bullshit. he doesn't mention any dangers. he even talks about lower doses and less toxic effects, like he's making a one sided sales pitch
you have to be responsible in what you say, especially for certain drugs and certain delivery methods which can be very dangerous with slight alterations in dose or delivery rate. this is not hysteria. this is medical fact
when people are aware of the facts, drug use can be responsible and the prudes and hysterics lose. but when idiots die, the prudes and hysterics gain influence. deny them their influence by being responsible when you talk about risky drugs and risky delivery methods
i didn't know that was part of the definition of libertarianism, sounds like a "no true scotsman" fallacy, but let's encourage your embrace of rationality, because that's what i do when i say what i do
Can we apply the same reasoning to math & science? Because I always rather liked the idea of dividing when I see a + sign, and calculating a tangent when I see the symbol "cos". Because words change, man. Who cares that you've defined 'tan' and 'cos' certain ways? I like to swap them around!
wait, you're not doing rationality anymore, you're doing appeal to authority. you constructed a lame analogy that doesn't work because we are talking about political meanings which is not rational, at all. but to completely dismantle your lame analogy, yes: there are plenty of words in math whose meaning is ambivalent and changing:
you have to understand human language. you have to get used to the fact that you can't, don't, and will never control the meaning of a word. you seem like someone who has invested a lot of passion in a starkly defined political philosophy which absolutely has to mean libertarianism. in your mind, sure. in society at large? no, sorry, you don't get to do that. you will never ever get to do that. especially an overloaded word with a complex meaning like "libertarianism" which will most certainly change in meaning over the passage of time, and most certainly does, and has. someone calling themselves a libertarian in the 1970s would look at you like an alien
the class of drugs we are talking about are incredibly powerful, and the important thing is to emphasize care and the danger involved with using them. education is the proper antidote to hysteria
minimizing the danger and just calling that danger hysteria is just as ignorant and problematic as the hysteria over drugs that bothers you
a good drug user is a careful, educated drug user
this should be the primary focus any time you talk about a drug like bath salts
do you know what the official name of North Korea is?
the DPRK
which means the Democratic People's Republic of Korea
which is a joke
in politics especially, word meaning is constantly obfuscated and abused. you need to listen to what people say and what they mean, and completely ignore whatever label they use to describe themselves. it is meaningless, and fighting over that label and considering it's usage as some sort of sacrosanct issue is a ridiculous game
you need to understand that the common usage of a word changes, and not necessarily in ways you like, and this is exactly what has happened to the word libertarian
so find a new word unbesmirched by modern politics to describe the ideology that is important to you and you do not want sullied by any other meaning
nevermind the irony that any kind libertarian would cling to some sort of authoritarian unchanging source of legitimacy for anything, including word definitions
i am not being a prude, you have a right to do anything you want with your body. i am saying it is your responsibility when communicating activities of heightened danger to indicate the heightened danger
there are many drugs and delivery methods where there is a large tolerance to wildly swinging dosages and rates. then there are many other drugs and delivery methods where slight alterations in dosage and rates means the difference between a good time and death. meaning no one should engage in these efforts casually. but unfortunately, since recreation and escaping responsibility is often the motivation, people die with dangerous dosages and delivery methods
education and care is the proper antidote to bad experience with drugs. i didn't say prudery. but you can reduce the power of prudery in society by being careful when you communicate, and educating people as to dangers and harsh downsides. it doesn't make you a killjoy. death is a killjoy
you've arbitrarily identified line {XYZ} as the dividing line between left and right. when in reality, the line is fluid and is different for every society. what is radically right in the netherlands is radically left in saudi arabia. that dividing line also moves over time in any society
what i'm saying is: you don't have the right to arbitrarily and unilaterally define what left and right is. what you do get to do is notice one candidate is more left leaning, and one candidate is more right leaning. then strategically pick the more left leaning one for your vote. to give your vote any other way ensures the more right leaning candidate wins
strategically voting is the best you can do, forever, in any democracy possible in any society. nonnegotiable unilateral idealist voting eventually results in self-defeat (tea party fanatics take note as well)
that you are bothered at how far right from YOUR position the balance between the positions of the two major candidates is, doesn't mean anything. all it means is you have a very self-centered way of looking at your world. for example, there's some conservative neanderthals right now out there who think both romney and obama are both far left liberals. they firmly believe this as surely as you firmly believe what you believe about everything being far right. see the problem?
