For what it is worth, we Catholics do not believe it is a power of the priest that does this. It is Jesus doing it through the actions of the priest. Similarly, when a priest pronounces absolution after a person confesses his sins, its not the priest forgiving our sins, it is Jesus. This is done because we humans are physical beings as well as spiritual, and its good to have those sensory cues, like the priest pronouncing the words of consecration, and the words of absolution. It is so much more comforting to actually hear those words of forgiveness than to just assume them. This is also why we Catholics have the "smells and bells" in our liturgy. Our physical senses are to be used to experience the sacred.
"I don't watch Fox News, because I know Fox News is about sensationalist reporting designed to increase viewership with the end result of pushing an agenda."
Well, the coastal cities of the US are where all the liberals live. So why should we care about what happens there at all? Sounds like a useful bit of "urban renewal" to me.
Since you don't know what I'm using my system for, if I were you I would think again before calling me an idiot.
For the work that I do, I need that horsepower to have multiple VMs running simultaneously, running different OS's, all doing some serious compilations.
For that, you need the kind of machine I described. Now that can't be done using a standard laptop at all. But for going on the road, colinux would be nice to use on a smaller, lower power, standard laptop. Because why would I want to shell out a several hundred bucks for vmware just for that? Idiot...
There are a lot of laptops out there that aren't powerful enough to run linux on vmware on windows or windows on vmware on linux.
I wouldn't do it without a 3.0 Mhz system with 2 Gb of RAM, and at least a 40 Gb disk. I happen to have such a laptop, and I bought it especially for this purpose and paid lots of bucks for it. But my old 1.7 Ghz, 30 Gb, 256 Mb RAM Vaio R505 should be able to handle this...
The environmentalists are whining about it because it involves living people. Anything involving people who are actually alive is evil, don't you know that? This planet is a precious web of (non-human) life that is balanced on a knife's edge. If you sweat too much, or do anything that you might enjoy... well... the whole planet could explode.
"the episode where Enterprise exposes the Vulcan spy base to the Andorians. In later episodes, it is commented that that decision greatly increased tensions between the Vulcans and the Andorians, understandably. But the whole thing is played off (in fact I think T'Pol takes the Vulcan command to task on this) as it being the Vulcan's fault!"
Well, it *was* the Vulcan's fault. There were violating a treaty. They were wrong. And its something *the Vulcan's* should learn from... even if it has to be learned from us nasty, un-pc humans.
Sheesh... even truth and honesty have to give way to the sacred liberal cows of PC, relativism, anti-Americanism, and anti-humanism? Sorry, but that's just silly.
Besides... people can learn from their mistakes without going around in sackcloth and ashes moping about it. So the fact that the Enterprise crew doesn't come out and say, "Woe is us, we made a mistake", doesn't mean a thing. When I make a mistake I just suck it up and move on and try not to make it again. Being that unsubtle to pontificate on it would be lousy scriptwriting.
And, the fact that T'Pol took the Vulcans to task about the listening post and not the humans invalidates your whole point about that particular incident. The humans didn't throw it in their faces, even though they ought to have done so. Another Vulcan did. And the fact that the incident caused tensions with the Andorians was the Vulcans' fault.
And before T'Pol brought that incident up, Archer has just finished up a long speech about how humans were going to make mistakes, but they would learn from them.
It just amazes me at how many people today seem willing to, if they had the power, press a button and make humanity disappear. Of course, they'd prefer to press another button to make Americans disappear first, and then the rest of humanity.
GKC "Men do not differ much about what things they will call evils; they differ enormously about what evils they will call excusable."
-- G. K. Chesterton
During WWII an American GI came upon a Pacific Islander who was reading the Bible.
(I'm not trying to be pro-Christian here, although I am one. This is just what happened. Although for the point being made here, you could just as well substitute the Talmud, the Koran, the Baghavad Gita [sp?], or anything else.)
After talking with him awhile, the American GI told him that people in our country have left the need for such things behind. The island native said he was glad that his people did not have that attitude because otherwise he would be trying to cook and eat the GI right now.
At least that islander understood the uncomfortable truth that all cultures are not equal. Some cultures are better, in general, than others... just as some individuals are better than others. Its just reality... a fact. There are people who are better engineers than I am, and there are people who are worse. There are people who are more virtuous than I am, and there are those who aren't.
