I was thinking something similar. With everything he's done, there's a possibility his DNA is tainted beyond recognition. Before and after comparisons would be great.
Don't do drugs kids, it'll melt your DNA. Don't be like Ozzy.:)
Well, if the "burnt to a crisp" did apply, figuring out the state of the heart would be a neat trick.:)
But, dying of a heart attack isn't instantaneous. Unconsciousness can come pretty quickly though. In those type of cases, if there was no firey crash, they may have survived.
That's semantics though. Kinda like shooting a dying animal. What killed them? The gunshot. Would they have died anyways? Yes.
Children who lived less than 200 meters away from a high voltage power line at birth were 70% more likely to develop leukemia than children who lived more 600 meters away at birth. Children who lived between 200 and 599 meters away from a high voltage power line at birth were 23% more likely to develop leukemia than children who lived more than 600 meters away.
Dr. David Carpenter, MD, Director of the Institute for Health and the Environment at University at Albany, SUNY (Dr. Carpenter is a public health physician trained at Harvard Medical School and Director of the Institute for Health and the Environment at the State University of New York at Albany) http://weeksmd.com/?p=3226
There is definitive scientific evidence that exposure to magnetic fields from power lines greater than 4 milligauss (a level significantly less that what is expected to occur near this proposed power line) is associated with an elevated risk of childhood leukemia. Some scientific research indicates an elevated risk at levels of 2 milligauss. A home not near a power line will usually have a level of less than 1 milligauss.
Comparing the children who had cancer with a control group of 29,000 children without cancer but who lived in comparable districts, found that children whose birth address was within 200 metres of an overhead power line had a 70% increased risk of leukemia. Children living 200 to 600 m away from power lines had a 20% increased risk.
One of the most telling results was that the cancer risk grew in proportion to the strength of the electromagnetic field. Children with constant exposure to the weakest fields, calculated at less than 1 milligauss (about the same that a coffee maker generates when it is brewing), had the lowest incidence of cancer. Those exposed to fields of 2 milligauss showed a threefold increase in their risk, while children exposed to 3 milligauss showed a fourfold increase in the risk of leukemia. Such a clear progression makes it difficult to argue that factors other than exposure to the electromagnetic field were responsible for the extra cases of leukemia.
There is a video floating around where someone cooks an egg between two cell phones. Of course, it's faked, but lots of people use it as proof.
If something could cook your eyeball like an egg, they'd suffer many more serious injuries that would cause their demise. That's kind of like saying the victim of a firey car crash died of heart failure, when the real reason was that they were burnt to a crisp. Sure, their heart stopped at some point, but I'd say the flesh melting from their entire body may have been a contributing factor.
I like it when the news reports someone died jumping off a building (or whatever). No, the jump didn't kill them. It's the impact with the ground that did. Wheeeeeeeeeee [SPLAT].
Well, non-ionizing radiation can be detrimental, but only at high levels and/or at close proximity. There was an excellent news story quite a while back, about a school that had been built under high tension power lines. The power company donated the land to the school district, and the district spent a few million dollars to build a nice school there. In the first few years, a significant number of students who spent a year or more at that school were diagnosed with leukemia. The district had to abandon the new school.
When I was in high school, I started a science fair project on the effects of the high tension lines. Under the right conditions (high load in hot weather, where lots of air conditioners were running), A fluorescent light bulb would glow if held up towards the lines from ground level.
That's a long way from the amount of radiation put off by cell phones. I know some people have freaked out about wifi AP's and cards, but there are no legitimate cases of medical problems from them that I'm aware of. I do love the folks who say they're allergic to RF. There was a case where the a whole group of people brought a class action suit against a provider because of the detrimental effects of RF, caused by antennas on his tower. He played that perfectly though. He had shut down the tower shortly after the complaints started. When it got to court, and the people were all bitching that they still had adverse effects, the provider stated (with supporting paperwork) that the tower had been completely shut down for months.:)
I personally had an experience with household stuff causing medical problems. I was born with a cataract, which caused my vision in one eye to be 20/40. I bought a new CRT monitor back in 1991. In the first 18 years of my life, the condition didn't change. Within 2 years of using that monitor, the cataract caused my vision to go from 20/40 to 20/200. There was some news about the possibility back then, and CRT monitor manufacturers worked to decrease the tube radiation, so 18 years later, we barely remember that it ever happened. In looking around, that may have not only have been non-ionizing, but ionizing (x-ray). The monitor has long since been tossed (who would want a 14" CRT now?), and I don't even remember the model.
