You argued that Apple was subject to a free market, and I pointed out that they are not.
Um, yes they are. Or do you think that every product that has some unique feature is not subject to free market? Xbox 360 has many unique features when compared to PS3, and vice versa. Yet the two are clearly competing with each other.
Macs are obviously competing with computers offered by companies like Dell, HP and so forth. To claim that they are not, is utterly retarded.
You are still being the retard who thinks that quality of a computer can be determined by staring at a bunch of specs. You still get bigger and heavier computer with inferior design and OS. Do you also buy your cars by staring at their specs online?
Some people like trackpoints, other do not. And trackpoints dont support gestures.
But if for whatever reason you enjoy using it, PC manufactures do offer the software. Fail again.
Show me as extensive use of gestures as Apple offers in latest MacBooks.
Backlit keyboard. Dell Studio 15. Took me all of about 30 seconds to find it. Rough man. Fail.
at least Dell.com didn't let me configure a Studio 15 with backlit keyboard. And is that the only PC-laptop with backlit keyboard?
MagSafe: won't argue its nice to have, but not a necessity. 2 cases out of 40 as you yourself said.
2 cases where the laptop broke down and had to be replaced. With Magsafe, there would have been zero such cases. And replacing those computers cost quite a bit of money in lost productivity.
Battery life. I'm not even wasting any more time going to check out your article, because obviously you are hell-bent on having sex with Apple computers.
I take that as an admission of defeat. When you are presented with facts, you just take your ball and go home.
And no, I have no desire to have sex with a computer, Apple or otherwise. Calling your BS BS does not mean that I have sexual fetishes about computer hardware.
arguing with a fanboy just doesn't work.
What makes me a "fanboy" while you are not? You seem to spend a lot of time bashing Macs while telling about the virtues of PC's. You seem as much as "fanboy" to me as some Mac-zealot is.
Then it is comparable to anything else also sufficient for the job.
To some people, a 300 bucks netbook would be sufficient for the job. But that still does not mean that it's a comparable machine to MBP.
I'd argue the opposite, that the $599 Dell is likely to be more pleasant to use for most people.
Go right ahead and make that claim.
Few people really want 13" laptops.
Your source for that claim is.... what? They seem to be buying computers with 10" screen, they are buying computers with 15" screen... why not 13" screens as well?
OK, I did. My price came to $974. And for that price I got
- Intel GMA 4500HD - No backlit keyboard (didn't even let me choose one)
Other specs were more or less similar (battery on the Dell is 85Whr vs. 73Whr on the MBP, however).
So I got a laptop that is made from plastic, no magsafe, no backlit-keyboard, crappy GPU, is heavier (the model with smaller battery is already heavier than the MBP (2.515kg vs. 2.49kg), is bigger in every way (thicker, wider, taller)... And still no OS X.
So it costs 750 bucks less. But it's quite apparent that you also get a crappier machine. It's in no shape of form comparable to the MBP. Color me unimpressed.
And yes I actually do know the quality because I recently bought one.
The fact that you bought one is no indication that the machine is of high quality.
I noticed that you didn't provide any links to the machine you specced. You also didn't even bother to mention the model... And again: are you really so retarded that you think that you can determine the quality of a computer by starting at a bunch of specs on screen?
How is Palm supposed to compete with Apple when they have a pretty good monopoly on online music sales?
Apple does not have monopoly in music-sales. And I fail to see the point even if they did. The music purchased from iTunes can be used in other mdeiamanagers just fine, and they could therefore be synced to third-party devices as well.
A I see the Apple Fanboy Army has shown up to defend their God.
you are still being a retard. Your utter hatred for Apple is showing, and it's clouding your judgement.
The point here, which you choose to ignore in your blind devotion to all things Jobs, is that Apple is using its Dominant (monoploy) position with the iTunes store to enforce the use of iTunes software.
You can buy your music through iTunes, and you can then use those purchased songs in some other mediamanager. You are in no shape or form forced to use iTunes.
Of course the actual purchase is done in iTunes. But by same logic I could complain that I have to go to amazon.com, if I want to buy from their online-sotre.... If you don't want to use iTunes, feel free to use some other online-store then. There's plenty to choose from.