There are some cultures that aren't worth a bucket of warm spit. And there are some that are wonderful in various ways. I won't hide from the truth just because its not a warm fuzzy, touchy-feely, liberal, politically-correct truth.
I find it interesting that the Q and the Borg are held up as races to be looked up to. I sincerely hope its a joke that I missed due to the lack of body language inherent in a written post. I do not look up to any real or imagined culture that forcibly represses the individual and seeks to make it absolutely and totally subservient to a "collective", nor one that enslaves others, such as the Borg does. Nor do I look up to a culture that walks away from the universe, except for the odd member that comes back to torture the lesser advanced cultures as the Q does.
Human beings are imperfect, and nothing that they ever create will be perfect. So none of our cultures will ever be perfect, and American culture is certainly not perfect. However, it has a been a fairly good culture that shows a lot of ability to improve itself quickly. Our culture abolished slavery in less than 100 years since the foundation of the nation. Nearly all large cultures have had slavery at some time in their past. None have eliminated it as quickly nor as forcefully as ours has.
True, our culture has been in a bit of decline for the past 40 years, but I have great hope that we can recover before it becomes permanent. And I greatly suspect that the poster of the original comment would disagree with me on the evidence and reasons for the decline in our culture.;)
GKC "The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult and left untried." -- G. K. Chesterton
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Ah, but that brings us to the agendas of both organizations like the Washington Times and of FAIR.
Do I trust the source "Washington Times"? Or do I trust the source "FAIR"?
FAIR is not high on my list of "objective" organizations. Now maybe the Washington Times isn't either. But when you stack them up against the New York Times, LA Times and ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN/MSNBC, etc... well, I'll take a conservative editorial slant and exercise my judgement with it over the liberal slant from nearly every other news organization and groups like FAIR.
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Yes, I have sources. Here's one.
Published on April 23, 2002, The Washington Times Biologists' roles in lynx-hair fraud under review
You can go search their archives yourself, but you only the first paragraph or so of the article. To get the full article you have to pay a small fee.
All that's being done is replacing the previous administration's political hacks with the new administration's. Do you think anybody appointed by Clinton wasn't part of a political agenda? Do you think scientists are pure and virtuous if the left picks them, but not the ones the right picks?
In the last few years there have been a number of "government" scientists discovered planting evidence that "proves" endangered species existed in certain areas in order to prevent logging or housing development, etc. As far as I'm concerned, any scientist or engineer working for the government is either actively or unwittingly pursuing a political agenda. And the most conspicuosly egregious example of this has been the agenda of the leftist religion of environmentalism.
This ruling isn't taking on the "powers that be", its taking on the Clinton Justice Dept. Everything that's been ruled on is from the Clinton years. In fact, Judge Royce Lamberth, who just finished up as the presiding judge of that court praised Ashcroft and his Justice Dept. for cleaning up the mess and reforming the process.
I contacted Sharp--they had no plans for an X server as of two months ago. Even if there was one, as long as Qt/Embedded "owns" the screen, lots of nifty X11-based handheld software just won't port (input methods, window management, etc.).
Just because Sharp isn't producing it, doesn't mean it isn't out there.
Most servers run with only a text-mode console display, or they run entirely headless. Should we scrap them because its not X?
X11 can fully support text-only applications, as well as Qt-based applications. Qt/Embedded does not support X11-based applications. Get the difference?
Yes, but the lack of an X server doesn't make the whole Zaurus useless for those who don't have a need for an xserver. The average PDA user doesn't need or care about X. This is all assuming there is no X server...but there is.
This whole post just makes no sense.
Perhaps that's because I have developed handheld software and you haven't?
Sorry, but you're wrong yet again. I've been paid rather well for developing handheld software.
That's not true at all. First off, there is an xserver available for the Zaurus. Second, Qt/Embedded is just another layer of software dependencies. Ever try to run a KDE app on your desktop without Qt stuff installed? Ever try to run a GNOME app without the GTK?
Most servers run with only a text-mode console display, or they run entirely headless. Should we scrap them because its not X?
Agenda's problems had nothing to do with linux and its fitness or lack thereof for PDAs. It died because it was pushed out the door before it was done. They weren't done with the OS, they weren't done with apps, and they weren't done with the hardware. It was pushed out the door because of the financial difficulties of Agenda's parent company.
