when the final episode airs, television will never be the same again.
This is just about the most ridiculous thing I've seen on Slashdot in a very long time. If one were to poll the public on this subject, I'm quite sure a substantial number of people wouldn't have ever heard of the SciFi channel to begin with, let alone have a clue that there's some obscure show called BSG on there or be able to remotely describe what the show is about. Nor would they give a flying rat's ass. The Sopranos, now that's a show that had a measurable impact on TV. Regardless of the quality of the show, BSG is going to fade right back into the obscurity from whence it came, with only mom's-basement-dwelling geeks remembering the first thing about it.
You could have said the same thing of the original Star Trek, and you'd have been just as wrong.
Is it just me or is "wind farm" a misnomer? I always thought of "farm" as production. "Wind farm" makes it sound like they're producing wind. Which is obviously hogwash. Producing electricity, sure, but they didn't call it an "electricity farm."
dirt farm
-noun a tract of land on which a dirt farmer works.
I wonder, given that we had two bombs that we were pretty sure would work, if we had dropped the first just off Tokyo (ok, not "just", but within sight, but far enough away to spare most of the population) on a lightly populated island or something, if Japan would have surrendered, or was destroying a city or two necessary?
If the message was only meant for Tokyo, it might have worked. But the message was to the whole world: Fear us.
detaining people that may pose a terrorist threat or have information about a possible terrorist threat
Is a fiction.
Ok, sorry, still not getting what you are saying [...] I have no idea how safe Guantanamo Bay is keeping us because that information is classified, so anything said about it is speculation
So why do you give any credit to the speculation that the people detained therein pose a threat or have information about threats? Because you trust the people who made that speculation. But those same people have lied to you countless times, I gave you plenty of examples of their lies, I gave you historical references of this pattern of behavior so that you might have the possibility of emotional detachment from the subject... to no avail.
After the terrorist attack on the twin towers, building debris and dust contained asbestos, lead, glass fibers, and concrete dust. However, the White House Council on Environmental Quality urged the EPA to âoeadd reassuring statements and delete cautionary onesâ in its press release.
As a matter of fact, many first responders suffered almost immediate health problems, developing what officials and doctors dubbed "The World Trade Center Cough". One study showed that more than 85% of those who initially responded to the tragedy were suffering from some sort of respiratory ailment within just months (or even weeks) of the collapse.
Deborah Reeve was the first 9/11 emergency responder to die of mesothelioma. She worked as a paramedic for the Fire Department of New York. Reeve began having symptoms of severe lung disease in early 2003 and was diagnosed with the asbestos-caused cancer in 2004. She succumbed to the disease in March 2006. Doctors agree that her exposure to asbestos was a result of her days spent working at the recovery site.
But the interesting part to me here is not that you were ignorant of that. It's that you told me that asbestos in walls in safe, when I was clearly talking about the dust resulting from the spectacular disintegration of a series of buildings.
P.S. In August 2002, a Gallup poll found 53% saying they believed "Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11 attacks";
Some human ships are filled with normal humans, others (same training and organization) are filled with bloodthirsty sadists with no regard for the lives of others (Pegasus).
The Stanford prison experiment was a study of the psychological effects of becoming a prisoner or prison guard. The experiment was conducted in 1971 by a team of researchers led by Psychology Professor Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University. Twenty-four undergraduates were selected out of 70 to play the roles of both guards and prisoners and live in a mock prison in the basement of the Stanford psychology building. Those selected were chosen for their lack of psychological issues, crime history, and medical disabilities, in order to obtain a representative sample. Roles were assigned based on a coin toss.[1]
Prisoners and guards rapidly adapted to their roles, stepping beyond the boundaries of what had been predicted and leading to dangerous and psychologically damaging situations. One-third of the guards were judged to have exhibited "genuine" sadistic tendencies, while many prisoners were emotionally traumatized and two had to be removed from the experiment early.