That's a long way from what ionizing radiation can do though. If I had been exposed to ionizing radiation for the same duration as the non-ionizing radiation, I would have had severe radiation burns, my hair would have fallen out, etc, etc. Well, I don't have to explain it, all you have to do is look at the 2007 arrest photo of David Hahn. That's not acne.:)
I worry more about getting hit by a stupid driver in traffic, than I do about the RF floating around. I did consider building a faraday cage into the master bedroom of my house, but that would be for the pure entertainment value (and to block my cell phone from working), than for any real reasons.
nah, it was when Nextel was exclusively iden, which was only in the US. They didn't (and still don't, as far as I know) have iden service in Europe, so there was simply nothing for it to talk to.
At the time, they did have a "world" phone, which was a combination iden/GSM, but it was a one time, one week trip, so it wasn't worth buying another phone.
I switched off of Nextel when Sprint bought them, and they started screwing with my billing. How do you explain $300/mo overages when the phone's battery was dead in an area with no reception, and when I called to ask about it, they didn't show any usage, but still insisted I owed them for the overage. I told them to go have intimate relations with themselves, which resulted in them hanging up on me. I returned the favor each time they called me trying to collect it. Oddly enough, that's why I dropped Sprint years before. You can't extort money from me, just because I'm a customer.
The only problem there is forgetting to set it back.:) I do the same thing with shutting it off. Folks get upset when you forget to turn your phone back on for a day.:)
You may be correct on that. I just looked at their page, and it looked similar to the one where I remember it basically saying if you wanted to be delisted you were SOL.
On a few occasions, because another company used an irresponsible blacklist, I'd have to move the mail server just to get the mail working. That never made sense either. They'd complain to me that they didn't receive our mail, but it was an irresponsible blacklist on their side that caused the problem. That only happened 3 or 4 times over the last decade, but it was still an annoyance.
I hate the spammer problem, but I hate the irresponsible blacklists more. Well, it's more of a problem that some folks use the blacklist as a make/break decision, rather than just a suggestion. I've used Mailscanner for several years, which can use multiple blacklists to score the message. When I set it up, one isn't enough to judge it as spam, but if say 3 of 5 do, then it won't be delivered.
Datacenters are always funny for cell phone coverage. One in particular was mostly underground. If you were standing on one side, you were about 20' down. If you walked across the datacenter, it was at street level, but there was a thick steel reinforced concrete wall. If someone managed to make my phone ring, which did happen occasionally, I'd have to ignore it, go upstairs (to ground level) and out through the security checkpoint before I could call them back.:) But I've only had a few phones that you could even attempt to use in a datacenter. The Motorola phones I've had were the best for noise cancelling, so the caller could hear me clearly, but most of what I heard was the noise, until I'd go outside.
One place wasn't bad. I always had a good signal, but the noise inside was too loud to hear anything. I'd have to say "hold on", while I ran for the door.
Most of them were as you described. So much metal, I may as well have been in a faraday cage. No signal inside, and full signal as soon as I stepped outside. In a few places that I visited a lot, I left a charger there, so I could leave the phone charging while I was working. I always thought it looked funny having my phone on a managed PDU, but hey, it worked.:)
I went to Europe once (years ago), with my Nextel phone. I left it on quite a bit, so I could retrieve phone numbers, and call them from my local cell phone. The Nextel phone usually lasted for days if it was just turned on but I wasn't making calls. I had to charge it every night while I was there, because it was constantly seeking towers that didn't exist. After I got home, everything was back to normal. It could find towers, so it worked at lower power.