Actually, with the latest kernels and romdisks, the Agenda is a pretty nice device for the low end of the PDA spectrum But its not consumer-ready and probably never will be now. But it could've been. I use it as my everyday PDA currently. But I also have a Zaurus and will probably switch to it once I have a few spare cycles.
A bigger issue I have with Agenda is that I don't think the target market was a winner. I don't think the low end of the PDA spectrum is where a business wants to be. Its up at the high end with the iPAQs, Jornadas, and Zaurus where anything interesting and profitable would be happening.
You're right. I wasn't sufficiently clear. I'm not saying that government shouldn't buy software. I was saying that government shouldn't be in the business of promoting one business model over another, which wasn't necessarily your original point...but I know too many out there who would make it their point.:)
When government buys software they should buy the software that does the job they need to have done in the most cost-effective way possible. At this point in time, that's not always going to be open source or free software.
As for lobbyists...at best they are necessary evil. I'd prefer to stay away from them.:)
I don't watch Bill O'Reilly. The government set-up cable monopoly where I live unfortunately doesn't show Fox News.
What's so bad about the government HELPING PEOPLE??
Our government has source code, its called the constitution. In it there's nothing about the government taking people's tax money and doing things that ordinary people should be doing for themselves, including developing software.
Do you actually think that a soulless corporation is preferable to the government?
Nowhere did I mention that a corporation was the only alternative to government. I was addressing the open source community...people... If we, as software developers, want open source / free software to succeed, we should do it by earning that success...not depending upon government...or corporations. If corporations want to help out, fine...but don't depend on them. Government is an entirely different matter though. They should not be "helping out" in areas where they have no authority. Government does need to buy software, however, but they also have a financial and ethical responsibility to taxpayers and citizens. So they should buy the best and most cost-effective software for the job. I'm not naive enough to believe that currently that would always be open source or free software. But in many cases it would. Fine. They can buy software. But to promote one type of software development over another...no, that's not within our government's authority.
Libertarians are so... naive.
I agree with you, in general. They are naive on many things. I'm not a libertarian. But since you've felt free to label me, whom you don't know at all...I'll feel free to take some liberties myself...
Also, you've forgotten the one rule of American society: people are idiots.
Typical liberal. The people are idiots...only we elite know what's best for them, and we'll make the government force-feed it to them whether they want it or not. And lets attack anybody who disagrees with us by calling them names and using foul language.
Thank you, no.
I like and use a lot of open source and free software. I think monopolies such as Microsoft's are a danger to competition and capitalism in general. I think open and free software can produce some fine software and can compete favorably against proprietary. But in the interest of true freedom, I am not for forcibly abolishing proprietary software nor am I for incorrectly using the force of government to dictate that one form of software development is "good" and shall be promoted over another that is deemed "evil". That's not government's job.
Government should not be in the business of taking people's money as taxes and using them to promote one thing over another. I'm sick and tired of government using our tax money for social engineering.
If we want free (as in freedom) software to succeed we should accomplish it by earning that success...by writing good software that people (not just us geeks) want to use because its better quality, less expensive, more flexible, and unencumbered by the licensing issues, and the privacy-invasive marketing and advertising schemes.
Trying to accomplish it by government dictate with taxpayer's dollars is doomed to failure and is just socialist social engineering.
These universities and labs should either be 100% private or 100% public. If they're public, if they accept public money, then the results should be available for all citizens to see and use. Alternatively, if they want to auction or license something off to the higher bidder, then the "revenue stream" should go back to the public taxpayers, not to the university or lab. We're the real "owners" of the product because we paid for it.
On the other hand, if they want to become private organizations and get off the public dole, then they can do what they want.
GKC
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Lets see. How many US flags have been planted on the moon? And how many other countries' flags?
If you don't like the flag method of ownership. Lets just say the moon is up for grabs. Whoever can get there can do what they want...
"Now you might take the view, as I do to some extent, that in the long term the eradication of the 'virus with shoes' wouldn't actually be a bad thing".
Are you volunteering commit suicide first? Or are you just another hypocrite?