their, and your, self-centered ideological "center" is invalid. you aren't some sort of impartial judge decided what left and right mean. who said you were an authority on that? you aren't. the truth is the american people define it, en masse. not you. your point of view has no authority, it's just your point of view. that you think it matters more than political reality simply means you have a problem with blindness, arrogance, and an undeserved sense of superiority. enjoy your superiority, alone, in your ivory tower. it has no meaning or value in reality
take heart in the simple fact that over short term time spans while the pendulum way wiggle left and right, over the longer time spans, society moves inexorably leftward. i call that progress
but you are an ideological absolutist, and reality is ideologically relative. and your pronouncements from such rigidity results in self-defeating voting strategies, and self-chosen irrelevancy. just as surely as it just did for the far right scumbags who were just handed their asses yesterday. YAHOOOOOO!!!!
oh sure. after the already rich make an extra million moving your well-paying job to china, if you line up outside their gates every morning, they might let you come in one time and wash his car for a buck
every society has its own ideological center. what is crazy right in the Netherlands is crazy left in Saudi Arabia
all that matters is what the society itself views about its own society
so there is left and right in America: it is defined by America, about America
and while the American center might be far right for you, the American center is far left for some other guy in some other part of the world
what point of view matters? only the American point of view. your point of view doesn't matter, because all you have done is announce your self-chosen outsider status
the only thing your post means is that you are self-centered, and think that only your political point of view is valid
ideology is relative, not absolute. there is no such thing as an absolute ideological center. it changes in all societies and across time, it is constantly fluid
your post has done nothing but announce your own irrelevancy
the republican party will shrink the middle class and increase the poor. which means less spending and less business and a weaker country
strengthen the social safety nets, and the middle class grows, and the poor shrink, and there is more spending, and more business, and a strong economy
with all due respect, the European point of view means shit
every society has its own ideological center. what is crazy right in the Netherlands is crazy left in Saudi Arabia
all that matters is what the society itself views about its own society
outside views are... EHEM... a colonial attitude
so fuck off Europe. you have severe brewing problems because of the path of austerity. the USA chose to spend its way out, and is doing far better than you
in fact, if you hadn't noticed, austerity is fertilizing the growth of far right racist parties in Greece and elsewhere. so much for haughty arrogant liberal Europe
to me, Greece smells just like the 1930s German economy on the brink, and we know what came out of that toxic brew politically, don't we you smug condescending asshole?
solve your own damn problems, clean up your own ugly mess, then judge
Europe seems to me to be more racist than ever. your immigrants don't assimilate, they fester in ghettos YOU create and hate on europe, and europe hates them. meanwhile, we just elected the interracial son of a Kenyan whose middle name is Hussein. oh yeah, far right America: right got it
we'll remember your arrogance asshole when you come begging to us again to land on your shores with guns and the blood of our sons to solve your fucking racist problems
I am a solid liberal, but some of the finest times in my life is having a serious discussion with an intelligent conservative. But tonight, William F. Buckley is rolling over in his grave. The economy is weak. A shallow analysis says Obama should have been voted out. But you didn't deliver.
Because the Right in the U.S.A. has been taken over by shrill blind ideological fanatics and well, frankly, the stupid. So the only guy who could maneuver from the primaries, where the truly crackpot rightwing idiots held power, to the general elections, was an empty vapid lying suit like Romney.
The pendulum swings left and right in this country, your time will come again. But the only way you are going to get there, Republicans, is to use your brain. Stop pandering to the loud shrill dumb voices on the right. Cut them out, excise them, ignore them, marginalize them as they deserve, because they are a liability, not a strength. And thereby be a serious power again. Otherwise, you collapsed tonight, and you will continue to collapse, until you come to grips with the raging Randroids, hatemongers, and assorted narrow minded morons on your side of the fence.
Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of stupid moronic liberals as well.
But the difference is, they don't hold the power in the Democratic party for now.
Yours, one happy elated American liberal tonight
The path of lies, empty suits, vile sources of cash, and fearmongering was repudiated, soundly.
All is good in the world.
I sleep the deep happy sleep of the mightily vindicated tonight.
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bullshit. he doesn't mention any dangers. he even talks about lower doses and less toxic effects, like he's making a one sided sales pitch
you have to be responsible in what you say, especially for certain drugs and certain delivery methods which can be very dangerous with slight alterations in dose or delivery rate. this is not hysteria. this is medical fact
when people are aware of the facts, drug use can be responsible and the prudes and hysterics lose. but when idiots die, the prudes and hysterics gain influence. deny them their influence by being responsible when you talk about risky drugs and risky delivery methods
not sure if total moron or bad troll
Libertarians recognize rational thinking
i didn't know that was part of the definition of libertarianism, sounds like a "no true scotsman" fallacy, but let's encourage your embrace of rationality, because that's what i do when i say what i do
Can we apply the same reasoning to math & science? Because I always rather liked the idea of dividing when I see a + sign, and calculating a tangent when I see the symbol "cos". Because words change, man. Who cares that you've defined 'tan' and 'cos' certain ways? I like to swap them around!