It's just not the same show that it started out as.
It started with cylons who "have a plan". It turned into cylons who have idea WTF they're doing. They're blowing each other up, having threeways with Baltar, etc.
I loved that show, but it's been headed downhill (the artificial splitting up of season 4 made things worse, the delay made me stop caring about the characters)
everyone in BSG has the necessary personality traits to keep even the smallest of secrets. That's realistic?
Everyone passed a space-military test to see that they were fit to fight an enemy with superior information technology. These aren't random people off the street.
with the example of Baltar's situation. He screwed up, but he didn't screw up badly. By withholding the information, he managed to ensure
that he wouldn't be immediately thrown out of the nearest airlock for treason, and therefore his survival.
He didn't screw up badly? Causing the END OF CIVILIZATION because he gave military secrets in exchange for sex is not a bad screw up? Would he have to cause he death of more than the entire population of 12 planets for it to be a big screw up?
Don't forget about the projected Japanese death toll in the event of a land invasion.
Don't forget that the japs had been negotiating a surrender with the Russians for about a year before someone chose to murder hundreds of thousands of civilians to obtain an unconditional surrender to the US.
Take Baltar as an example. By keeping his involvement with the destruction of the colonies a secret, he's basically accepting responsibility for his actions.
By keeping his action a secret he's ESCAPING responsibility for his actions. Quite. Literally.
the only legal way to get a new copy of the original soundtrack [...] buying the collector's edition dvd and extracting the soundtrack
I'm pretty sure that the in the USA, it's illegal to do that because of the anti-circumvention clause of the DMCA. And elsewhere, the US has been pushing for that to become law (it's one of the strings attached when the US gives emergency aid in case of natural disaster, IIRC).
If you (the music labels) want to cut down on illegal music downloads
They are actively campaigning to make more music downloads illegal. It's control they want, to make sure that the money you have to spend on music goes into THEIR pocket.
I'm with the Judge on this one! Even when I first started downloading music on Napster, I often wanted to get a better perspective of a particular musician or group before purchasing CDs or going to a concert. There are a lot of artists out there whose music I enjoy that I would not have if I had not downloaded their music.
You're not with the judge, the judge thinks there's little incentive to buy a song you have downloaded for free. You and I know the opposite is true: We are most likely to buy a CD from an artist we have downloaded than one we have not.
Man, that blurb couldn't have been more paranoid-delusional
Speaking of delusional: RTFA. It's not paranoia when people are actually out to get you.
What next, you gonna call the Secret Service or the Vatican paranoid-delusional for parading their bosses in bullet-proof vehicles? As if anyone would ever shoot at them! Fools, huh?
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The term FUD is usually used to describe vague fearmongering that has no real basis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
You have a feeling about the meaning of FUD that is not factually warranted.
when the final episode airs, television will never be the same again.
This is just about the most ridiculous thing I've seen on Slashdot in a very long time. If one were to poll the public on this subject, I'm quite sure a substantial number of people wouldn't have ever heard of the SciFi channel to begin with, let alone have a clue that there's some obscure show called BSG on there or be able to remotely describe what the show is about. Nor would they give a flying rat's ass. The Sopranos, now that's a show that had a measurable impact on TV. Regardless of the quality of the show, BSG is going to fade right back into the obscurity from whence it came, with only mom's-basement-dwelling geeks remembering the first thing about it.
You could have said the same thing of the original Star Trek, and you'd have been just as wrong.
The suicide bombings in Iraq don't target the U.S. military. It targets the Iraqi police, the Iraqi army, and the Iraqi people.
The suicide bombings in BSG didn't target the Cylon Centurions. It targeted Colonial police under Cylon rule.
just sayin'
Is it just me or is "wind farm" a misnomer? I always thought of "farm" as production. "Wind farm" makes it sound like they're producing wind. Which is obviously hogwash. Producing electricity, sure, but they didn't call it an "electricity farm."
dirt farm
-noun
a tract of land on which a dirt farmer works.