But hey, that same stooge army has mod points, and anything on slashdot critical of apple will be modded into oblivion in short order.
Maybe they are modded down because they are stupid?
The only people who spout that line are Apple fanboys.
Icebike, you are being a retard. Stop it.
Abuse of dominant market position is the issue here.
How is Apple "abusing" their market-position?
Allowing you to purchase in the store, but preventing you from syncing the music or playing it on your choice of devices is an attempt to use their dominant market position in one industry to achieve dominance in another industry.
You can sync your iTunes-library to other devices if you want to. You can also buy your music from some other store, and play it back on an iPod (or whatever you want to use). Again: stop being a retard. You are in no shape or form tied to iTunes.
All there is is Apple treating some of their customers like second rate citizens.
All there is the fact that Palm is either too lazy or too incompetent (or both) to write their own sync-software that syncs the users iTunes-library to their device. That is what everyone else does, but apparently that is too much to ask from Palm.
Or they will have to document, license and publish the protocol to purchase from the iTunes store.
What does purchasing music have to do with this? Why couldn't the user buy their music from some other store instead? What matters here is whether it's possible to sync the users library to third-party device. Yes, it is possible.
Its just a matter of time.
You can not hold 70% share and still claim you are exempt from regulation because you have not yet achieved perfect monopoly.
I honestly see no monopoly here. The barrier of entry is low, there are plenty of alternatives (both hardware and software).... Where is the monopoly? How is Apple abusing their supposed "monopoly"?
If Microsoft is a monopoly based upon its market penetration, then so too is the iStore.
What is "iStore"? And to put things in to perspective: Microsoft has over 90% market-share. iPods have about 75% market-share. ITunes Music Store is the biggest single music retailer, but it's not dominant. If we look at downloads only, I believe that it's market-share is about 80%. But there's no real barrier of entry here. Doesn't music downloaded from Amazon automatically go to users iTunes-library? And you could take your music from iTunes and move it to some other library or device if you wanted to.
Compared to operating-systems, there is real competition in the player-market and online music-stores. Yes, Apple is the biggest in both of them, but they do not have a lock-in that stops users from using some other device or service instead.
No, its not a horrible analogy. It very very accurate.
You object to the word borrowed. I'll substitute the word "Stolen".
Oh STFU already. How exactly are they "stealing" anything if the software was given to them for free? They are following the requirements of the license, and the authors of the software in question have not complained. So what exactly is the problem here?
Bullshit. As the above 20 posters that have gotten +5 ratings have said iTunes will not sync with a non Apple product.
this isn't really that difficult people! We are talking about two different things here:
a) iTunes
b) iTunes-library
You are right: iTunes will not work with non-apple hardware (apart from ugly hacks like what Palm is doing here). But you CAN sync the iTunes-library to third-party devices! RIM does it, Microsoft does it, why can't Palm do it as well?
What's important here is that can you take the contents of users iTunes-library, and sync it to a third-party device. and the answer to that is YES. No, you can't use iTunes to do it, but you can write your own piece of software that takes users iTunes-library, and syncs it to your device.
Yeah Palm could write their own software that uses the library information but they can't use iTunes which is apparently what their customers are demanding.
Have they demanded it? I would guess that they would demand the ability to sync their iTunes-libraries to the Pre. I mean, that's what's important, as opposed to demanding that they must be able to do it with some specific app. The thing that is valuable to the user is the library, not iTunes.
Right now Palm.users are stuck with a solution that may or may not work, as opposed to having a solution that works all the time. The former is the hack Palm is using, the latter is a proper syncing-software for Pre.
However, if Microsoft is a monopoly because it costs infinitely more than Linux, what do you call OSX?
Microsoft is a monopoly because they control over 90% of the market. OS X is not a monopoly, since it's market-share is about 5-8%.
It's actually built more or less entirely from technologies which exist on Linux, although few of the ones we would identify as OSX features are as polished.
There's plenty of stuff in OS X which does not exist in Linux. Core Animation, Quartz, Aqua, consistent HIG, Time Machine, Automator, Grand Central Dispatch....
Then again, Linux (or indeed, *BSD) has scads of features not present in OSX, at the kernel level.