I really hated that story. The news story that is. Your doctor story is sadly accurate.
In the news story, they mix non-ionizing radiation (like RF) and ionizing radiation (like X-ray), and don't clearly differentiate them. Both can be bad. Ionizing radiation can be worse. They miss the fact that even if every source of man made radiation were to be neutralized, both still exist at background levels. Well, unless you are exposed to daylight, then you're getting a bit of both.:)
I won't argue that e360 are spammers. Anyone sending billions of promotional emails on behalf of anyone is clearly sending spam.
My question is, is Spamhaus the one who once you were on their list for whatever arbitrary reason, you couldn't ask, beg, or pay to get off of it, and used arbitrarily large blocks to accomplish it (like/8's in a few circumstances)? Looking at their site, you can now, but was that the situation when the lawsuit began? I know most were cooperative, but a few weren't. I knew someone who was written up in the WSJ, and because of that article every network they had was listed in a blacklist. It didn't have anything to do with the content of their messages going out, it was only to do with the writeup. My apologies if I'm remember the wrong list, which is why I'm asking.
Their implication is that there would be a white plume from the engines. If it were mixed with the jet fuel, it would always be present. Folks would notice if aircraft were putting off that kind of smoke. It may not be totally noticeable when taxiing, but it would be obvious during takeoff.
Being that aircraft all fuel from the same source at the airport, there would be no difference between aircraft, that is usually reported with chemtrails. As I've read it over the years, some dissipate quickly. Some linger for a long time. If it was included as a fuel additive for commercial aircraft, there would be no "sometimes" to it.
And just because a patent was issued doesn't mean that it really works, or that it's in use. People get patents all the time that lay dormant forever.
You sound like someone who's had the luxury to play with industrial lasers.:)
Thanks for the input. Before I posted that, I went looking around to see if I could find a pictures or a video of what kind of damage it would do to flesh. I assumed I'd find someone putting a pig or chicken part in front of an industrial laser. I was sadly disappointed.
I assumed the heat would cauterize the wound, but I guess if it's going across something thick enough (like a major vein or artery) without some physical assistance, it couldn't possibly do it.
Either way, the original discussion was for a much lower power laser, that would only cause surface burns. I've had surface burns from other sources, so I'd prefer it to a real firearm. For now, I'll just avoid being in the dangerous direction of industrial lasers.:)
A lot of that has to do with the specific weather conditions where that contrail was. Sometimes it'll disperse quickly. Sometimes it'll take some time. Humidity, wind, temperature, pressure, aircraft configuration and load all change the way it works. You can have significant differences in a relatively small area.
I seriously doubt any commercial carrier has equipped their aircraft with any super secret government gassing project.:) How exactly do you explain to the ground crew, "ok, fuel it up here, and then fill with this hose marked classified US Gov't property here." Someone besides the conspiracy nuts is going to talk.
An online confession to having hacking hardware, and pirated software. Are you sure that was the best thing to do?
Well, and an admission that you still have your archaic piece of equipment. At least you didn't admit that you really spend your weekends playing C64 games.
Don't worry, you have been under surveillance for months. We've just been waiting for probable cause to come in. Just wait for the interrogation. Just so you know, we'll be taking you to a base so secret, even the Pentagon doesn't know about it, and you'll be so far underground, it'd be faster to dig to China to make your way out. Don't worry about your friends and family though, all they'll know is that you died in a tragic car accident, and the body was unidentifiable, except for the wallet that somehow survived the fire.
Contrails are very dependent on the humidity in the air. Military or commercial pilots can correct me if I'm wrong. In really dry air, you won't see them at all. If there's enough humidity, they'll make pretty trails. Even if you don't have the humidity at ground level, higher layers of the atmosphere can have significantly different characteristics.
The picture in the link looks like a very nice standard rate turn. It's probably a departure, heading towards the destination city. Just before the turn, you can see where there was a little less humidity at that altitude during his climb, so the contrail was thinner.
