start by banning ACs I would have argued with you before trying to moderate. ACs seem like a way to be inclusive and bring in fresh and new ideas. Yet I was astounded at what I saw at -1. The waste. Most definitely less than uplifting.
We are a representative democracy. We are a democratic republic. People do vote (to elect leaders.) It would perhaps be more accurate to say: "Our republic practices representative democracy, with ballot petitions thrown in for flavoring." Democrat & Republican are orthoganal terms. Democracy and Republic are not mutually exclusive.
Perhaps I am naive. I was under the impression that the DOD (like the DOT, IRS, etc...) was and always(?) has been a part of the executive branch. No "emergency" is necessary for the president to be the commander-in-chief. Yes?
The question of who will watch the watchers is ancient. I think congressional control of cashflow is limited by an agency's control of info flow.
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Is it against our law to intercept another countries transmissions? Do we have a treaty that specifies against such behavior? It might be unsavory but methinks its not *illegal*.
A. Einstein: "The words or the language, as they are written or spoken, donot seem to play any role in my mechanism of thought. The psychical entities which seem to serve as elements in thought are certain signs and more or less clear images which can be 'voluntarily' reproduced and combined... this combinatory play seems to be the essential feature in productive thought before there is any connection with logical construction in words or other kinds of signs which can be communicated to others".
But its not about "building a wall". One considers the concept: partion, barrier, wall. Then one realizes that a wall could include shelving! What about a fireplace? How far away the fireplace need be. Brick? Multi-colored brick? Perhaps solid colored brick but N-colors? Do we want to consider room acustics? Will the color of the partion impact the emotional and or intellectual state of the people living/loving/working there? Is then the design of a spacial-partion / human interface art?
Recommends: Godel, Escher, Bach: the eternal golden braid. Maybe your world should be opened up a bit (or at least your definitions). I don't think that painting a house *has* to be art. I suggest it most often is *not* art. But Quantum Mechanics *is* high art, as is Relativity. Comparable to Bach? Can you compare music to painting to sculpture? Does that mean sculpture is not art?
They don't understand science very well either. The process of building a model is art. It involves inuition and induction and pattern recognition at a (usually) visual non-verbal level. It is *not* about deducing from the last stage what the next stage is or we'd have more theoreticians. Breakthroughs would be planned.
If I say "you are clueless" I am not a poet. It is not art. Yet it is an opinion and it is expression. Hence: expression need not be art to be protected.
Although QED has superceeded Maxwell's equations I still suggest that (despite the UV catastrophe of black body radiation, and the "spiraling" in of an electron) Maxwell's electrodynamics is *art*. The interplay of the differential equations *is* poetry. It is *good* art. It is beautiful.:-)
It ceases to be "speech" when it ceases to be part of communication. If we are discussing a binary data stream and I chalk a subroutine on the board that is definitely speech. If you say NT is the only 32bit OS, and I hand you slackware source code, then that is free speech. Most importantly, if we discussing FFT and DSP, and you chalk up a routine, that is speech. Be it C, assembly, or binary (though few talk binary these days).
If I want to prevent anybody but you from reading something
And you *sell* it to me! And I can't read it because you put it in an envelope and glued it shut... I can't open the seal on the material you *sold* to me. The "offense" is the audacity of sealing it. This won't stop copying DVDs. The security is a *use* security. If I illegally copy the DVD I have not even activated any security. Hence I haven't broached anything. So this can't be about adding an extra offense to copyright violation because it doesn't apply to the act of copying the copyrighted material.
Hey now! Those car door locks and windows aren't just copy-righted, they are patented! You are "reverse engineering" and using the car in a manner for which it wasn't intended! Consider the artists (i consider engineers artists, though some do science in reality): their work's integrity has been adulterated.
Software and Mathematics both should be protected under the first amendment. Just because I express myself in a language that uses "real" and systematic rules instead of grammer is no reason to exclude me. I am still describing a process (just in precise, accurate detail) and my description deserves freedom of speech protection. Else how long until I can't legal even *think* about crypto? What if someone copyrighted "plus" and "minus"? Use to be that one had to join a guild to use screws...make your own screws (for your own use) and the king's soldiers would have your ass. We've come along way, lets not slip back!
Wow! Sounds great but: I have admin access on our Physics' dept NT machines. Thought to do a run around (hehe). Unfortunately NT doesn't have a "reboot into DOS" mode. Also: even after setting floopy to be active at boot time the system went straight to the NT OS installer (options: NT or NT VGA). hmmm... I might have to opt for VMware (student discount around $99).