Too bad that users don't really get to benefit from those features. I use both Linux and OS X. And in everyday use, OS X beats Linux 100-0. Linux might have more robust kernel, but it just happens that the parts of the system users interacts with are crappy when compared to OS X.
And setting prices? You'll notice when MS announced the more capable Zune HD with a low -- possibly money-losing (or "dumping"?) price -- Apple promptly lowered prices on their new nano and iPod Touch.
So? If Apple was a monopoly, they could have increased their prices. But they can't since if they market themselves too high, people will buy a competing device instead.
So, are you arguing that Apple is a monopoly, because Apple lowered the price of their product in face of harder competition?
Oh yes, great advice. And those 15" only start at *seventeen hundred dollars.* Or about $1000 more than equivalent PC laptops cost, for the *exact same hardware.*
I call BS on that. Show me a $700 PC-laptop that is equivalent to $1700 MBP. Go ahead, I'm waiting. Or do you really think that laptops are nothing but collection of electronics, and that you can determine the quality of a laptop by staring at a bunch of specs? That if laptop A has more Mhz than laptop B, it must therefore be "better"?
I ran into the same problem. Basically the answer is "PCs are keyboard-driven, Macs are primarily mouse-driven."
I have always though the opposite. Now, I'm not all that good with keyboard-shortcuts, but there seems to be plenty of those in the Mac and you can do a lot with them.
There was no hostility present. Though it does bug me so much lately how foolish people can be, and how easily they are brainwashed by marketing.
And to refute some points:
Solid block of aluminum: useless to a computer
It's "useless" to have a sturdy computer? Um, OK....
Synaptics touchpad: use a thinkpad trackpoint, and get back to me.
Does not support gestures: fail
Illuminated keyboard: most if not all laptops have this option
Show me one, because I have never seen a PC-laptop with a backlit keyboard. I think Thinkpads have the "thinklight" at the top of the screen, but even there the keyboard is not backlit.
Power adapter: I have not once, in the entire 10 years of using laptops, have carelessly ripped out a power cord
I look over about 40 laptops, and in the last 1.5 years I have had at least two cases where the laptop has been broken because someone tripped on a powercord. And how is a standard powerplug better than magsafe? Isn't magsafe a nice thing to have in any case?
*Decent battery life*: except that it was actually tested recently, and Macs *don't* get more than 3-4 hours (the new ones, with a promised 7-8 hour charge);
Well, Anandtech said "The Best Battery Life Iâ(TM)ve Ever Seen" when testing the new MBP's: here
get yourself a nice battery (see with PC's you have an option) that could last you 8-10 hours.
And have a heavy laptop with a bulging battery. Sounds like fun!
Lithium polymer batteries: again, worthless since macs don't get the 7 hour charge they promise. Though with PCs you can.
In the Anandtech-test, they got over eight hours in real-life use....
Please don't waste any more time spreading bullshit, OK? You only make yourself look like a drooling retard.
1. Not true. Apple is not any gunning at M$ as they have zero enterprise software. All their glamour is on home desktop only.
From Wikipedia:
"From the early 2000s, Final Cut Pro developed a large and expanding user base including many independent filmmakers. It has made inroads with film and television editors who traditionally use Avid Technology's Media Composer. According to a 2007 SCRI study, Final Cut made up 49% of the US professional editing market, with Avid at 22%."
Logic is also very popular among musicians, large share of Photoshop-users use the software on a Mac, Macs are very popular among professional photographers, large part of graphics design is done on Macs... Yeah, home desktops only.
Pray tell: what exactly is this "enterprise software" that is missing on a Mac?
Apple has a government sanctioned monopoly on OS X.
So, you are basically complaining about the fact that Apple has a monopoly ON THEIR OWN PRODUCT? Do you also complain because Adobe has a monopoly on Photoshop? Or that Microsoft has a monopoly on Xbox?
That's the whole point; Apple specifically blocks the free market PC hardware ecosystem.
Apple is part of free market, and their products compete in a free market. Their product has some differentiating features that their competitors lack (like OS X). Why is that a problem? Should all products be identical? Why exactly should Apple be forced to license their software to others?