Contrails don't usually happen close to the ground. It's very similar to the action of cloud formation, with a bit of encouragement by the pressure differences created by the wing. Clouds at ground level (fog) are relatively rare to clouds at altitude. You wouldn't normally see any close to arrival or departure, since the aircraft are pretty low. Even in nice subtropical Florida, where I used to live on the approach of a major airport, and now drive by two busy airports on a regular basis, I can't see that I've ever seen a contrail when they were low.
BTW, current humidity here, 78%. Current humidity for Phoenix, 12%.
I don't know about the 10 hours or 100 miles, but I didn't do the math.:) I live in Florida, so frequently watch the weather formations on TV (and now the Internet), so I'm very aware of cloud movements. We get some pretty nasty storms here in the summer (think instant hurricane type weather), so it's advantageous for us to know what's happening around us. Usually we can see bands of rain forming miles off the coast, and time our activities accordingly. If I have to go for a long drive, sometimes it's a race against the weather. More than a few times, I've been caught in it, and had to stop because I couldn't see more than a few feet in front of my car. When that breaks, you see the line of cars that pulled over because they couldn't see either.
The only "residue" falling from an aircraft that I could imagine that they could see falling into their yards immediately under the flight path would be if a part fell off the plane. That should be pretty obvious. "Look honey, there's a jet engine in the front yard.":)
Oh, I see your point now. It's a tool used by terrorists. Anyone causing wake turbulence would therefore be a terrorist. Just like all those evil people caught possessing DHMO.
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I was thinking something similar. With everything he's done, there's a possibility his DNA is tainted beyond recognition. Before and after comparisons would be great.
Don't do drugs kids, it'll melt your DNA. Don't be like Ozzy. :)
Well, if the "burnt to a crisp" did apply, figuring out the state of the heart would be a neat trick. :)
But, dying of a heart attack isn't instantaneous. Unconsciousness can come pretty quickly though. In those type of cases, if there was no firey crash, they may have survived.
That's semantics though. Kinda like shooting a dying animal. What killed them? The gunshot. Would they have died anyways? Yes.
Very entertaining. I don't know why you're taking medical advice from a physicist though.
NYU - Langone Medical Center
http://www.med.nyu.edu/patientcare/library/article.html?ChunkIID=94085
Children who lived less than 200 meters away from a high voltage power line at birth were 70% more likely to develop leukemia than children who lived more 600 meters away at birth. Children who lived between 200 and 599 meters away from a high voltage power line at birth were 23% more likely to develop leukemia than children who lived more than 600 meters away.
Dr. David Carpenter, MD, Director of the Institute for Health and the Environment at University at Albany, SUNY
(Dr. Carpenter is a public health physician trained at Harvard Medical School and Director of the Institute for Health and the Environment at the State University of New York at Albany)
http://weeksmd.com/?p=3226
There is definitive scientific evidence that exposure to magnetic fields from power lines greater than 4 milligauss (a level significantly less that what is expected to occur near this proposed power line) is associated with an elevated risk of childhood leukemia. Some scientific research indicates an elevated risk at levels of 2 milligauss. A home not near a power line will usually have a level of less than 1 milligauss.
University of Oxford and National Grid owners, Transco
(note: Transco would have an interest to find no correlation between power lines and any ill effects)
http://www.powerlinefacts.com/large_study_links_power_lines_to_leukemia.htm
Comparing the children who had cancer with a control group of 29,000 children without cancer but who lived in comparable districts, found that children whose birth address was within 200 metres of an overhead power line had a 70% increased risk of leukemia. Children living 200 to 600 m away from power lines had a 20% increased risk.
Time Magazine
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,158193,00.html
One of the most telling results was that the cancer risk grew in proportion to the strength of the electromagnetic field. Children with constant exposure to the weakest fields, calculated at less than 1 milligauss (about the same that a coffee maker generates when it is brewing), had the lowest incidence of cancer. Those exposed to fields of 2 milligauss showed a threefold increase in their risk, while children exposed to 3 milligauss showed a fourfold increase in the risk of leukemia. Such a clear progression makes it difficult to argue that factors other than exposure to the electromagnetic field were responsible for the extra cases of leukemia.
