This is interesting to me. I've been pitching and installing RH to my customers since 2000. I've mainly done this because HP and Compaq supported it and the customers have heard of it.
Most of my clients are running 7.x. I am pushing all of them to subscribe to RHN for updates. I am concerned with the security updates for the 7.3 version stopping at the end of the year.
It may be difficult to move their ancillary parts of key aplications (qmail, php, libcrypt, vmailmgr, squirrelmail) to RH 8 or 9 due to GCC 3.x issues. They don't want to pay for Enterprise or more than $60 a year for updates. It is hard enough getting them off W2K.
Alternatives have to have some form automatic security updating.
I guess if RH really stops support for 7.3 at the end of the year, we will all move to something else.
Is Debian the logical one? I have been experiementing with Debian, although the Bru backup software we use may be a problem with Debian. Also RHN has updated 7.3 kernels multiple times in the last couple months, I haven't seen Debian stable update the kernel. Does apt-get update apt-get upgrade upgrade the kernel? Is Debian security updates compariable to RHN?
Of course if the courts back SCO, I guess we will be looking at BSD. MC in OKC
You might try This is qmail, vmailgr, courier, and squirrelmail on RH 7.3 Icon's rpm's for Redhat 7.3 and his guide will get you what you want in about 25 minutes. Just remember to install the rpm's before you run up2date or the updates will break parts of it.
I will second this comment and also point out that with the 2.0 version (free version), what you get is woody (Debian 3.0) with an installer that actually autodetects video, sound and network cards and an administrative tool adminmenu and xadminmenu that is very functional. Neither of these tools are GPL'd. The third thing is it is setup to always run Xwindows. If you like the idea of Debian for ease of software updates and security updates (direct from security.debian.org) but have difficulty setting up Debian sound and graphics, this is a handy tool. 2.0 is purely Woody. 2.8 is a mixture of Sarge and Sid. If help setting up is not needed, just use Debian. Try it with the 2.0 ISO from LinuxISO and decide. Also check out the forums at Libranet, they are pretty high guality, especially if you want to take your 2.0, 2.7 or 2.8 out to the bleeding edge of Sid.
Create a home share on the network named the same as their logon name (/home/logonname is standard in Samba) In their login script put the following:
net use u: "\\orion\%bkname%" xcopy/m/y/s "c:\My Documents" "\\orion\%bkname%\My Documents\"
In their autoexec.bat put: set bkname=logonname whatever the logon name is.
Make sure they set all their applications to store data under the My Documents directory.
Now, whenever they logon, the xcopy will copy only the changed data up to their network home directory. (The first time it will copy the entire/My Documents).
This is interesting to me. I've been pitching and installing RH to my customers since 2000. I've mainly done this because HP and Compaq supported it and the customers have heard of it.
Most of my clients are running 7.x. I am pushing all of them to subscribe to RHN for updates. I am concerned with the security updates for the 7.3 version stopping at the end of the year.
It may be difficult to move their ancillary parts of key aplications (qmail, php, libcrypt, vmailmgr, squirrelmail) to RH 8 or 9 due to GCC 3.x issues. They don't want to pay for Enterprise or more than $60 a year for updates. It is hard enough getting them off W2K.
Alternatives have to have some form automatic security updating.
I guess if RH really stops support for 7.3 at the end of the year, we will all move to something else.
Is Debian the logical one?
I have been experiementing with Debian, although the Bru backup software we use may be a problem with Debian. Also RHN has updated 7.3 kernels multiple times in the last couple months, I haven't seen Debian stable update the kernel. Does apt-get update apt-get upgrade upgrade the kernel? Is Debian security updates compariable to RHN?
Of course if the courts back SCO, I guess we will be looking at BSD.
MC in OKC
You might try This is qmail, vmailgr, courier, and squirrelmail on RH 7.3
Icon's rpm's for Redhat 7.3 and his guide will get you what you want in about 25 minutes. Just remember to install the rpm's before you run up2date or the updates will break parts of it.
I will second this comment and also point out that with the 2.0 version (free version), what you get is woody (Debian 3.0) with an installer that actually autodetects video, sound and network cards and an administrative tool adminmenu and xadminmenu that is very functional. Neither of these tools are GPL'd. The third thing is it is setup to always run Xwindows. If you like the idea of Debian for ease of software updates and security updates (direct from security.debian.org) but have difficulty setting up Debian sound and graphics, this is a handy tool. 2.0 is purely Woody. 2.8 is a mixture of Sarge and Sid. If help setting up is not needed, just use Debian. Try it with the 2.0 ISO from LinuxISO and decide. Also check out the forums at Libranet, they are pretty high guality, especially if you want to take your 2.0, 2.7 or 2.8 out to the bleeding edge of Sid.
Create a home share on the network named the same as their logon name (/home/logonname is standard in Samba) In their login script put the following:
/m /y /s "c:\My Documents" "\\orion\%bkname%\My Documents\"
/My Documents).
net use u: "\\orion\%bkname%"
xcopy
In their autoexec.bat put:
set bkname=logonname whatever the logon name is.
Make sure they set all their applications to store data under the My Documents directory.
Now, whenever they logon, the xcopy will copy only the changed data up to their network home directory. (The first time it will copy the entire
MC neodigita