Microsoft has chosen a business-strategy where they license their software to just about everyone. And PC-OEMs have chosen to license their OS from a third-party (usually Microsoft). Does that mean that everyone should adopt similar strategy? No. Apple has chosen to develop their own OS that only ships with their own hardware. That's their choice.
I stand correctly. The devs that Macs are good for are Mac devs and Unix devs who have money to blow on overpriced hardware
What makes Macs "overpriced"? Are you one of those people who think that value of a computer can be determined by staring at a bunch of specs that are listed on a piece of paper?
The Mac has the same hardware that every other manufacturer uses. There's nothing "better tested" about it
Computers are more than just random collection of electronics.
and I don't buy that their "engineering" is better.
Huh? Have you ever tried to compare a Mac to a PC? I have a Lenovo T61 at work, which is considered best-of-breed PC-laptop there is. And it's a good machine. But it's still plastic. It still creaks. It doesn't feel as solid as my non-unibody-MBP at home (the unibody-MBP's feel like solid slab of metal).
Hell, how about doing a simple test: can you open the lid of your laptop with one hand? I have noticed that most PC-laptops are so unbalanced that you need two hands to oppen the lid: one to open the lid, the other to hold the base down. On a Mac, I can do that with one hand. Sure, things like that might not be important, but it tells about dedication to details.
Or how about powercables? I have seen several PC-laptops at work that have broken down when someone tripped on the powercord. That does not happen on a Mac.
Or why PC-laptops still don't have backlit-keyboards?
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So you are saying that there is no free market at all? I mean, only Lenovo can sell Thinkpads, so therefore they are not part of free market, right?
Your arguments are dumb and retarded,
You argued that Apple was subject to a free market, and I pointed out that they are not.
Um, yes they are. Or do you think that every product that has some unique feature is not subject to free market? Xbox 360 has many unique features when compared to PS3, and vice versa. Yet the two are clearly competing with each other.
Macs are obviously competing with computers offered by companies like Dell, HP and so forth. To claim that they are not, is utterly retarded.
You are still being the retard who thinks that quality of a computer can be determined by staring at a bunch of specs. You still get bigger and heavier computer with inferior design and OS. Do you also buy your cars by staring at their specs online?
Ever use a ThinkPad?
I'm typing this on a Thinkpad T61.
Nice and sturdy.
Not as sturdy as my MBP back home.
So for that one, you fail.
Nope
Gestures are great. Trackpoints are better.
Some people like trackpoints, other do not. And trackpoints dont support gestures.
But if for whatever reason you enjoy using it, PC manufactures do offer the software. Fail again.
Show me as extensive use of gestures as Apple offers in latest MacBooks.
Backlit keyboard. Dell Studio 15. Took me all of about 30 seconds to find it. Rough man. Fail.
at least Dell.com didn't let me configure a Studio 15 with backlit keyboard. And is that the only PC-laptop with backlit keyboard?
MagSafe: won't argue its nice to have, but not a necessity. 2 cases out of 40 as you yourself said.
2 cases where the laptop broke down and had to be replaced. With Magsafe, there would have been zero such cases. And replacing those computers cost quite a bit of money in lost productivity.
Battery life. I'm not even wasting any more time going to check out your article, because obviously you are hell-bent on having sex with Apple computers.
I take that as an admission of defeat. When you are presented with facts, you just take your ball and go home.
And no, I have no desire to have sex with a computer, Apple or otherwise. Calling your BS BS does not mean that I have sexual fetishes about computer hardware.
arguing with a fanboy just doesn't work.
What makes me a "fanboy" while you are not? You seem to spend a lot of time bashing Macs while telling about the virtues of PC's. You seem as much as "fanboy" to me as some Mac-zealot is.
Then it is comparable to anything else also sufficient for the job.
To some people, a 300 bucks netbook would be sufficient for the job. But that still does not mean that it's a comparable machine to MBP.
I'd argue the opposite, that the $599 Dell is likely to be more pleasant to use for most people.
Go right ahead and make that claim.
Few people really want 13" laptops.
Your source for that claim is.... what? They seem to be buying computers with 10" screen, they are buying computers with 15" screen... why not 13" screens as well?
Go price it yourself, right now.
OK, I did. My price came to $974. And for that price I got
- Intel GMA 4500HD
- No backlit keyboard (didn't even let me choose one)
Other specs were more or less similar (battery on the Dell is 85Whr vs. 73Whr on the MBP, however).