The Straight Dope
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2699/electrifying
I'll say this, though. Evidence for a link between EMF exposure and childhood leukemia turns up just often enough that it can't be entirely dismissed.
Oh, you can just email it to me. postmaster@localhost
There is a video floating around where someone cooks an egg between two cell phones. Of course, it's faked, but lots of people use it as proof.
If something could cook your eyeball like an egg, they'd suffer many more serious injuries that would cause their demise. That's kind of like saying the victim of a firey car crash died of heart failure, when the real reason was that they were burnt to a crisp. Sure, their heart stopped at some point, but I'd say the flesh melting from their entire body may have been a contributing factor.
I like it when the news reports someone died jumping off a building (or whatever). No, the jump didn't kill them. It's the impact with the ground that did. Wheeeeeeeeeee [SPLAT].
Well, non-ionizing radiation can be detrimental, but only at high levels and/or at close proximity. There was an excellent news story quite a while back, about a school that had been built under high tension power lines. The power company donated the land to the school district, and the district spent a few million dollars to build a nice school there. In the first few years, a significant number of students who spent a year or more at that school were diagnosed with leukemia. The district had to abandon the new school.
When I was in high school, I started a science fair project on the effects of the high tension lines. Under the right conditions (high load in hot weather, where lots of air conditioners were running), A fluorescent light bulb would glow if held up towards the lines from ground level.
That's a long way from the amount of radiation put off by cell phones. I know some people have freaked out about wifi AP's and cards, but there are no legitimate cases of medical problems from them that I'm aware of. I do love the folks who say they're allergic to RF. There was a case where the a whole group of people brought a class action suit against a provider because of the detrimental effects of RF, caused by antennas on his tower. He played that perfectly though. He had shut down the tower shortly after the complaints started. When it got to court, and the people were all bitching that they still had adverse effects, the provider stated (with supporting paperwork) that the tower had been completely shut down for months. :)
I personally had an experience with household stuff causing medical problems. I was born with a cataract, which caused my vision in one eye to be 20/40. I bought a new CRT monitor back in 1991. In the first 18 years of my life, the condition didn't change. Within 2 years of using that monitor, the cataract caused my vision to go from 20/40 to 20/200. There was some news about the possibility back then, and CRT monitor manufacturers worked to decrease the tube radiation, so 18 years later, we barely remember that it ever happened. In looking around, that may have not only have been non-ionizing, but ionizing (x-ray). The monitor has long since been tossed (who would want a 14" CRT now?), and I don't even remember the model.
That's a long way from what ionizing radiation can do though. If I had been exposed to ionizing radiation for the same duration as the non-ionizing radiation, I would have had severe radiation burns, my hair would have fallen out, etc, etc. Well, I don't have to explain it, all you have to do is look at the 2007 arrest photo of David Hahn. That's not acne. :)
I worry more about getting hit by a stupid driver in traffic, than I do about the RF floating around. I did consider building a faraday cage into the master bedroom of my house, but that would be for the pure entertainment value (and to block my cell phone from working), than for any real reasons.
nah, it was when Nextel was exclusively iden, which was only in the US. They didn't (and still don't, as far as I know) have iden service in Europe, so there was simply nothing for it to talk to.
At the time, they did have a "world" phone, which was a combination iden/GSM, but it was a one time, one week trip, so it wasn't worth buying another phone.
I switched off of Nextel when Sprint bought them, and they started screwing with my billing. How do you explain $300/mo overages when the phone's battery was dead in an area with no reception, and when I called to ask about it, they didn't show any usage, but still insisted I owed them for the overage. I told them to go have intimate relations with themselves, which resulted in them hanging up on me. I returned the favor each time they called me trying to collect it. Oddly enough, that's why I dropped Sprint years before. You can't extort money from me, just because I'm a customer.
