It's hard to take someone's comments seriously when they display such an obvious lack of spelling and grammar. Or are we supposed to be doing this naked? That's an M-Rating for sure.
You are making it very hard to take your comment seriously, Mr. Holier Than Thou.
Sorry, I misread your post and took uploading as in Bittorrent uploading, as seems to be the "buzz" these days.
No biggie, I meant that if it were a rental, we'd have to return it, so we'd download it, watch it, and re-upload it back to them. We don't: It's not a rental.:)
There are something like 345 DVDs on my shelves at home and it would not, in a million years, occur to me to actually watch one...
Wow, I don't know if I should call you a consumer whore or if I should try to convince you to send them to me. There must like, 12-20 good ones in there.
I have fewer DVDs, but I only buy movies I know are worth seeing more than once. Full Metal Jacket, Gattaca, stuff that's, you know, good.
Has anyone maybe considered that maybe this isn't an experiment for testing telepathy, but maybe is a psych study on something else? I mean, wouldn't this kinda taint the group by telling them that they are trying to do telepathy. I think its just a cover for some other expermint.
I thought about it, but I don't thik that's what's going on. No scientist would do something like that... That reminds me, I hope no one catches me surfing slashdot on this microcomputer... I'm not supposed to use it for anything else than my repetitive data entry assignement.
as outragious as spending tax money to research "intelligent design"?
It might be worth it, if only for the lack of proof that would result. Might shut up a few fundies... On the other hand, maybe we were engineered by aliens to serve as a slave race, and it would be frikkin well-spent money if we found that out. Proof of alien life and all:)
I think Lucas misspelled it and called it 'midichlorians' or some pap like that...
He just technobabled it up a bit to cover up the fact that his lame ass, pseudoscientific, fuck up retcon of an explanation of the mystical Force was a 100% rip-off of yet another japanese movie (and its videogame sequel which you might be more familiar with).
I said it before and I'll say it again: Lucas never invented ANYTHING, he simply recycles other people's ideas and repackages them. Very postmodern of him.
Today we know there isn't any mechanism for that. We may not know everything there is to know about the human body, but we do know more than we did two centuries ago.
Know?
Two hundred years ago they knew more than two hundred years before that, and they still thought that meteorites were impossible, that the human body couldn't survive speeds upwards of 30 miles an hour (ah!), that the city of Troy never existed in the first place, and so forth. You do NOT know that telepathy is impossible, you know that repeated attemps have failed and that there is no solid reason to believe it can work. But you believe it is impossible based on lack of results, you do not know.
The fundamental law of nature that will not allow any communications without a physical channel is the theory of information.
And the transmission of a weak but complex electromagnetic pattern created from one brain and interpreted by another has no physical channel? That's one hypothesis of telepathy, bub.
P.S. Not that I believe it per se, but I'm far, very far from having proof that all claims of telepathy are fakes. Science relies of reproducing something at will, and some human performances cannot be reproduced at will, and therefore elude the scientific process. Claiming that one's inability to measure something proves that this something does not exist is hubris: Your methodology and instruments might need revising.
The difference between Apple and Microsoft is that Microsoft is more successful. Both companies love proprietary software and DRM. Both companies screw over their customers.
Let's see, one company is pushing for it's DRM, arguing that it offers the most restrictions available, and the other is pushing the *AAs for less restrictions, arguing that the DRM they want is both impossible and undesirable.
Why would it have to be faked everytime? The point of faking it is that the U.S. had to be there first, that was the point: To win the race.
Why go back for real once the race is won with a fake? Why, so people would assume that since it was done for real later on, then obviously the first time was for real too (horrible logic, but a common assumption).
P.S. Like I said, not that I believe I could prove it either way. But I have this sinking feeling it wasn't all on the up and up.
Car analogy, fascinating. Now, exlain how the hell that relates to what I said. Though you might have to -read- what I said, this time.
P.S. Ooooh, a condescending tone followed by an assumption that I'm uneducated. Someone has issues he feels will be helped with some anonymous passive-afressive behaviour!