All the kids that later died of cancer makes them special as hell.
So you don't care about the starvation, disease, death, maimings, destruction and other side effects of war?
So you think none of those were caused by nuclear weapons?
Notice how you claim that I don't care about "death" in reply to my comment about deaths. Quite the reasonable argument you're building there...
I wonder, given that we had two bombs that we were pretty sure would work, if we had dropped the first just off Tokyo (ok, not "just", but within sight, but far enough away to spare most of the population) on a lightly populated island or something, if Japan would have surrendered, or was destroying a city or two necessary?
If the message was only meant for Tokyo, it might have worked.
But the message was to the whole world: Fear us.
He's escaping being held responsible, but he's personally admitting to himself that he's responsible.
No, he's not. Not even under torture, with full use of psychotropic drugs, he kept denying it was his fault.
Don't forget that the Russians were not at war with Japan at that time.
Which is probably why Japan wanted to surrender to them.
detaining people that may pose a terrorist threat or have information about a possible terrorist threat
Is a fiction.
Ok, sorry, still not getting what you are saying [...] I have no idea how safe Guantanamo Bay is keeping us because that information is classified, so anything said about it is speculation
So why do you give any credit to the speculation that the people detained therein pose a threat or have information about threats?
Because you trust the people who made that speculation.
But those same people have lied to you countless times, I gave you plenty of examples of their lies, I gave you historical references of this pattern of behavior so that you might have the possibility of emotional detachment from the subject... to no avail.
After the terrorist attack on the twin towers, building debris and dust contained asbestos, lead, glass fibers, and concrete dust. However, the White House Council on Environmental Quality urged the EPA to âoeadd reassuring statements and delete cautionary onesâ in its press release.
As a matter of fact, many first responders suffered almost immediate health problems, developing what officials and doctors dubbed "The World Trade Center Cough". One study showed that more than 85% of those who initially responded to the tragedy were suffering from some sort of respiratory ailment within just months (or even weeks) of the collapse.
Deborah Reeve was the first 9/11 emergency responder to die of mesothelioma. She worked as a paramedic for the Fire Department of New York. Reeve began having symptoms of severe lung disease in early 2003 and was diagnosed with the asbestos-caused cancer in 2004. She succumbed to the disease in March 2006. Doctors agree that her exposure to asbestos was a result of her days spent working at the recovery site.
But the interesting part to me here is not that you were ignorant of that.
It's that you told me that asbestos in walls in safe, when I was clearly talking about the dust resulting from the spectacular disintegration of a series of buildings.
P.S. In August 2002, a Gallup poll found 53% saying they believed "Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11 attacks";
The story is filled with astroturfers, lobbyists and others spending millions to manufacture FUD about privacy and monopoly
How is it FUD?
Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt: What you fear they might do, maybe.
Is there anything concrete that you can point do that google has done that is terrible, or only thing they MIGHT do?
Some human ships are filled with normal humans, others (same training and organization) are filled with bloodthirsty sadists with no regard for the lives of others (Pegasus).
The Stanford prison experiment was a study of the psychological effects of becoming a prisoner or prison guard. The experiment was conducted in 1971 by a team of researchers led by Psychology Professor Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University. Twenty-four undergraduates were selected out of 70 to play the roles of both guards and prisoners and live in a mock prison in the basement of the Stanford psychology building. Those selected were chosen for their lack of psychological issues, crime history, and medical disabilities, in order to obtain a representative sample. Roles were assigned based on a coin toss.[1]
Prisoners and guards rapidly adapted to their roles, stepping beyond the boundaries of what had been predicted and leading to dangerous and psychologically damaging situations. One-third of the guards were judged to have exhibited "genuine" sadistic tendencies, while many prisoners were emotionally traumatized and two had to be removed from the experiment early.
Poor product placements.
Product placement is when a commercial product is placed in a show.