So I got a laptop that is made from plastic, no magsafe, no backlit-keyboard, crappy GPU, is heavier (the model with smaller battery is already heavier than the MBP (2.515kg vs. 2.49kg), is bigger in every way (thicker, wider, taller)... And still no OS X.
So it costs 750 bucks less. But it's quite apparent that you also get a crappier machine. It's in no shape of form comparable to the MBP. Color me unimpressed.
And yes I actually do know the quality because I recently bought one.
The fact that you bought one is no indication that the machine is of high quality.
I noticed that you didn't provide any links to the machine you specced. You also didn't even bother to mention the model... And again: are you really so retarded that you think that you can determine the quality of a computer by starting at a bunch of specs on screen?
How is Palm supposed to compete with Apple when they have a pretty good monopoly on online music sales?
Apple does not have monopoly in music-sales. And I fail to see the point even if they did. The music purchased from iTunes can be used in other mdeiamanagers just fine, and they could therefore be synced to third-party devices as well.
A I see the Apple Fanboy Army has shown up to defend their God.
you are still being a retard. Your utter hatred for Apple is showing, and it's clouding your judgement.
The point here, which you choose to ignore in your blind devotion to all things Jobs, is that Apple is using its Dominant (monoploy) position with the iTunes store to enforce the use of iTunes software.
You can buy your music through iTunes, and you can then use those purchased songs in some other mediamanager. You are in no shape or form forced to use iTunes.
Of course the actual purchase is done in iTunes. But by same logic I could complain that I have to go to amazon.com, if I want to buy from their online-sotre.... If you don't want to use iTunes, feel free to use some other online-store then. There's plenty to choose from.
But hey, that same stooge army has mod points, and anything on slashdot critical of apple will be modded into oblivion in short order.
Maybe they are modded down because they are stupid?
Apple will sell music to anyone, in a standard non DRM format too.
Only if they run Apple software.
The same software that is a portal for their dominant market position also has syncing capabilities, but will only sync with iPod's.
But the user is free to
a) buy his music from some other store
b) buy his music from ITMS, and sync that music to his third-party device, using third-party software.
You are in no shape or form required to buy music only from ITMS. But if you do, you are not forced to use iTunes to sync that music to your device.
Oh, stop with that Apple is not a monopoly issue.
The only people who spout that line are Apple fanboys.
Icebike, you are being a retard. Stop it.
Abuse of dominant market position is the issue here.
How is Apple "abusing" their market-position?
Allowing you to purchase in the store, but preventing you from syncing the music or playing it on your choice of devices is an attempt to use their dominant market position in one industry to achieve dominance in another industry.
You can sync your iTunes-library to other devices if you want to. You can also buy your music from some other store, and play it back on an iPod (or whatever you want to use). Again: stop being a retard. You are in no shape or form tied to iTunes.
All there is is Apple treating some of their customers like second rate citizens.
All there is the fact that Palm is either too lazy or too incompetent (or both) to write their own sync-software that syncs the users iTunes-library to their device. That is what everyone else does, but apparently that is too much to ask from Palm.
Or they will have to document, license and publish the protocol to purchase from the iTunes store.
What does purchasing music have to do with this? Why couldn't the user buy their music from some other store instead? What matters here is whether it's possible to sync the users library to third-party device. Yes, it is possible.
Its just a matter of time.
You can not hold 70% share and still claim you are exempt from regulation because you have not yet achieved perfect monopoly.
I honestly see no monopoly here. The barrier of entry is low, there are plenty of alternatives (both hardware and software).... Where is the monopoly? How is Apple abusing their supposed "monopoly"?
If Microsoft is a monopoly based upon its market penetration, then so too is the iStore.
What is "iStore"? And to put things in to perspective: Microsoft has over 90% market-share. iPods have about 75% market-share. ITunes Music Store is the biggest single music retailer, but it's not dominant. If we look at downloads only, I believe that it's market-share is about 80%. But there's no real barrier of entry here. Doesn't music downloaded from Amazon automatically go to users iTunes-library? And you could take your music from iTunes and move it to some other library or device if you wanted to.