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For what it is worth, we Catholics do not believe it is a power of the priest that does this. It is Jesus doing it through the actions of the priest. Similarly, when a priest pronounces absolution after a person confesses his sins, its not the priest forgiving our sins, it is Jesus. This is done because we humans are physical beings as well as spiritual, and its good to have those sensory cues, like the priest pronouncing the words of consecration, and the words of absolution. It is so much more comforting to actually hear those words of forgiveness than to just assume them. This is also why we Catholics have the "smells and bells" in our liturgy. Our physical senses are to be used to experience the sacred.
Nope. I typed T and I meant T. Your mistake.
"I don't watch Fox News, because I know Fox News is about sensationalist reporting designed to increase viewership with the end result of pushing an agenda."
Gee, that sounds like the NYT, too.
You want to escape to a non-tyrannical country? Sure! We'll help smuggle you out of Canada.
'nuff said
Well, the coastal cities of the US are where all the liberals live. So why should we care about what happens there at all? Sounds like a useful bit of "urban renewal" to me.
Since you don't know what I'm using my system for, if I were you I would think again before calling me an idiot.
For the work that I do, I need that horsepower to have multiple VMs running simultaneously, running different OS's, all doing some serious compilations.
For that, you need the kind of machine I described. Now that can't be done using a standard laptop at all. But for going on the road, colinux would be nice to use on a smaller, lower power, standard laptop. Because why would I want to shell out a several hundred bucks for vmware just for that? Idiot...
There are a lot of laptops out there that aren't powerful enough to run linux on vmware on windows or windows on vmware on linux.
I wouldn't do it without a 3.0 Mhz system with 2 Gb of RAM, and at least a 40 Gb disk. I happen to have such a laptop, and I bought it especially for this purpose and paid lots of bucks for it. But my old 1.7 Ghz, 30 Gb, 256 Mb RAM Vaio R505 should be able to handle this...
The environmentalists are whining about it because it involves living people. Anything involving people who are actually alive is evil, don't you know that? This planet is a precious web of (non-human) life that is balanced on a knife's edge. If you sweat too much, or do anything that you might enjoy... well... the whole planet could explode.
"the episode where Enterprise exposes the Vulcan spy base to the Andorians. In later episodes, it is commented that that decision greatly increased tensions between the Vulcans and the Andorians, understandably. But the whole thing is played off (in fact I think T'Pol takes the Vulcan command to task on this) as it being the Vulcan's fault!"
Well, it *was* the Vulcan's fault. There were violating a treaty. They were wrong. And its something *the Vulcan's* should learn from... even if it has to be learned from us nasty, un-pc humans.
Sheesh... even truth and honesty have to give way to the sacred liberal cows of PC, relativism, anti-Americanism, and anti-humanism? Sorry, but that's just silly.
Besides... people can learn from their mistakes without going around in sackcloth and ashes moping about it. So the fact that the Enterprise crew doesn't come out and say, "Woe is us, we made a mistake", doesn't mean a thing. When I make a mistake I just suck it up and move on and try not to make it again. Being that unsubtle to pontificate on it would be lousy scriptwriting.
And, the fact that T'Pol took the Vulcans to task about the listening post and not the humans invalidates your whole point about that particular incident. The humans didn't throw it in their faces, even though they ought to have done so. Another Vulcan did. And the fact that the incident caused tensions with the Andorians was the Vulcans' fault.
And before T'Pol brought that incident up, Archer has just finished up a long speech about how humans were going to make mistakes, but they would learn from them.
It just amazes me at how many people today seem willing to, if they had the power, press a button and make humanity disappear. Of course, they'd prefer to press another button to make Americans disappear first, and then the rest of humanity.
GKC
"Men do not differ much about what things they will call evils; they differ enormously about what evils they will call excusable."
-- G. K. Chesterton
During WWII an American GI came upon a Pacific Islander who was reading the Bible.
;)
(I'm not trying to be pro-Christian here, although I am one. This is just what happened. Although for the point being made here, you could just as well substitute the Talmud, the Koran, the Baghavad Gita [sp?], or anything else.)
After talking with him awhile, the American GI told him that people in our country have left the need for such things behind. The island native said he was glad that his people did not have that attitude because otherwise he would be trying to cook and eat the GI right now.
At least that islander understood the uncomfortable truth that all cultures are not equal. Some cultures are better, in general, than others... just as some individuals are better than others. Its just reality... a fact. There are people who are better engineers than I am, and there are people who are worse. There are people who are more virtuous than I am, and there are those who aren't.
