"Look, the only difference between a white woman and a black woman is that when a black woman says 'Does this make my butt look big?' you say 'HELL YES!'"
Yeah, I used to use "Reply-To:", but the problem is that people still see your yahoo account in the "From:" line and bookmark that address, which is not what I want. That was one of the nice benefits of Yahoo Mail Plus - being able to set the "From:" line to one of your other accounts. But if "forging mail" is defined as sending from an SMTP server not controlled by the domain, then like you said: basically I'm forging mail.
I guess another way would be for Yahoo to support sending outgoing mail through your other account's authenticated SMTP server - they don't offer this now, but with SPF that might become a necessity. Pretty much means Yahoo becomes a web based POP3/SMTP client, which is essentially what I'm using it for now anyway.....
Isn't this going to wreak havoc on people who use their ISP's SMTP server when sending mail "from" other accounts (like, say, a work email account) because their ISP blocks outgoing SMTP port 25, and therefore they can't connect to their work's SPF-configured SMTP server? Or people who run their own email server and are forced to relay outbound mail through their ISP's SMTP server for the same reason?
I use a forwarding address from my alma-mater as my main personal email address (me@alumni.XXX.edu). They offer a webmail interface, but it sucks eggs. So I subscribe to Yahoo Mail Plus which allows me to send mail "from" any of my accounts (they verify the account before letting me do this), and I can also consolidate several accounts there in one nice interface. When I send email from Yahoo "from" my alumni.XXX.edu address, it comes from Yahoo's outgoing server, and the SPF record from alumni.XXX.edu wouldn't match (if it's there at all).
Is there any mechanism in SPF (or Sender ID) for this email setup?
> The first suggestion that I have is NOT to let > an electrician install the wiriing unless you > KNOW that they are capable of doing it right.
I second that. One of my friends was having his house wired with Cat-5 while renovating, and the electrician *thought* he knew what he was doing. Turns out he was going to just daisy-chain all the Cat-5 drops... that would have been a big OOPS if I hadn't talked to the guy beforehand!
Just goes to show you, assume they know nothing unless they convince you otherwise (as opposed to "oh yeah, cat-5, no problem!"
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"Look, the only difference between a white woman and a black woman is that when a black woman says 'Does this make my butt look big?' you say 'HELL YES!'"
... if you get a dispatcher like this one...
Yeah, I used to use "Reply-To:", but the problem is that people still see your yahoo account in the "From:" line and bookmark that address, which is not what I want. That was one of the nice benefits of Yahoo Mail Plus - being able to set the "From:" line to one of your other accounts. But if "forging mail" is defined as sending from an SMTP server not controlled by the domain, then like you said: basically I'm forging mail.
I guess another way would be for Yahoo to support sending outgoing mail through your other account's authenticated SMTP server - they don't offer this now, but with SPF that might become a necessity. Pretty much means Yahoo becomes a web based POP3/SMTP client, which is essentially what I'm using it for now anyway.....
Isn't this going to wreak havoc on people who use their ISP's SMTP server when sending mail "from" other accounts (like, say, a work email account) because their ISP blocks outgoing SMTP port 25, and therefore they can't connect to their work's SPF-configured SMTP server? Or people who run their own email server and are forced to relay outbound mail through their ISP's SMTP server for the same reason?
Oh, the humanity!
I use a forwarding address from my alma-mater as my main personal email address (me@alumni.XXX.edu). They offer a webmail interface, but it sucks eggs. So I subscribe to Yahoo Mail Plus which allows me to send mail "from" any of my accounts (they verify the account before letting me do this), and I can also consolidate several accounts there in one nice interface. When I send email from Yahoo "from" my alumni.XXX.edu address, it comes from Yahoo's outgoing server, and the SPF record from alumni.XXX.edu wouldn't match (if it's there at all).
Is there any mechanism in SPF (or Sender ID) for this email setup?
> The first suggestion that I have is NOT to let
... that would have been a big OOPS if I hadn't talked to the guy beforehand!
> an electrician install the wiriing unless you
> KNOW that they are capable of doing it right.
I second that. One of my friends was having his house wired with Cat-5 while renovating, and the electrician *thought* he knew what he was doing. Turns out he was going to just daisy-chain all the Cat-5 drops
Just goes to show you, assume they know nothing unless they convince you otherwise (as opposed to "oh yeah, cat-5, no problem!"