Ah, "junk" in biology. There was a piece of the brain that was once thought of as "junk", or "filler", until it was removed by a zealous neurosurgeon during an operation in that region of the brain of his patient. The patient unexpectedly lost the ability to learn new things (as in Memento)... Now we know. The pancreas was once though to serve simply as a support structure for the more obvious organs... Beware the tendency of the very litterate to dismiss that which they do not understand, it's simple hubris.
My not-supported-by-resasearch-of-any-kind take on "junk" DNA? I think it's stored evolution. DNA that isn't expressed, but stored in a way that it can mutate for generations and generations before being randomly reactivated, cueing natural selection. That would result in a simple mutation (only the reactivation of a chunk of stored DNA) with not-so-simple results from generations of stored changes.
the extreme difficulty of digitizing some parts of the collection (like a 16-ton statue, for example).
Er, you take plenty of digital pictures, you make a 3D model in AutoCAD or something, and you provide detailed descriptions of the material used and the creation process in.txt files?
This way, if you lose the statue, you have all you need to recreate a perfect copy. Hell, I bet there's a machine somewhere that will take the autocad model and build you a plastic replica from it. Then it's off to the moulders for the brass treatment and we're back with a 16 ton statue.
What these conspiracy theorists always forget is that we placed beacons on the moon which we "ping" with lasers constantly.
First of all, most "conspiracy theorists" aren't so much forgetfull as they are ignorant. Secondly, no one seems to be denying that the Russians had landed robots on the moon before July 1969. It's not that it is impossible to do so, beacons could be sent there with rockets. The big question is, was it possible to send and retrieve humans in this way, at that time.
Occam's razor here is, what is the easiest way to achieve the propaganda of a manned Lunar landing? Actually doing it, or faking it?
Personally, I still wonder. Of course, since there's a lot of noise in the info on that subject (loud nutjobs), I don't particularly want to investigate this, but I don't think that it was more impossible to fake than it was to accomplish. Both would be quite hard, but the resulting propaganda would be worth it either way.
Why should you have a right to impose your will this way after you've already accepted money from the media's new owner?
Because they own the media: The disc. I own the content of the disc.
Copyright grants ME the right to derivative works, in order to further the arts. Creating and selling derivatives of my work is a big no-no. A whitewashed version of my gritty story is a derivative work, and I have a right to refuse this in my lifetime. These are my rights as an author.
If they don't like my art, they don't have to see it. There's a whole ratings board in place to let them know that there's stuff in it they won't like, it's not like they're being forced to watch it, or conned into watching it.
Sorry, all I'm seeing are movie companies trying to assert ownership of the physical media after the point of first sale.
There might be some of that, true. But distributing derivative works was one of the things that copyright was created to prevent. This isn't the MPAA pushing for new, hideous powers, this is the original intent of copyright being upheld, and that's a good thing.
The point is, one company can't take someone else's work, mess around with it, and resell it (until the copyright limit expires). The DVD thingy what gets to skip the naughty bits is iffy, but legal. That I don't mind, nor do the courts. Hence, there is a way for prudes to be protected from t3h 3vil nipples.
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Maybe the current generation of TV viewers deserves something original
They deserve a swift kick in the groin, is what they deserve.
Gorram sports and "reality"-TV watching maroons... Why in my day [we apologise for the curmodgeon, your regularly scheduled thread will now resume]
Pointing out the difference between "bare" and "bear" is our solemn duty as thinking humans.
Truly, else the bear threat would but increase, exponentially!
It's hard to take someone's comments seriously when they display such an obvious lack of spelling and grammar.
Or are we supposed to be doing this naked? That's an M-Rating for sure.
You are making it very hard to take your comment seriously, Mr. Holier Than Thou.
Sorry, I misread your post and took uploading as in Bittorrent uploading, as seems to be the "buzz" these days.
:)
No biggie, I meant that if it were a rental, we'd have to return it, so we'd download it, watch it, and re-upload it back to them.