The only problem there is forgetting to set it back. :) I do the same thing with shutting it off. Folks get upset when you forget to turn your phone back on for a day. :)
You may be correct on that. I just looked at their page, and it looked similar to the one where I remember it basically saying if you wanted to be delisted you were SOL.
On a few occasions, because another company used an irresponsible blacklist, I'd have to move the mail server just to get the mail working. That never made sense either. They'd complain to me that they didn't receive our mail, but it was an irresponsible blacklist on their side that caused the problem. That only happened 3 or 4 times over the last decade, but it was still an annoyance.
I hate the spammer problem, but I hate the irresponsible blacklists more. Well, it's more of a problem that some folks use the blacklist as a make/break decision, rather than just a suggestion. I've used Mailscanner for several years, which can use multiple blacklists to score the message. When I set it up, one isn't enough to judge it as spam, but if say 3 of 5 do, then it won't be delivered.
Datacenters are always funny for cell phone coverage. One in particular was mostly underground. If you were standing on one side, you were about 20' down. If you walked across the datacenter, it was at street level, but there was a thick steel reinforced concrete wall. If someone managed to make my phone ring, which did happen occasionally, I'd have to ignore it, go upstairs (to ground level) and out through the security checkpoint before I could call them back. :) But I've only had a few phones that you could even attempt to use in a datacenter. The Motorola phones I've had were the best for noise cancelling, so the caller could hear me clearly, but most of what I heard was the noise, until I'd go outside.
One place wasn't bad. I always had a good signal, but the noise inside was too loud to hear anything. I'd have to say "hold on", while I ran for the door.
Most of them were as you described. So much metal, I may as well have been in a faraday cage. No signal inside, and full signal as soon as I stepped outside. In a few places that I visited a lot, I left a charger there, so I could leave the phone charging while I was working. I always thought it looked funny having my phone on a managed PDU, but hey, it worked. :)
I went to Europe once (years ago), with my Nextel phone. I left it on quite a bit, so I could retrieve phone numbers, and call them from my local cell phone. The Nextel phone usually lasted for days if it was just turned on but I wasn't making calls. I had to charge it every night while I was there, because it was constantly seeking towers that didn't exist. After I got home, everything was back to normal. It could find towers, so it worked at lower power.
I really hated that story. The news story that is. Your doctor story is sadly accurate.
In the news story, they mix non-ionizing radiation (like RF) and ionizing radiation (like X-ray), and don't clearly differentiate them. Both can be bad. Ionizing radiation can be worse. They miss the fact that even if every source of man made radiation were to be neutralized, both still exist at background levels. Well, unless you are exposed to daylight, then you're getting a bit of both. :)
I won't argue that e360 are spammers. Anyone sending billions of promotional emails on behalf of anyone is clearly sending spam.
My question is, is Spamhaus the one who once you were on their list for whatever arbitrary reason, you couldn't ask, beg, or pay to get off of it, and used arbitrarily large blocks to accomplish it (like /8's in a few circumstances)? Looking at their site, you can now, but was that the situation when the lawsuit began? I know most were cooperative, but a few weren't. I knew someone who was written up in the WSJ, and because of that article every network they had was listed in a blacklist. It didn't have anything to do with the content of their messages going out, it was only to do with the writeup. My apologies if I'm remember the wrong list, which is why I'm asking.
Their implication is that there would be a white plume from the engines. If it were mixed with the jet fuel, it would always be present. Folks would notice if aircraft were putting off that kind of smoke. It may not be totally noticeable when taxiing, but it would be obvious during takeoff.
Being that aircraft all fuel from the same source at the airport, there would be no difference between aircraft, that is usually reported with chemtrails. As I've read it over the years, some dissipate quickly. Some linger for a long time. If it was included as a fuel additive for commercial aircraft, there would be no "sometimes" to it.
And just because a patent was issued doesn't mean that it really works, or that it's in use. People get patents all the time that lay dormant forever.
You sound like someone who's had the luxury to play with industrial lasers. :)
Thanks for the input. Before I posted that, I went looking around to see if I could find a pictures or a video of what kind of damage it would do to flesh. I assumed I'd find someone putting a pig or chicken part in front of an industrial laser. I was sadly disappointed.
