If your mail gets rejected by someplace using MAPS, you do get a message from MAPS saying that your mail was not accepted, and gives URLs to MAPS' site for more information. (check out http://mail-abuse.org - they have pages set up for this very reason.)
Also, it takes quite a bit to get MAPS to list an entire ISP, as opposed to just the particular IP# of that ISP's customer. The reason being is this sort of "collateral damage".
Unfortunatly, I've encountered places that don't really care, so long as they're making money.
So what do you do? You try to convince folks to leave the abusive ISP. Blocking a whole ISP is an attempt at doing this. The idea is to get the other (non-spamming) customers to take action by either 1: leaving the ISP, or 2: getting the ISP to fix its problem.
MAPS has had some real-world impact. Maybe not as large as you would like, but it's there.
Some ISPs have changed their operating procedures after being listed - booting their spamming customer, fixing their contracts to allow them to be more responsive WRT abuse, etc.
Other ISPs have made it clear they don't care if their customers spam.
Personally, I'd rather just drop the spam from sources that won't do anything about it, and concentrate on the places that *do* act on complaints.
This is what MAPS attempts to do.
In reality, the ISPs should be happy they ONLY end in the RBL...too many individual admins will toss an ISP's netspace into their deny filters, and forget about them. At least with MAPS, you have a way of getting out of the RBL.
I'm not about to plunk down $40 for the privelege of being a beta tester. I know all too well that computer programs are going to have bugs in them, but this is downright abusive.
Won't run for more than 2 minutes?
Rooms that you can't (ever) leave?
Quest objects that don't work properly?
These alone (and I'm sure there are others) would tell me this game is not ready for market.
I already test and crash computer programs at work. At least there, I'm the one being paid (as opposed to being the one paying for the privelege.) When I come home, I expect things to run at least reasonably well. I don't know who's idea it was to ship Anarchy Online in this state, but I sincerely hope they're taken out of future decisions. (if not taken out back and shot.)
Really, this sounds like it has the potential to eclipse "Battlecruiser 3000" as worst game ever released. If the company cared at all about their custom^H^H^H^H^H^Hbeta-testers, they'd have stores pull the product off their shelves, and send everyone who already purchased it the real, finished version - along with coupons for free online time as an apology.
You aren't, but the store in the mall leaves a bit to be desired...
I bought the first boxset online for $25 or so. They were selling the individual discs for $8.50. I suspect I'll see the discs locally for around $10-11.
Love it or hate it, Robotech was responsible for getting many people interested in anime, as Star Blazers had done before, and Akira later.
I know I wouldn't have gotten into anime as early had I not seen Robotech.
I wouldn't have been inspired to learn Japanese (and later, major in it) so I could watch other stuff.
I wouldn't have gone to Japan to further my studies.
I wouldn't have come up with that wacky idea to put the college anime club into the biggest auditorium on campus. The first time we tried that, we overflowed the auditorium...
And I certainly wouldn't have been offered half the jobs I've held (co-op and otherwise) where I have used my anime-inspired Japanese skills.
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If your mail gets rejected by someplace using MAPS, you do get a message from MAPS saying that your mail was not accepted, and gives URLs to MAPS' site for more information. (check out http://mail-abuse.org - they have pages set up for this very reason.)
Also, it takes quite a bit to get MAPS to list an entire ISP, as opposed to just the particular IP# of that ISP's customer. The reason being is this sort of "collateral damage".
Unfortunatly, I've encountered places that don't really care, so long as they're making money.
So what do you do? You try to convince folks to leave the abusive ISP. Blocking a whole ISP is an attempt at doing this. The idea is to get the other (non-spamming) customers to take action by either 1: leaving the ISP, or 2: getting the ISP to fix its problem.
MAPS has had some real-world impact. Maybe not as large as you would like, but it's there.
Some ISPs have changed their operating procedures after being listed - booting their spamming customer, fixing their contracts to allow them to be more responsive WRT abuse, etc.
Other ISPs have made it clear they don't care if their customers spam.
Personally, I'd rather just drop the spam from sources that won't do anything about it, and concentrate on the places that *do* act on complaints.
This is what MAPS attempts to do.
In reality, the ISPs should be happy they ONLY end in the RBL...too many individual admins will toss an ISP's netspace into their deny filters, and forget about them. At least with MAPS, you have a way of getting out of the RBL.
I'm sorry, but this doesn't jive with me.
I'm not about to plunk down $40 for the privelege of being a beta tester. I know all too well that computer programs are going to have bugs in them, but this is downright abusive.
Won't run for more than 2 minutes?
Rooms that you can't (ever) leave?
Quest objects that don't work properly?
These alone (and I'm sure there are others) would tell me this game is not ready for market.
I already test and crash computer programs at work. At least there, I'm the one being paid (as opposed to being the one paying for the privelege.) When I come home, I expect things to run at least reasonably well. I don't know who's idea it was to ship Anarchy Online in this state, but I sincerely hope they're taken out of future decisions. (if not taken out back and shot.)
Really, this sounds like it has the potential to eclipse "Battlecruiser 3000" as worst game ever released. If the company cared at all about their custom^H^H^H^H^H^Hbeta-testers, they'd have stores pull the product off their shelves, and send everyone who already purchased it the real, finished version - along with coupons for free online time as an apology.
You aren't, but the store in the mall leaves a bit to be desired...
I bought the first boxset online for $25 or so. They were selling the individual discs for $8.50. I suspect I'll see the discs locally for around $10-11.
Love it or hate it, Robotech was responsible for getting many people interested in anime, as Star Blazers had done before, and Akira later. I know I wouldn't have gotten into anime as early had I not seen Robotech. I wouldn't have been inspired to learn Japanese (and later, major in it) so I could watch other stuff. I wouldn't have gone to Japan to further my studies. I wouldn't have come up with that wacky idea to put the college anime club into the biggest auditorium on campus. The first time we tried that, we overflowed the auditorium... And I certainly wouldn't have been offered half the jobs I've held (co-op and otherwise) where I have used my anime-inspired Japanese skills.