards who can be corrupted, you can never get rid of that problem..." hello? what about the assholes doing the corrupting and robbing you? do you have anything to say about their behavior?
what you should do is:
1. fire the guard. hire a new guard. evaluate him better and more regularly
2. go after the bad guys. punish them. make them pay. they fucking robbed you asshole
why do corporations escape scrutiny when they corrupt our government and so many morons can only criticize the government?
what the hell is up with that?
FIX the government. if you WEAKEN the government, the bad guys who are the actual cause of your fucking problem laugh all the way to the bank: you made their job easier, and rewarded them for fucking up the only thing you have to protect yourself, your fucking government
oh yeah, an orwell quote is completely appropriate to dispel a point about economics, you fucking moron
market regulation is not totalitarianism. if you think it is, consider yourself a completely propagandized retard
i'm not throwing around empty insults
to believe what you said is appropriate to my comment genuinely reveals yourself to be a low intelligence person, objectively. indoctrinated into a shallow dimwitted "ideology." i have to put ideology in quotes because the simpleminded slogans of dimwits shouldn't really count as an ideology, as facile and tissue paper thin as they are
capitalism works but it has to be heavily regulated
pushing against regulation by spewing propaganda for morons who buy simpleminded "logic" and then voting for the puppet, or corrupting regulation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... , this is how free markets die
a market is only free if it is heavily regulated. no regulation means the big guys abuse smaller players and consumers
the richest, happiest societies have low corruption and good social safety nets. anyone arguing against either is a propaganda victim who is arguing for their own impoverishment, unless they are a billionaire plutocrat
we're talking about security exploits and the well-documented tendency for the guys in the corner office to hush things up rather than fix it, and you complain about "union campaign money" linked to deferred convictions. of whom? union bosses? don't you mean the corporate suits the union bosses hate, who are the decision makers on this topic?
do you even try to make sense when you spew your propaganda?
you're a moron. not a baseless insult. objective true: your partisan obsession has so eclipsed whatever dim wattage your brain possesses that you can no longer think rationally on a topic
this is no defense of unions. there's plenty wrong with unions. but linking this topic to unions is a blind obsession. laughably moronic, objectively so
you are what is wrong with this country
partisanship so blind, no sense of reason can prevail in your empty skull
exactly what is wrong with this country
no, there are plenty of mediocre MBAs who can't cut it. same with lawyers. same with any profession
there is, and always will be, people who get CS degrees and can't cut it, and people without any degree who succeed in the field regardless. supply and demand has to do with proficiency, nothing else, and a degree only correlates weakly with that point. this will always be true
so you let anyone who wants to pursue subject, pursue the subject. if the subject matter is important to your society, you encourage kids to get into it CS education in the grade schools
then let the pieces fall where they may
why is this so fucking complicated and difficult for people to understand?
"they simply import workers form elsewhere" = H1-B you moron
what is your point? to agree with me by arguing with me?
thank you, that's what he is indeed
an education in {X} has an over supply and doesn't guarantee the easy life
{X} = any career in the entire world
you have no point
eunuch? that's a peculiar insult. you seem obsessed with something, perhaps you need a dating site
proof of being bored is not responding asshole
you have my permission to never respond to a comment of mine ever again
"The GP never advocated hard labor." you say. i lack reading comprehension you say
explain. i am quoting what the fucktard wrote
so explain please. explain the the disconnect, as you see it, between what the low iq douchebag wrote and my "lack of reading comprehension"
go ahead, i'm waiting
i won't get a response from you, because you're as fucking ignorant as the other moron
when did slashdot become full of retards?
i mean genuinely low intelligence crackpots?
i got as far as your first sentence and stopped reading. explain how my comment is "putting words in the the mouth" of this moron
go ahead, i'm waiting
i won't get a response from you, because you're as fucking ignorant as the other moron
when did slashdot become full of retards?
i mean genuinely low intelligence crackpots?
this isn't a conversation. i don't respect you. you are a moron. my "contribution" is to tell you to shut the fuck up until you actually know what a fucking word is before you use it, you dumb useless fuck. i don't owe you anything, i'm not your father. i'm not here to hold your hand and dance with you until your dim watted brain registers what the fuck you obviously don't understand. it is your fucking job to understand a fucking concept before you open your ignorant pie hole and spout mental diarrhea. so do that, you fucking retard
no, i'm part of the top secret conspiracy
we're onto the geniuses like yourself out there who have independently figured out our vast plot
curses you brave extremely intelligent detective, foiled by the truth finders again!
herp derp, herp derp...
hard labor instead of education
got it
you're a fucking moron. i have no respect for you based on the content of your "thoughts" on this topic
it address what you said directly. reading comprehension/ basic cognition is failing you wackjob
an education in anything can lead to a career that evaporates. ok
and?
what the fuck is your fucking point? why does that make any fucking difference on this topic?
i've seriously run into some weird clot of wackjobs here
supply and demand
that's all that exists as a valid force on this topic
if you resist education here (because keeping people dumb has always been a winning approach) they simply import workers form elsewhere or outsource the entire division
computer science is mind work. you can't control that, and to try to makes you a malicious fool in the company of some pretty vile assholes today and throughout history
supply and demand friend
that's all that exists as a valid force on this topic
if you resist education here (because keeping people dumb has always been a winning approach) they simply import workers form elsewhere or outsource the entire division
computer science is mind work. you can't control that, and to try to makes you a malicious fool in the company of some pretty vile assholes today and throughout history
is this the same submitter who is always whining about computer science education?
kids need to learn computer programming. it's a basic part of the world we live in now
if you don't agree with that or you don't understand, you are dooming the usa to pathetic second rate status. all serious countries in the world are ramping up computer science education. this is the fucking future and is a pretty obvious step for anyone remotely aware
it's like it's 1800s and people are trying to get more engineering education... but some luddite crackpot assholes are screaming against that trend
why?
for what retarded agenda is this propaganda drumbeat against CS education on slashdot anyway?
i can't even understand the upside for resisting computer programming and computer science education
computers are evil? we're going to preserve jobs for old fat mediocre programmers by keeping kids dumb? some sort of conspiratard freak out?
is it just "companies are evil, and companies want more CS education, therefore, resist CS education... hurrr durrr"
what is the agenda exactly with this moronic propaganda on slashdot?
and slashdot, can you please just squelch this retarded puerile crap in the future please? it does not serve your audience, your site is being taken over by some wackjob fringe
is it just one useless douchebag troll with enough commitment to flood the submission queue with his mental diarrhea?
so what's a better way?
wander around and learn as you want? most kids will do nothing. autodidactics are rare
so you need to cajole the kids into learning. the other choice is morons sitting there learning nothing. and that's worse than kids pressed to learn, and only some douchebag kids resenting that
criticism in a vacuum, that is, just complaining about what is wrong, without considering what is wrong with the other choices, is intellectually dishonest and immature. the simple fact is difficult problems in this world are choices between various subtle shades of grey. you get
1. slightly crappy,
2. slightly more crappy, maybe
3. maybe slightly less crappy, hard to tell
if you sit there and just criticizing choice 1, without even mentioning the downsides of 2, or 3, or admitting the upsides of 1, or proposing your own solution, is fucking pathetic and useless
you see this on many problems: drug policy, energy policy, policy on crime and punishment: people whine and bitch about the downsides of a status quo or a possible solution, and ignore the upsides, and ignore the downsides of the other options. ineffective, mediocre, and merit-less words and thoughts
so, ironically, you sound like the product of a bad education: you lack a truly critical mind