This was a poor choice of commercial break, not a part of the show itself.
It's just not the same show that it started out as.
It started with cylons who "have a plan".
It turned into cylons who have idea WTF they're doing. They're blowing each other up, having threeways with Baltar, etc.
I loved that show, but it's been headed downhill (the artificial splitting up of season 4 made things worse, the delay made me stop caring about the characters)
everyone in BSG has the necessary personality traits to keep even the smallest of secrets. That's realistic?
Everyone passed a space-military test to see that they were fit to fight an enemy with superior information technology.
These aren't random people off the street.
with the example of Baltar's situation. He screwed up, but he didn't screw up badly. By withholding the information, he managed to ensure
that he wouldn't be immediately thrown out of the nearest airlock for treason, and therefore his survival.
He didn't screw up badly? Causing the END OF CIVILIZATION because he gave military secrets in exchange for sex is not a bad screw up?
Would he have to cause he death of more than the entire population of 12 planets for it to be a big screw up?
FAR more people were killed with conventional bombing on both sides during WWII than by nukes and yet the nukes are somehow special?
You're deliberately ignoring the fact that FAR, FAR more conventional bombs were dropped than nukes. We're talking several orders of magnitude here.
The ratio makes them quite special.
All the kids that later died of cancer makes them special as hell.
Don't forget about the projected Japanese death toll in the event of a land invasion.
Don't forget that the japs had been negotiating a surrender with the Russians for about a year before someone chose to murder hundreds of thousands of civilians to obtain an unconditional surrender to the US.
Take Baltar as an example. By keeping his involvement with the destruction of the colonies a secret, he's basically accepting responsibility for his actions.
By keeping his action a secret he's ESCAPING responsibility for his actions. Quite. Literally.
I'm pretty sure that the in the USA, it's illegal to do that because of the anti-circumvention clause of the DMCA.
That's bullshit, then.
Well, yes. That's what happen when entrenched businesses get to write the laws governing competing new technologies.
It's not a spaceship, it's a spacetime teleporter.
Indeed, but that's not how it is presented in the movie, hence all this posting activity.
the only legal way to get a new copy of the original soundtrack [...] buying the collector's edition dvd and extracting the soundtrack
I'm pretty sure that the in the USA, it's illegal to do that because of the anti-circumvention clause of the DMCA.
And elsewhere, the US has been pushing for that to become law (it's one of the strings attached when the US gives emergency aid in case of natural disaster, IIRC).
If you (the music labels) want to cut down on illegal music downloads
They are actively campaigning to make more music downloads illegal. It's control they want, to make sure that the money you have to spend on music goes into THEIR pocket.
put more money in the pocket of the actual artist than the record label.
That predictable outcome is why the record labels are pooling their money for a large campaign of propaganda and litigation/intimidation.
You guys are kidding yourselves if you think that one pirated song equals one lost sales.
I do not think they're kidding themselves; I think they're deliberately fooling others, for fun and profit.
I'm with the Judge on this one! Even when I first started downloading music on Napster, I often wanted to get a better perspective of a particular musician or group before purchasing CDs or going to a concert. There are a lot of artists out there whose music I enjoy that I would not have if I had not downloaded their music.
You're not with the judge, the judge thinks there's little incentive to buy a song you have downloaded for free. You and I know the opposite is true: We are most likely to buy a CD from an artist we have downloaded than one we have not.
they could sell or outsource every bit of it to third parties at will.
If they let an untrusted party access to their DB
Yes it is Fear Uncertainty & Doubt "even" if it's believable.
How would it scare you if there was no way you'd believe it?
Man, that blurb couldn't have been more paranoid-delusional
Speaking of delusional: RTFA.
It's not paranoia when people are actually out to get you.
What next, you gonna call the Secret Service or the Vatican paranoid-delusional for parading their bosses in bullet-proof vehicles? As if anyone would ever shoot at them! Fools, huh?