wait, you're not doing rationality anymore, you're doing appeal to authority. you constructed a lame analogy that doesn't work because we are talking about political meanings which is not rational, at all. but to completely dismantle your lame analogy, yes: there are plenty of words in math whose meaning is ambivalent and changing:
http://mathoverflow.net/questions/7389/what-are-the-most-overloaded-words-in-mathematics
you have to understand human language. you have to get used to the fact that you can't, don't, and will never control the meaning of a word. you seem like someone who has invested a lot of passion in a starkly defined political philosophy which absolutely has to mean libertarianism. in your mind, sure. in society at large? no, sorry, you don't get to do that. you will never ever get to do that. especially an overloaded word with a complex meaning like "libertarianism" which will most certainly change in meaning over the passage of time, and most certainly does, and has. someone calling themselves a libertarian in the 1970s would look at you like an alien
from this page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
here's the third sentence, it should make your brain explode:
There is no consensus on the precise definition of libertarianism.
sorry dude
yes!
isn't it awesome!
so is false sense of complacency
the class of drugs we are talking about are incredibly powerful, and the important thing is to emphasize care and the danger involved with using them. education is the proper antidote to hysteria
minimizing the danger and just calling that danger hysteria is just as ignorant and problematic as the hysteria over drugs that bothers you
a good drug user is a careful, educated drug user
this should be the primary focus any time you talk about a drug like bath salts
do you know what the official name of North Korea is?
the DPRK
which means the Democratic People's Republic of Korea
which is a joke
in politics especially, word meaning is constantly obfuscated and abused. you need to listen to what people say and what they mean, and completely ignore whatever label they use to describe themselves. it is meaningless, and fighting over that label and considering it's usage as some sort of sacrosanct issue is a ridiculous game
no one owns or polices the meaning of a word
you need to understand that the common usage of a word changes, and not necessarily in ways you like, and this is exactly what has happened to the word libertarian
so find a new word unbesmirched by modern politics to describe the ideology that is important to you and you do not want sullied by any other meaning
nevermind the irony that any kind libertarian would cling to some sort of authoritarian unchanging source of legitimacy for anything, including word definitions
it does according to the computer
why stop there?
why not a movie with mcafee, nicholas, and hans reiser?
written by quentin tarantino ideally
then you should be responsible and warn people that people die from coffee enemas and alcohol enemas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_enema#Effects_and_dangers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_enema#Effects_and_dangers
i am not being a prude, you have a right to do anything you want with your body. i am saying it is your responsibility when communicating activities of heightened danger to indicate the heightened danger
there are many drugs and delivery methods where there is a large tolerance to wildly swinging dosages and rates. then there are many other drugs and delivery methods where slight alterations in dosage and rates means the difference between a good time and death. meaning no one should engage in these efforts casually. but unfortunately, since recreation and escaping responsibility is often the motivation, people die with dangerous dosages and delivery methods
education and care is the proper antidote to bad experience with drugs. i didn't say prudery. but you can reduce the power of prudery in society by being careful when you communicate, and educating people as to dangers and harsh downsides. it doesn't make you a killjoy. death is a killjoy
there's always some asshole like this
the problem is an intellectual property legal status quo that actually empowers these douchebags
you've arbitrarily identified line {XYZ} as the dividing line between left and right. when in reality, the line is fluid and is different for every society. what is radically right in the netherlands is radically left in saudi arabia. that dividing line also moves over time in any society
what i'm saying is: you don't have the right to arbitrarily and unilaterally define what left and right is. what you do get to do is notice one candidate is more left leaning, and one candidate is more right leaning. then strategically pick the more left leaning one for your vote. to give your vote any other way ensures the more right leaning candidate wins
strategically voting is the best you can do, forever, in any democracy possible in any society. nonnegotiable unilateral idealist voting eventually results in self-defeat (tea party fanatics take note as well)
that you are bothered at how far right from YOUR position the balance between the positions of the two major candidates is, doesn't mean anything. all it means is you have a very self-centered way of looking at your world. for example, there's some conservative neanderthals right now out there who think both romney and obama are both far left liberals. they firmly believe this as surely as you firmly believe what you believe about everything being far right. see the problem?