I assumed the heat would cauterize the wound, but I guess if it's going across something thick enough (like a major vein or artery) without some physical assistance, it couldn't possibly do it.
Either way, the original discussion was for a much lower power laser, that would only cause surface burns. I've had surface burns from other sources, so I'd prefer it to a real firearm. For now, I'll just avoid being in the dangerous direction of industrial lasers. :)
You bastard. :)
A lot of that has to do with the specific weather conditions where that contrail was. Sometimes it'll disperse quickly. Sometimes it'll take some time. Humidity, wind, temperature, pressure, aircraft configuration and load all change the way it works. You can have significant differences in a relatively small area.
I seriously doubt any commercial carrier has equipped their aircraft with any super secret government gassing project. :) How exactly do you explain to the ground crew, "ok, fuel it up here, and then fill with this hose marked classified US Gov't property here." Someone besides the conspiracy nuts is going to talk.
I think he was lying. That's all any of us could get. Oh how I don't miss ASCII art porn.
An online confession to having hacking hardware, and pirated software. Are you sure that was the best thing to do?
Well, and an admission that you still have your archaic piece of equipment. At least you didn't admit that you really spend your weekends playing C64 games.
Don't worry, you have been under surveillance for months. We've just been waiting for probable cause to come in. Just wait for the interrogation. Just so you know, we'll be taking you to a base so secret, even the Pentagon doesn't know about it, and you'll be so far underground, it'd be faster to dig to China to make your way out. Don't worry about your friends and family though, all they'll know is that you died in a tragic car accident, and the body was unidentifiable, except for the wallet that somehow survived the fire.
hehe, that's a good way to say it. Those sometimes of have an intended intersection with the ground though, in most decorative ways.
Contrails are very dependent on the humidity in the air. Military or commercial pilots can correct me if I'm wrong. In really dry air, you won't see them at all. If there's enough humidity, they'll make pretty trails. Even if you don't have the humidity at ground level, higher layers of the atmosphere can have significantly different characteristics.
The picture in the link looks like a very nice standard rate turn. It's probably a departure, heading towards the destination city. Just before the turn, you can see where there was a little less humidity at that altitude during his climb, so the contrail was thinner.
Contrails don't usually happen close to the ground. It's very similar to the action of cloud formation, with a bit of encouragement by the pressure differences created by the wing. Clouds at ground level (fog) are relatively rare to clouds at altitude. You wouldn't normally see any close to arrival or departure, since the aircraft are pretty low. Even in nice subtropical Florida, where I used to live on the approach of a major airport, and now drive by two busy airports on a regular basis, I can't see that I've ever seen a contrail when they were low.
BTW, current humidity here, 78%. Current humidity for Phoenix, 12%.
My god, I didn't realize how bad the epidemic had grown! Outlaw it now!
I don't know about the 10 hours or 100 miles, but I didn't do the math. :) I live in Florida, so frequently watch the weather formations on TV (and now the Internet), so I'm very aware of cloud movements. We get some pretty nasty storms here in the summer (think instant hurricane type weather), so it's advantageous for us to know what's happening around us. Usually we can see bands of rain forming miles off the coast, and time our activities accordingly. If I have to go for a long drive, sometimes it's a race against the weather. More than a few times, I've been caught in it, and had to stop because I couldn't see more than a few feet in front of my car. When that breaks, you see the line of cars that pulled over because they couldn't see either.
The only "residue" falling from an aircraft that I could imagine that they could see falling into their yards immediately under the flight path would be if a part fell off the plane. That should be pretty obvious. "Look honey, there's a jet engine in the front yard." :)
Oh, I see your point now. It's a tool used by terrorists. Anyone causing wake turbulence would therefore be a terrorist. Just like all those evil people caught possessing DHMO.
WOW! That's an amazing shot. All the shots I'd seen before were near the ground, to show how the wake turbulence is at ground level, like this one.