There are some cultures that aren't worth a bucket of warm spit. And there are some that are wonderful in various ways. I won't hide from the truth just because its not a warm fuzzy, touchy-feely, liberal, politically-correct truth.
I find it interesting that the Q and the Borg are held up as races to be looked up to. I sincerely hope its a joke that I missed due to the lack of body language inherent in a written post. I do not look up to any real or imagined culture that forcibly represses the individual and seeks to make it absolutely and totally subservient to a "collective", nor one that enslaves others, such as the Borg does. Nor do I look up to a culture that walks away from the universe, except for the odd member that comes back to torture the lesser advanced cultures as the Q does.
Human beings are imperfect, and nothing that they ever create will be perfect. So none of our cultures will ever be perfect, and American culture is certainly not perfect. However, it has a been a fairly good culture that shows a lot of ability to improve itself quickly. Our culture abolished slavery in less than 100 years since the foundation of the nation. Nearly all large cultures have had slavery at some time in their past. None have eliminated it as quickly nor as forcefully as ours has.
True, our culture has been in a bit of decline for the past 40 years, but I have great hope that we can recover before it becomes permanent. And I greatly suspect that the poster of the original comment would disagree with me on the evidence and reasons for the decline in our culture.
GKC
"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult and left untried." -- G. K. Chesterton
Ah, but that brings us to the agendas of both organizations like the Washington Times and of FAIR.
Do I trust the source "Washington Times"? Or do I trust the source "FAIR"?
FAIR is not high on my list of "objective" organizations. Now maybe the Washington Times isn't either. But when you stack them up against the New York Times, LA Times and ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN/MSNBC, etc... well, I'll take a conservative editorial slant and exercise my judgement with it over the liberal slant from nearly every other news organization and groups like FAIR.
Yes, I have sources. Here's one.
Published on April 23, 2002, The Washington Times
Biologists' roles in lynx-hair fraud under review
You can go search their archives yourself, but you only the first paragraph or so of the article. To get the full article you have to pay a small fee.
http://www.washingtontimes.com
All that's being done is replacing the previous administration's political hacks with the new administration's. Do you think anybody appointed by Clinton wasn't part of a political agenda? Do you think scientists are pure and virtuous if the left picks them, but not the ones the right picks?
In the last few years there have been a number of "government" scientists discovered planting evidence that "proves" endangered species existed in certain areas in order to prevent logging or housing development, etc. As far as I'm concerned, any scientist or engineer working for the government is either actively or unwittingly pursuing a political agenda. And the most conspicuosly egregious example of this has been the agenda of the leftist religion of environmentalism.
gkc
This ruling isn't taking on the "powers that be", its taking on the Clinton Justice Dept. Everything that's been ruled on is from the Clinton years. In fact, Judge Royce Lamberth, who just finished up as the presiding judge of that court praised Ashcroft and his Justice Dept. for cleaning up the mess and reforming the process.
I contacted Sharp--they had no plans for an X server as of two months ago. Even if there was one, as long as Qt/Embedded "owns" the screen, lots of nifty X11-based handheld software just won't port (input methods, window management, etc.).
Just because Sharp isn't producing it, doesn't mean it isn't out there.
Most servers run with only a text-mode console display, or they run entirely headless. Should we scrap them because its not X?
X11 can fully support text-only applications, as well as Qt-based applications. Qt/Embedded does not support X11-based applications. Get the difference?
Yes, but the lack of an X server doesn't make the whole Zaurus useless for those who don't have a need for an xserver. The average PDA user doesn't need or care about X. This is all assuming there is no X server...but there is.
This whole post just makes no sense.
Perhaps that's because I have developed handheld software and you haven't?
Sorry, but you're wrong yet again. I've been paid rather well for developing handheld software.
That's not true at all. First off, there is an xserver available for the Zaurus. Second, Qt/Embedded is just another layer of software dependencies. Ever try to run a KDE app on your desktop without Qt stuff installed? Ever try to run a GNOME app without the GTK?
Most servers run with only a text-mode console display, or they run entirely headless. Should we scrap them because its not X?
This whole post just makes no sense.
Agenda's problems had nothing to do with linux and its fitness or lack thereof for PDAs. It died because it was pushed out the door before it was done. They weren't done with the OS, they weren't done with apps, and they weren't done with the hardware. It was pushed out the door because of the financial difficulties of Agenda's parent company.