their, and your, self-centered ideological "center" is invalid. you aren't some sort of impartial judge decided what left and right mean. who said you were an authority on that? you aren't. the truth is the american people define it, en masse. not you. your point of view has no authority, it's just your point of view. that you think it matters more than political reality simply means you have a problem with blindness, arrogance, and an undeserved sense of superiority. enjoy your superiority, alone, in your ivory tower. it has no meaning or value in reality
take heart in the simple fact that over short term time spans while the pendulum way wiggle left and right, over the longer time spans, society moves inexorably leftward. i call that progress
but you are an ideological absolutist, and reality is ideologically relative. and your pronouncements from such rigidity results in self-defeating voting strategies, and self-chosen irrelevancy. just as surely as it just did for the far right scumbags who were just handed their asses yesterday. YAHOOOOOO!!!!
listen to what the american people just said with their vote
oh sure. after the already rich make an extra million moving your well-paying job to china, if you line up outside their gates every morning, they might let you come in one time and wash his car for a buck
trickle down economics in action!
every society has its own ideological center. what is crazy right in the Netherlands is crazy left in Saudi Arabia
all that matters is what the society itself views about its own society
so there is left and right in America: it is defined by America, about America
and while the American center might be far right for you, the American center is far left for some other guy in some other part of the world
what point of view matters? only the American point of view. your point of view doesn't matter, because all you have done is announce your self-chosen outsider status
the only thing your post means is that you are self-centered, and think that only your political point of view is valid
ideology is relative, not absolute. there is no such thing as an absolute ideological center. it changes in all societies and across time, it is constantly fluid
your post has done nothing but announce your own irrelevancy
the republican party will shrink the middle class and increase the poor. which means less spending and less business and a weaker country
strengthen the social safety nets, and the middle class grows, and the poor shrink, and there is more spending, and more business, and a strong economy
it's not that complicated
with all due respect, the European point of view means shit
every society has its own ideological center. what is crazy right in the Netherlands is crazy left in Saudi Arabia
all that matters is what the society itself views about its own society
outside views are... EHEM... a colonial attitude
so fuck off Europe. you have severe brewing problems because of the path of austerity. the USA chose to spend its way out, and is doing far better than you
in fact, if you hadn't noticed, austerity is fertilizing the growth of far right racist parties in Greece and elsewhere. so much for haughty arrogant liberal Europe
to me, Greece smells just like the 1930s German economy on the brink, and we know what came out of that toxic brew politically, don't we you smug condescending asshole?
solve your own damn problems, clean up your own ugly mess, then judge
Europe seems to me to be more racist than ever. your immigrants don't assimilate, they fester in ghettos YOU create and hate on europe, and europe hates them. meanwhile, we just elected the interracial son of a Kenyan whose middle name is Hussein. oh yeah, far right America: right got it
we'll remember your arrogance asshole when you come begging to us again to land on your shores with guns and the blood of our sons to solve your fucking racist problems
the above comment is exhibit A of the kind of shrill blind fanatic that you need to lose in order to win again
I am a solid liberal, but some of the finest times in my life is having a serious discussion with an intelligent conservative. But tonight, William F. Buckley is rolling over in his grave. The economy is weak. A shallow analysis says Obama should have been voted out. But you didn't deliver.
Because the Right in the U.S.A. has been taken over by shrill blind ideological fanatics and well, frankly, the stupid. So the only guy who could maneuver from the primaries, where the truly crackpot rightwing idiots held power, to the general elections, was an empty vapid lying suit like Romney.
The pendulum swings left and right in this country, your time will come again. But the only way you are going to get there, Republicans, is to use your brain. Stop pandering to the loud shrill dumb voices on the right. Cut them out, excise them, ignore them, marginalize them as they deserve, because they are a liability, not a strength. And thereby be a serious power again. Otherwise, you collapsed tonight, and you will continue to collapse, until you come to grips with the raging Randroids, hatemongers, and assorted narrow minded morons on your side of the fence.
Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of stupid moronic liberals as well.
But the difference is, they don't hold the power in the Democratic party for now.
Yours,
one happy elated American liberal tonight
The path of lies, empty suits, vile sources of cash, and fearmongering was repudiated, soundly.
All is good in the world.
I sleep the deep happy sleep of the mightily vindicated tonight.
exactly
if the standard protocols used on the internet were zealously guarded and a corporation attempted to control them and charge access for them/ require deals/ conditions to use them, we would have no internet today
a shame
it's pretty absurd a company that understands this future feels a need to move backwards
it's like early car companies building rocket skates for horses
why do you think your delusions define my life?
your post has nothing to do with reality. it has everything to do with your own malformed mind. don't pretend what limits you limits me, shitbag
go away. go away and lead your lesser life because of the self-fulfilling prophecy of your pathetic thoughts
yeah but its a bull market on hurricanes
here in nyc we have once a century hurricanes that happen every year now
i can also die from drinking too much water. not that that is a valid argument against drinking water