So then it would appear that the only course for a good citizen is to act to legislate the bottleneck out of exsistence. How do we do this? Petitions? Boycotts? Letters to Congress? Legal defense funds? Volunteer time to the ACLU?
The fundemental principles of copyright do not anywhere claim that it's a right for creators to make money. It's not. The point is for works to promote the arts and sciences, chiefly by there being very many works which are in the public domain and are totally free for anyone to copy and use at will. In order to achieve this, Congress may permit authors and inventors short-lived and limited monopolies on their works and inventions.
Methinks its about a ballance: promoting (maximizing) the public good while doing the least necessary for the artist to allow the artist to continue generating. The original intention was that copyrights would be short term. If you wanted to be cutting edge you bought it new. Else you'd wait for the expiration of said copyright and get it for *free*.
Ah...those were the days! Actually Dover Reprints are today more similar to the intent of copyright: they reprint math and science books that have fallen out of print at amazing prices.
It is a choice to purchase an item in a free market: purchase grants property rights. The balance between intellectual property rights and physical property rights are encoded into law (including precedent law). To suggest that my rights are merely privilidges is the beginning of hostility. I am offended.
For a phone call you want to digitize your audio first, scramble, then send that down the phone line. On the other end they descramble, pipe to DAC, amplify and listen. Just like that you have secure voice.
"In the past, so-called "pen registers" or "trap and trace" wiretaps produced lists of telephone numbers of people who had called suspects. But they now can be applied to the collection of e-mail or IP addresses that are available to investigators armed with just a subpoena. "
Beware to whom you send email! Else you too could end up on a list! (What if I email someone who is on the list because they emailed someone who emailed someone on the list?)
Aren't they installing first? The court order is involved to put someone's name on the list...not to install carnivore at the ISP. (Or did I misunderstand?)
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start by banning ACs I would have argued with you before trying to moderate. ACs seem like a way to be inclusive and bring in fresh and new ideas. Yet I was astounded at what I saw at -1. The waste. Most definitely less than uplifting.
We are a representative democracy. We are a democratic republic. People do vote (to elect leaders.) It would perhaps be more accurate to say: "Our republic practices representative democracy, with ballot petitions thrown in for flavoring."
Democrat & Republican are orthoganal terms. Democracy and Republic are not mutually exclusive.
Perhaps I am naive. I was under the impression that the DOD (like the DOT, IRS, etc...) was and always(?) has been a part of the executive branch. No "emergency" is necessary for the president to be the commander-in-chief. Yes?
The question of who will watch the watchers is ancient. I think congressional control of cashflow is limited by an agency's control of info flow.
Is it against our law to intercept another countries transmissions? Do we have a treaty that specifies against such behavior? It might be unsavory but methinks its not *illegal*.
A. Einstein: "The words or the language, as they are written or spoken, donot seem to play any role in my mechanism of thought. The psychical entities which seem to serve as elements in thought are certain signs and more or less clear images which can be 'voluntarily' reproduced and combined ... this combinatory play seems to be the essential feature in productive thought before there is any connection with logical construction in words or other kinds of signs which can be communicated to others".
But its not about "building a wall". One considers the concept: partion, barrier, wall. Then one realizes that a wall could include shelving! What about a fireplace? How far away the fireplace need be. Brick? Multi-colored brick? Perhaps solid colored brick but N-colors? Do we want to consider room acustics? Will the color of the partion impact the emotional and or intellectual state of the people living/loving/working there? Is then the design of a spacial-partion / human interface art?
Recommends: Godel, Escher, Bach: the eternal golden braid.
Maybe your world should be opened up a bit (or at least your definitions). I don't think that painting a house *has* to be art. I suggest it most often is *not* art. But Quantum Mechanics *is* high art, as is Relativity.
Comparable to Bach? Can you compare music to painting to sculpture? Does that mean sculpture is not art?
They don't understand science very well either. The process of building a model is art. It involves inuition and induction and pattern recognition at a (usually) visual non-verbal level. It is *not* about deducing from the last stage what the next stage is or we'd have more theoreticians. Breakthroughs would be planned.
If I say "you are clueless" I am not a poet. It is not art. Yet it is an opinion and it is expression.
:-)
Hence: expression need not be art to be protected.
