I have yet to meet a "Java coder" who is waiting for any outside firm to standardize Java. Java works and works well, and *plenty* of professionals make good money developing Java applications. At least Sun is being honest about the level of control they want over their language. Microsoft is doing PR and will most certainly break their own standards as they have in the past when it helps to crush competition. So what good is a standard that even its creators don't conform to? It's meaningless fodder, an atempt to out PR Sun. As a professional Java developer, I can tell you whether or not Java has public standards has never entered into any development discusion. We're much more concerned about whether or not Java is capible of meeting the client's requirements -- and it always does!
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I have yet to meet a "Java coder" who is waiting for any outside firm to standardize Java. Java works and works well, and *plenty* of professionals make good money developing Java applications. At least Sun is being honest about the level of control they want over their language. Microsoft is doing PR and will most certainly break their own standards as they have in the past when it helps to crush competition. So what good is a standard that even its creators don't conform to? It's meaningless fodder, an atempt to out PR Sun. As a professional Java developer, I can tell you whether or not Java has public standards has never entered into any development discusion. We're much more concerned about whether or not Java is capible of meeting the client's requirements -- and it always does!