We don't: It's not a rental.
There are something like 345 DVDs on my shelves at home and it would not, in a million years, occur to me to actually watch one...
Wow, I don't know if I should call you a consumer whore or if I should try to convince you to send them to me. There must like, 12-20 good ones in there.
I have fewer DVDs, but I only buy movies I know are worth seeing more than once. Full Metal Jacket, Gattaca, stuff that's, you know, good.
Microsoft is the pusher.
Apple, however:
At what point did anyone say that iTunes was going to use peer to peer transfers?
I said nothing about P2P.
Has anyone maybe considered that maybe this isn't an experiment for testing telepathy, but maybe is a psych study on something else? I mean, wouldn't this kinda taint the group by telling them that they are trying to do telepathy. I think its just a cover for some other expermint.
I thought about it, but I don't thik that's what's going on. No scientist would do something like that...
That reminds me, I hope no one catches me surfing slashdot on this microcomputer... I'm not supposed to use it for anything else than my repetitive data entry assignement.
as outragious as spending tax money to research "intelligent design"?
:)
It might be worth it, if only for the lack of proof that would result. Might shut up a few fundies...
On the other hand, maybe we were engineered by aliens to serve as a slave race, and it would be frikkin well-spent money if we found that out. Proof of alien life and all
Thus far, any time psychic powers of any kind are tested under proper scientific conditions, it is found to be nothing
;-)
But I swear that, before you looked, the cat was both alive and dead!
I think Lucas misspelled it and called it 'midichlorians' or some pap like that...
He just technobabled it up a bit to cover up the fact that his lame ass, pseudoscientific, fuck up retcon of an explanation of the mystical Force was a 100% rip-off of yet another japanese movie (and its videogame sequel which you might be more familiar with).
I said it before and I'll say it again: Lucas never invented ANYTHING, he simply recycles other people's ideas and repackages them. Very postmodern of him.
Today we know there isn't any mechanism for that. We may not know everything there is to know about the human body, but we do know more than we did two centuries ago.
Know?
Two hundred years ago they knew more than two hundred years before that, and they still thought that meteorites were impossible, that the human body couldn't survive speeds upwards of 30 miles an hour (ah!), that the city of Troy never existed in the first place, and so forth.
You do NOT know that telepathy is impossible, you know that repeated attemps have failed and that there is no solid reason to believe it can work. But you believe it is impossible based on lack of results, you do not know.
The fundamental law of nature that will not allow any communications without a physical channel is the theory of information.
And the transmission of a weak but complex electromagnetic pattern created from one brain and interpreted by another has no physical channel? That's one hypothesis of telepathy, bub.
P.S. Not that I believe it per se, but I'm far, very far from having proof that all claims of telepathy are fakes. Science relies of reproducing something at will, and some human performances cannot be reproduced at will, and therefore elude the scientific process. Claiming that one's inability to measure something proves that this something does not exist is hubris: Your methodology and instruments might need revising.
You need to be tech savvy to understand the concept of renting?
/. guy, at what rate will I be uploading the file back to them so they can have it back and rent it to someone else?
I understand the concept of renting: When I'm done with it, I give the item back to the renter.
So, tell me, tech savy
The difference between Apple and Microsoft is that Microsoft is more successful. Both companies love proprietary software and DRM. Both companies screw over their customers.
Let's see, one company is pushing for it's DRM, arguing that it offers the most restrictions available, and the other is pushing the *AAs for less restrictions, arguing that the DRM they want is both impossible and undesirable.
Yep: The same. Exactly, to a "t".
And terrorists are certainly a foreign power.
Come again?
They were looking for arabs before he got caught for a traffic violation, you know...
But why fake it five times?
Why would it have to be faked everytime?
The point of faking it is that the U.S. had to be there first, that was the point: To win the race.
Why go back for real once the race is won with a fake? Why, so people would assume that since it was done for real later on, then obviously the first time was for real too (horrible logic, but a common assumption).