Actually, with the latest kernels and romdisks, the Agenda is a pretty nice device for the low end of the PDA spectrum But its not consumer-ready and probably never will be now. But it could've been. I use it as my everyday PDA currently. But I also have a Zaurus and will probably switch to it once I have a few spare cycles.
A bigger issue I have with Agenda is that I don't think the target market was a winner. I don't think the low end of the PDA spectrum is where a business wants to be. Its up at the high end with the iPAQs, Jornadas, and Zaurus where anything interesting and profitable would be happening.
You're right. I wasn't sufficiently clear. I'm not saying that government shouldn't buy software. I was saying that government shouldn't be in the business of promoting one business model over another, which wasn't necessarily your original point...but I know too many out there who would make it their point.
When government buys software they should buy the software that does the job they need to have done in the most cost-effective way possible. At this point in time, that's not always going to be open source or free software.
As for lobbyists...at best they are necessary evil. I'd prefer to stay away from them.
GKC
I don't watch Bill O'Reilly. The government set-up cable monopoly where I live unfortunately doesn't show Fox News.
What's so bad about the government HELPING PEOPLE??
Our government has source code, its called the constitution. In it there's nothing about the government taking people's tax money and doing things that ordinary people should be doing for themselves, including developing software.
Do you actually think that a soulless corporation is preferable to the government?
Nowhere did I mention that a corporation was the only alternative to government. I was addressing the open source community...people... If we, as software developers, want open source / free software to succeed, we should do it by earning that success...not depending upon government...or corporations. If corporations want to help out, fine...but don't depend on them. Government is an entirely different matter though. They should not be "helping out" in areas where they have no authority. Government does need to buy software, however, but they also have a financial and ethical responsibility to taxpayers and citizens. So they should buy the best and most cost-effective software for the job. I'm not naive enough to believe that currently that would always be open source or free software. But in many cases it would. Fine. They can buy software. But to promote one type of software development over another...no, that's not within our government's authority.
Libertarians are so ... naive.
I agree with you, in general. They are naive on many things. I'm not a libertarian. But since you've felt free to label me, whom you don't know at all...I'll feel free to take some liberties myself...
Also, you've forgotten the one rule of American society: people are idiots.
Typical liberal. The people are idiots...only we elite know what's best for them, and we'll make the government force-feed it to them whether they want it or not. And lets attack anybody who disagrees with us by calling them names and using foul language.
Thank you, no.
I like and use a lot of open source and free software. I think monopolies such as Microsoft's are a danger to competition and capitalism in general. I think open and free software can produce some fine software and can compete favorably against proprietary. But in the interest of true freedom, I am not for forcibly abolishing proprietary software nor am I for incorrectly using the force of government to dictate that one form of software development is "good" and shall be promoted over another that is deemed "evil". That's not government's job.
GKC
More government handouts are not a solution.
Government should not be in the business of taking people's money as taxes and using them to promote one thing over another. I'm sick and tired of government using our tax money for social engineering.
If we want free (as in freedom) software to succeed we should accomplish it by earning that success...by writing good software that people (not just us geeks) want to use because its better quality, less expensive, more flexible, and unencumbered by the licensing issues, and the privacy-invasive marketing and advertising schemes.
Trying to accomplish it by government dictate with taxpayer's dollars is doomed to failure and is just socialist social engineering.
GKC
These universities and labs should either be 100% private or 100% public. If they're public, if they accept public money, then the results should be available for all citizens to see and use. Alternatively, if they want to auction or license something off to the higher bidder, then the "revenue stream" should go back to the public taxpayers, not to the university or lab. We're the real "owners" of the product because we paid for it.
On the other hand, if they want to become private organizations and get off the public dole, then they can do what they want.
GKC
Lets see. How many US flags have been planted on the moon? And how many other countries' flags?
If you don't like the flag method of ownership. Lets just say the moon is up for grabs. Whoever can get there can do what they want...
Why should someone assign away their right to control OR their responsibility to protect to the FSF on their say so? I won't.
GKC
"Now you might take the view, as I do to some extent, that in the long term the eradication of the 'virus with shoes' wouldn't actually be a bad thing".
Are you volunteering commit suicide first? Or are you just another hypocrite?
GKC