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P2sam:
A few points:
1. You can't read.
2. You don't comprehend what you do manage to squeeze through your peepers.
3. Your intelligence is being dwarfed by your ignorance.
4. Just where the hell in my post did I say "there's nothing wrong with killing hundreds of thousands of civilians"????
5. Re read #2.
6. Here it is again...try to get it right this time: IF the US had invaded "Mainland" Japan (just Honshu, not counting Kyushu, Shikoku or Hokkido), the estimated CIVILIAN JAPANESE Casualties was in EXCESS of 3,000,000...some estimates put it closer to 5,000,000. The reason for this is the Japanese people were willing to fight to the last man / woman / child for their god/Emperor (yes...they believed their Emperor to be a god). The Kamakazi's were prime examples of this fanatisism. So...what was the greater evil? Killing 195,000 civilians and ending the war quickly or killing 5,000,000 civilians and drag it out another year+?? Add to these numbers the number of American Casualties...the added deaths of the invasion of the rest of the Japanese Islands (Kyushu, Shikoku or Hokkido). How many deaths then?? How many dealths would have been okay? How many can you justify?
7. War is hell...and personally, I've been in one (Gulf War) and would rather there never be war. But there are limits to this wish. I would rather have a war to defend my and your freedom than to roll over and loose them. Can you say the same? Or are you one of those "Peace at at cost" kind of person??
8. Maybe we should have invaded...maybe one of your ancestors would have been killed in the invasion and you wouldn't be hear showing off your lack of education.
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I think you've been reading too many revisionist history books. If we hadn't bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the A-Bomb, we would have had to invade Mainland Japan. The ESTIMATED American Casualties was over 1,000,000 and the estimated Japanese casualties was over 3,000,000. It was also projected that the war would continue for ANOTHER YEAR without them. So, was it worth 195,000 lives to save 4,000,000?? I'd say that was a fair trade. Especially since my father was sitting on a transport ready for the invasion.
As to bombing of population centers...did you ever read history?? The japanese manufacturing was done in small "Momma-San" factories that were in the civilian's houses. Whole families were assembling guns and aircraft parts in their living rooms. Weapons that were killing our soldiers. Did that make them military targets or civilian targets?? If they made weapons...or parts for weapons...they were military targets.
So...do I think we did the right thing?? Hell yes!! Would I condone it again?? Hell yes!!
Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and stop reading that revisionist history crap. Whoever is writing this crap wants our children to think that we were the bad guys. That there is no justification for dropping the bomb...that we were somehow "Evil" for dropping them. It's all hogwash. We did what we had to do to end the war. Period!
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P2sam:
A few points:
1. You can't read.
2. You don't comprehend what you do manage to squeeze through your peepers.
3. Your intelligence is being dwarfed by your ignorance.
4. Just where the hell in my post did I say "there's nothing wrong with killing hundreds of thousands of civilians"????
5. Re read #2.
6. Here it is again...try to get it right this time: IF the US had invaded "Mainland" Japan (just Honshu, not counting Kyushu, Shikoku or Hokkido), the estimated CIVILIAN JAPANESE Casualties was in EXCESS of 3,000,000...some estimates put it closer to 5,000,000. The reason for this is the Japanese people were willing to fight to the last man / woman / child for their god/Emperor (yes...they believed their Emperor to be a god). The Kamakazi's were prime examples of this fanatisism. So...what was the greater evil? Killing 195,000 civilians and ending the war quickly or killing 5,000,000 civilians and drag it out another year+?? Add to these numbers the number of American Casualties...the added deaths of the invasion of the rest of the Japanese Islands (Kyushu, Shikoku or Hokkido). How many deaths then?? How many dealths would have been okay? How many can you justify?
7. War is hell...and personally, I've been in one (Gulf War) and would rather there never be war. But there are limits to this wish. I would rather have a war to defend my and your freedom than to roll over and loose them. Can you say the same? Or are you one of those "Peace at at cost" kind of person??
8. Maybe we should have invaded...maybe one of your ancestors would have been killed in the invasion and you wouldn't be hear showing off your lack of education.
I think you've been reading too many revisionist history books. If we hadn't bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the A-Bomb, we would have had to invade Mainland Japan. The ESTIMATED American Casualties was over 1,000,000 and the estimated Japanese casualties was over 3,000,000. It was also projected that the war would continue for ANOTHER YEAR without them. So, was it worth 195,000 lives to save 4,000,000?? I'd say that was a fair trade. Especially since my father was sitting on a transport ready for the invasion. As to bombing of population centers...did you ever read history?? The japanese manufacturing was done in small "Momma-San" factories that were in the civilian's houses. Whole families were assembling guns and aircraft parts in their living rooms. Weapons that were killing our soldiers. Did that make them military targets or civilian targets?? If they made weapons...or parts for weapons...they were military targets. So...do I think we did the right thing?? Hell yes!! Would I condone it again?? Hell yes!! Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and stop reading that revisionist history crap. Whoever is writing this crap wants our children to think that we were the bad guys. That there is no justification for dropping the bomb...that we were somehow "Evil" for dropping them. It's all hogwash. We did what we had to do to end the war. Period!