P.S. Like I said, not that I believe I could prove it either way. But I have this sinking feeling it wasn't all on the up and up.
Car analogy, fascinating.
Now, exlain how the hell that relates to what I said.
Though you might have to -read- what I said, this time.
P.S. Ooooh, a condescending tone followed by an assumption that I'm uneducated. Someone has issues he feels will be helped with some anonymous passive-afressive behaviour!
Ah, "junk" in biology.
There was a piece of the brain that was once thought of as "junk", or "filler", until it was removed by a zealous neurosurgeon during an operation in that region of the brain of his patient. The patient unexpectedly lost the ability to learn new things (as in Memento)... Now we know.
The pancreas was once though to serve simply as a support structure for the more obvious organs...
Beware the tendency of the very litterate to dismiss that which they do not understand, it's simple hubris.
My not-supported-by-resasearch-of-any-kind take on "junk" DNA?
I think it's stored evolution.
DNA that isn't expressed, but stored in a way that it can mutate for generations and generations before being randomly reactivated, cueing natural selection. That would result in a simple mutation (only the reactivation of a chunk of stored DNA) with not-so-simple results from generations of stored changes.
I'm going on to so a PhD in socialolgy
Good luck with that! I always say whe don't have enough socialolgues around.
Why, just the other day I saw an amateur attempt to socialolgise, and I had to tell him flat out: "You fail it!", he could never go on to so a PhD.
the extreme difficulty of digitizing some parts of the collection (like a 16-ton statue, for example).
.txt files?
Er, you take plenty of digital pictures, you make a 3D model in AutoCAD or something, and you provide detailed descriptions of the material used and the creation process in
This way, if you lose the statue, you have all you need to recreate a perfect copy. Hell, I bet there's a machine somewhere that will take the autocad model and build you a plastic replica from it. Then it's off to the moulders for the brass treatment and we're back with a 16 ton statue.
But they're already nuts. That's why they're conspiracy theorists.
Everyone is nuts; Normal people simply share the same kind of crazy.
What these conspiracy theorists always forget is that we placed beacons on the moon which we "ping" with lasers constantly.
First of all, most "conspiracy theorists" aren't so much forgetfull as they are ignorant.
Secondly, no one seems to be denying that the Russians had landed robots on the moon before July 1969. It's not that it is impossible to do so, beacons could be sent there with rockets. The big question is, was it possible to send and retrieve humans in this way, at that time.
Occam's razor here is, what is the easiest way to achieve the propaganda of a manned Lunar landing? Actually doing it, or faking it?
Personally, I still wonder. Of course, since there's a lot of noise in the info on that subject (loud nutjobs), I don't particularly want to investigate this, but I don't think that it was more impossible to fake than it was to accomplish. Both would be quite hard, but the resulting propaganda would be worth it either way.
This is /. Water implies showers and the outdoors...
Does sweat count?
Why should you have a right to impose your will this way after you've already accepted money from the media's new owner?
Because they own the media: The disc. I own the content of the disc.
Copyright grants ME the right to derivative works, in order to further the arts. Creating and selling derivatives of my work is a big no-no. A whitewashed version of my gritty story is a derivative work, and I have a right to refuse this in my lifetime. These are my rights as an author.
If they don't like my art, they don't have to see it. There's a whole ratings board in place to let them know that there's stuff in it they won't like, it's not like they're being forced to watch it, or conned into watching it.
Sorry, all I'm seeing are movie companies trying to assert ownership of the physical media after the point of first sale.
There might be some of that, true. But distributing derivative works was one of the things that copyright was created to prevent. This isn't the MPAA pushing for new, hideous powers, this is the original intent of copyright being upheld, and that's a good thing.
The point is, one company can't take someone else's work, mess around with it, and resell it (until the copyright limit expires).
The DVD thingy what gets to skip the naughty bits is iffy, but legal. That I don't mind, nor do the courts. Hence, there is a way for prudes to be protected from t3h 3vil nipples.