Compared to operating-systems, there is real competition in the player-market and online music-stores. Yes, Apple is the biggest in both of them, but they do not have a lock-in that stops users from using some other device or service instead.
No, its not a horrible analogy. It very very accurate.
You object to the word borrowed. I'll substitute the word "Stolen".
Oh STFU already. How exactly are they "stealing" anything if the software was given to them for free? They are following the requirements of the license, and the authors of the software in question have not complained. So what exactly is the problem here?
Bullshit. As the above 20 posters that have gotten +5 ratings have said iTunes will not sync with a non Apple product.
this isn't really that difficult people! We are talking about two different things here:
a) iTunes
b) iTunes-library
You are right: iTunes will not work with non-apple hardware (apart from ugly hacks like what Palm is doing here). But you CAN sync the iTunes-library to third-party devices! RIM does it, Microsoft does it, why can't Palm do it as well?
What's important here is that can you take the contents of users iTunes-library, and sync it to a third-party device. and the answer to that is YES. No, you can't use iTunes to do it, but you can write your own piece of software that takes users iTunes-library, and syncs it to your device.
Yeah Palm could write their own software that uses the library information but they can't use iTunes which is apparently what their customers are demanding.
Have they demanded it? I would guess that they would demand the ability to sync their iTunes-libraries to the Pre. I mean, that's what's important, as opposed to demanding that they must be able to do it with some specific app. The thing that is valuable to the user is the library, not iTunes.
Right now Palm.users are stuck with a solution that may or may not work, as opposed to having a solution that works all the time. The former is the hack Palm is using, the latter is a proper syncing-software for Pre.
However, if Microsoft is a monopoly because it costs infinitely more than Linux, what do you call OSX?
Microsoft is a monopoly because they control over 90% of the market. OS X is not a monopoly, since it's market-share is about 5-8%.
It's actually built more or less entirely from technologies which exist on Linux, although few of the ones we would identify as OSX features are as polished.
There's plenty of stuff in OS X which does not exist in Linux. Core Animation, Quartz, Aqua, consistent HIG, Time Machine, Automator, Grand Central Dispatch....
Then again, Linux (or indeed, *BSD) has scads of features not present in OSX, at the kernel level.
Too bad that users don't really get to benefit from those features. I use both Linux and OS X. And in everyday use, OS X beats Linux 100-0. Linux might have more robust kernel, but it just happens that the parts of the system users interacts with are crappy when compared to OS X.
And setting prices? You'll notice when MS announced the more capable Zune HD with a low -- possibly money-losing (or "dumping"?) price -- Apple promptly lowered prices on their new nano and iPod Touch.
So? If Apple was a monopoly, they could have increased their prices. But they can't since if they market themselves too high, people will buy a competing device instead.
So, are you arguing that Apple is a monopoly, because Apple lowered the price of their product in face of harder competition?
Oh yes, great advice. And those 15" only start at *seventeen hundred dollars.* Or about $1000 more than equivalent PC laptops cost, for the *exact same hardware.*
I call BS on that. Show me a $700 PC-laptop that is equivalent to $1700 MBP. Go ahead, I'm waiting. Or do you really think that laptops are nothing but collection of electronics, and that you can determine the quality of a laptop by staring at a bunch of specs? That if laptop A has more Mhz than laptop B, it must therefore be "better"?
Just picked up a Thinkpad T400 and it is nothing short of amazing. Advantages over the macbooks:
* Matte screen w/ WXGA+ LED backlight (new Macbook Pros are all glossy)
You can get the 15" and 17" MBP with either glossy or matte screen.
I ran into the same problem. Basically the answer is "PCs are keyboard-driven, Macs are primarily mouse-driven."
I have always though the opposite. Now, I'm not all that good with keyboard-shortcuts, but there seems to be plenty of those in the Mac and you can do a lot with them.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343
There was no hostility present. Though it does bug me so much lately how foolish people can be, and how easily they are brainwashed by marketing.
And to refute some points:
Solid block of aluminum: useless to a computer
It's "useless" to have a sturdy computer? Um, OK....
Synaptics touchpad: use a thinkpad trackpoint, and get back to me.