Although QED has superceeded Maxwell's equations I still suggest that (despite the UV catastrophe of black body radiation, and the "spiraling" in of an electron) Maxwell's electrodynamics is *art*. The interplay of the differential equations *is* poetry. It is *good* art. It is beautiful.
It ceases to be "speech" when it ceases to be part of communication. If we are discussing a binary data stream and I chalk a subroutine on the board that is definitely speech. If you say NT is the only 32bit OS, and I hand you slackware source code, then that is free speech.
Most importantly, if we discussing FFT and DSP, and you chalk up a routine, that is speech. Be it C, assembly, or binary (though few talk binary these days).
If I want to prevent anybody but you from reading something
And you *sell* it to me!
And I can't read it because you put it in an envelope and glued it shut...
I can't open the seal on the material you *sold* to me.
The "offense" is the audacity of sealing it. This won't stop copying DVDs. The security is a *use* security. If I illegally copy the DVD I have not even activated any security. Hence I haven't broached anything. So this can't be about adding an extra offense to copyright violation because it doesn't apply to the act of copying the copyrighted material.
Hey now! Those car door locks and windows aren't just copy-righted, they are patented! You are "reverse engineering" and using the car in a manner for which it wasn't intended! Consider the artists (i consider engineers artists, though some do science in reality): their work's integrity has been adulterated.
Software and Mathematics both should be protected under the first amendment. Just because I express myself in a language that uses "real" and systematic rules instead of grammer is no reason to exclude me. I am still describing a process (just in precise, accurate detail) and my description deserves freedom of speech protection.
Else how long until I can't legal even *think* about crypto? What if someone copyrighted "plus" and "minus"? Use to be that one had to join a guild to use screws...make your own screws (for your own use) and the king's soldiers would have your ass.
We've come along way, lets not slip back!
SGI sees Linux as their future low end, but Irix will continue to be offered for multi-processor (e.g., 16-512 CPU Origin) and their ilk.
Wow! Sounds great but: I have admin access on our Physics' dept NT machines. Thought to do a run around (hehe). Unfortunately NT doesn't have a "reboot into DOS" mode. Also: even after setting floopy to be active at boot time the system went straight to the NT OS installer (options: NT or NT VGA). hmmm... I might have to opt for VMware (student discount around $99).
Comparing DVD copy protection to racism
is as dishonest
as comparing intellectual property rights
to one man's sip of water.
So then it would appear that the only course for a good citizen is to act to legislate the bottleneck out of exsistence. How do we do this? Petitions? Boycotts? Letters to Congress? Legal defense funds? Volunteer time to the ACLU?
The fundemental principles of copyright do not anywhere claim that it's a right for creators to make money. It's not. The point is for works to promote the arts and sciences, chiefly by there being very many works which are in the public domain and are totally free for anyone to copy and use at will. In order to achieve this, Congress may permit authors and inventors short-lived and limited monopolies on their works and inventions.
Methinks its about a ballance: promoting (maximizing) the public good while doing the least necessary for the artist to allow the artist to continue generating. The original intention was that copyrights would be short term. If you wanted to be cutting edge you bought it new. Else you'd wait for the expiration of said copyright and get it for *free*.
Ah...those were the days! Actually Dover Reprints are today more similar to the intent of copyright: they reprint math and science books that have fallen out of print at amazing prices.
I don't buy DVD discs or drives. I'm not going to either...
Bravo! I too refuse entry into a sullied swimming pool.
It is a choice to purchase an item in a free market: purchase grants property rights. The balance between intellectual property rights and physical property rights are encoded into law (including precedent law). To suggest that my rights are merely privilidges is the beginning of hostility. I am offended.
For a phone call you want to digitize your audio first, scramble, then send that down the phone line. On the other end they descramble, pipe to DAC, amplify and listen. Just like that you have secure voice.
"All Carnivore installations are done "in close cooperation" with ISPs, Berry said, but the FBI collects the data itself."
Define "close cooperation".
"In the past, so-called "pen registers" or "trap and trace" wiretaps produced lists of telephone numbers of people who had called suspects. But they now can be applied to the collection of e-mail or IP addresses that are available to investigators armed with just a subpoena. "
Beware to whom you send email! Else you too could end up on a list! (What if I email someone who is on the list because they emailed someone who emailed someone on the list?)
Aren't they installing first? The court order is involved to put someone's name on the list...not to install carnivore at the ISP. (Or did I misunderstand?)