I don't think it is a refutation. Paypal did not deny they requested withdrawal permission, they only denied that they could withdraw without permission.
I suppose some English Grammars will call it that. That is very irritating to the rest of mankind (in the Indo-European languages).
I guess the confusion started when English lost the declinations of nouns and adjectives. Starting with the fact that "Celsius" is a proper noun, then when it is used as the qualifying part of a noun group, as in "degree Celsius", one might be tempted to call it a "proper adjective" in the sense that it is placed next to the noun that it qualifies ("degree"). That is, in the original sense of the latin word "adicio".
However, in its original grammatical function, "Celsius" is always a noun, in this case used in a noun group to qualify another noun. Calling that an "adjective" puts it (at least in the mind set of e.g. German speaking people) in a different category of word where it doesn't belong.
Let's take another example, the noun "space":
Raumgleiter = space shuttle Raum-Zeit-Kontinuum = space time continuum räumliches Sehen = spatial (i.e. stereoscopic) vision
Do you call "space" a proper adjective there, too?
I'm just curious... the way we learned English Grammar at school was more aligned with the German/Latin versions but since then I've found the term "adjective" often used in strange cases in English Grammars...
Some English speaking persons have strange asumptions by way of a grammar:-)
While the "degree" shouldn't be paired with Kelvin indeed, it is most definitely still a noun. "Degree Celsius" is simply a group of nouns, just like both words in "Ford Mustang" are.
In an interview on Austrian Television,
Cardinal Schönborn clarified his position
somewhat. IIRC, his points were:
The Catholic church has no problems with
evolution theory. (John Paul II. also said
so).
In a similar way that science has historically
suffered from patronization by religion, today
it is sometimes the other way around: Some
scientists tend to overreach and leave the
realms of science by making claims about the
(non-existing) design in universe that are
not scientifically supported. This is rejected
by the church.
The church believes that science is fully
compatible with the Catholic faith, and
with reason.
I believe that Schönborn's purpose with his
statement in the NY Times was not meant as a
comment on what should be taught in science
classes in U.S. schools. Indeed, in Austria
the curriculums of all schools (AFAIK) teach
evolution theory exclusively in all science
classes, and I'm not aware of any opposition
against that by any of the churches.
In Austria, religion is a subject in school,
paid by the government and taught by teachers
of the respective religious group of the
students. My personal teachers of religion have
devoted a lot of time to the creation of the
universe, but always fully compatible with
evolution theory.
Ask for the number of the manager, then
for the manager's manager etc.
If they don't want to give you the number,
tell them you will call their customer and
complain.
Call the highest person you can get hold of
repeatedly and longishly and urge them to
inform each other that you don't want to be
called.
For each new telemarketer that calls, make
a full round of calls to all the old ones,
giving each of them the numbers of all the
others and urging them to call each other
exchanging the information.
After doing this several times, I somehow didn't
get called any more.
Fortunately, I'm back in Europe now and we
don't have that pest over here.
Austria's minister of the interior answered a parliamentary question with the following information:
the ministry cannot ensure that the code corresponds to the operating system
presently, three employees of the ministry have access to the source
access is not available on a tape or such but
only over the internet, protected by a chip card and pin code
the ministry does not intend to investigate security relevant parts of the operating system
the ministry does not expect improvements in the security of the 'shared source' systems, compared to previously used systems (NT4)
To me the kind of access offered by Microsoft seems pretty useless since searches for malicious code patterns, cross-correlations of code, and other important analysis jobs probably cannot be done by those means.
Note that this application is apparently a closed internal system without direct connection from outside. XP might be safe enough for that:-)
I mailed Rob Thomason and he replied & told me
the test of MP3pro vs. Vorbis was a blind test
after all. The testers didn't know what they
were listening to but he did.
The time constraints of the evaluators didn't
allow for a greater variety of music.
So it might be interesting to have some sort
of more thorough testing done once the new
Vorbis is out.
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I don't think it is a refutation. Paypal did not deny they requested withdrawal permission,
they only denied that they could withdraw without permission.
Nice way of talking around the main question.
I suppose some English Grammars will call it that. That is very irritating to the rest of mankind (in the Indo-European languages).
... the way we learned English Grammar at school was more aligned with the German/Latin versions but since then I've found the term "adjective" often used in strange cases in English Grammars ...
I guess the confusion started when English lost the declinations of nouns and adjectives. Starting with the fact that "Celsius" is a proper noun, then when it is used as the qualifying part of a noun group, as in "degree Celsius", one might be tempted to call it a "proper adjective" in the sense that it is placed next to the noun that it qualifies ("degree").
That is, in the original sense of the latin word "adicio".
However, in its original grammatical function, "Celsius" is always a noun, in this case used in a noun group to qualify another noun. Calling that an "adjective" puts it (at least in the mind set of e.g. German speaking people) in a different category of word where it doesn't belong.
Let's take another example, the noun "space":
Raumgleiter = space shuttle
Raum-Zeit-Kontinuum = space time continuum
räumliches Sehen = spatial (i.e. stereoscopic) vision
Do you call "space" a proper adjective there, too?
I'm just curious
Some English speaking persons have strange asumptions by way of a grammar :-)
While the "degree" shouldn't be paired with Kelvin indeed, it is most definitely still a noun.
"Degree Celsius" is simply a group of nouns, just like both words in "Ford Mustang" are.
- The Catholic church has no problems with
evolution theory. (John Paul II. also said
so).
- In a similar way that science has historically
suffered from patronization by religion, today
it is sometimes the other way around: Some
scientists tend to overreach and leave the
realms of science by making claims about the
(non-existing) design in universe that are
not scientifically supported. This is rejected
by the church.
- The church believes that science is fully
compatible with the Catholic faith, and
with reason.
I believe that Schönborn's purpose with his statement in the NY Times was not meant as a comment on what should be taught in science classes in U.S. schools. Indeed, in Austria the curriculums of all schools (AFAIK) teach evolution theory exclusively in all science classes, and I'm not aware of any opposition against that by any of the churches.In Austria, religion is a subject in school, paid by the government and taught by teachers of the respective religious group of the students. My personal teachers of religion have devoted a lot of time to the creation of the universe, but always fully compatible with evolution theory.
YMMV, especially in other countries :-)
- Ask for the number of the manager, then
for the manager's manager etc.
- Call the highest person you can get hold of
repeatedly and longishly and urge them to
inform each other that you don't want to be
called.
- For each new telemarketer that calls, make
a full round of calls to all the old ones,
giving each of them the numbers of all the
others and urging them to call each other
exchanging the information.
After doing this several times, I somehow didn't get called any more.If they don't want to give you the number, tell them you will call their customer and complain.
Fortunately, I'm back in Europe now and we don't have that pest over here.
- the ministry cannot ensure that the code corresponds to the operating system
- presently, three employees of the ministry have access to the source
- access is not available on a tape or such but
only over the internet, protected by a chip card and pin code
- the ministry does not intend to investigate security relevant parts of the operating system
- the ministry does not expect improvements in the security of the 'shared source' systems, compared to previously used systems (NT4)
To me the kind of access offered by Microsoft seems pretty useless since searches for malicious code patterns, cross-correlations of code, and other important analysis jobs probably cannot be done by those means.Note that this application is apparently a closed internal system without direct connection from outside. XP might be safe enough for that :-)
I mailed Rob Thomason and he replied & told me
the test of MP3pro vs. Vorbis was a blind test
after all. The testers didn't know what they
were listening to but he did.
The time constraints of the evaluators didn't
allow for a greater variety of music.
So it might be interesting to have some sort
of more thorough testing done once the new
Vorbis is out.