Does not support gestures: fail
Illuminated keyboard: most if not all laptops have this option
Show me one, because I have never seen a PC-laptop with a backlit keyboard. I think Thinkpads have the "thinklight" at the top of the screen, but even there the keyboard is not backlit.
Power adapter: I have not once, in the entire 10 years of using laptops, have carelessly ripped out a power cord
I look over about 40 laptops, and in the last 1.5 years I have had at least two cases where the laptop has been broken because someone tripped on a powercord. And how is a standard powerplug better than magsafe? Isn't magsafe a nice thing to have in any case?
*Decent battery life*: except that it was actually tested recently, and Macs *don't* get more than 3-4 hours (the new ones, with a promised 7-8 hour charge);
Well, Anandtech said "The Best Battery Life Iâ(TM)ve Ever Seen" when testing the new MBP's: here
get yourself a nice battery (see with PC's you have an option) that could last you 8-10 hours.
And have a heavy laptop with a bulging battery. Sounds like fun!
Lithium polymer batteries: again, worthless since macs don't get the 7 hour charge they promise. Though with PCs you can.
In the Anandtech-test, they got over eight hours in real-life use....
Please don't waste any more time spreading bullshit, OK? You only make yourself look like a drooling retard.
1. Not true. Apple is not any gunning at M$ as they have zero enterprise software. All their glamour is on home desktop only.
From Wikipedia:
"From the early 2000s, Final Cut Pro developed a large and expanding user base including many independent filmmakers. It has made inroads with film and television editors who traditionally use Avid Technology's Media Composer. According to a 2007 SCRI study, Final Cut made up 49% of the US professional editing market, with Avid at 22%."
Logic is also very popular among musicians, large share of Photoshop-users use the software on a Mac, Macs are very popular among professional photographers, large part of graphics design is done on Macs... Yeah, home desktops only.
Pray tell: what exactly is this "enterprise software" that is missing on a Mac?
Apple has a government sanctioned monopoly on OS X.
So, you are basically complaining about the fact that Apple has a monopoly ON THEIR OWN PRODUCT? Do you also complain because Adobe has a monopoly on Photoshop? Or that Microsoft has a monopoly on Xbox?
That's the whole point; Apple specifically blocks the free market PC hardware ecosystem.
Apple is part of free market, and their products compete in a free market. Their product has some differentiating features that their competitors lack (like OS X). Why is that a problem? Should all products be identical? Why exactly should Apple be forced to license their software to others?
Microsoft has chosen a business-strategy where they license their software to just about everyone. And PC-OEMs have chosen to license their OS from a third-party (usually Microsoft). Does that mean that everyone should adopt similar strategy? No. Apple has chosen to develop their own OS that only ships with their own hardware. That's their choice.
*gags* Give me my vanilla XFCE UI any day. That annoying little app bar on Macs
Why is it annoying to have the menubar in a predictable place that adheres to Fitts law?
having to quit the app through the menu bar
You can also quit with a keyboard-shortcut....
(can't just click the little close button like the rest of the world, eh?)
Why should closing the app-window also close the app?
I stand correctly. The devs that Macs are good for are Mac devs and Unix devs who have money to blow on overpriced hardware
What makes Macs "overpriced"? Are you one of those people who think that value of a computer can be determined by staring at a bunch of specs that are listed on a piece of paper?
The Mac has the same hardware that every other manufacturer uses. There's nothing "better tested" about it
Computers are more than just random collection of electronics.
and I don't buy that their "engineering" is better.
Huh? Have you ever tried to compare a Mac to a PC? I have a Lenovo T61 at work, which is considered best-of-breed PC-laptop there is. And it's a good machine. But it's still plastic. It still creaks. It doesn't feel as solid as my non-unibody-MBP at home (the unibody-MBP's feel like solid slab of metal).
Hell, how about doing a simple test: can you open the lid of your laptop with one hand? I have noticed that most PC-laptops are so unbalanced that you need two hands to oppen the lid: one to open the lid, the other to hold the base down. On a Mac, I can do that with one hand. Sure, things like that might not be important, but it tells about dedication to details.
Or how about powercables? I have seen several PC-laptops at work that have broken down when someone tripped on the powercord. That does not happen on a Mac.
Or why PC-laptops still don't have backlit-keyboards?