but it has a lot of attributes that seem like they're there because they made life a lot easier for the developer of thelanguage, not for the "end user developer"
For instance?
I agree that the error messages are a bit obtuse at times, but that doesn't make it a toy language.
Sure, when perl was booming, CGI was all about the web, but now-a-days you find more PHP in use than perl for quick projects [..], and ColdFusion or J2EE for large web apps[..].
It's a shame that PHP has this reputation for only being good for 'quick and dirty' projects. I guess it is because there is so much badly hacked together PHP code available on the web. Or perhaps it's the "it can't be good - it's free" meme.
I have come across a couple of CTOs who are put off PHP by its reputation, which is a real shame. They think it is a toy language and not suitable for large commercial projects. However, the reality is that PHP is now an extremely well designed and advanced language, and good for even very large projects. It has some extremely competent techies working on it. It is also well maintained and advancing rapidly. So, if you don't fancy PHP because of its reputation, I suggest you take another look at it.
I am just wondering the cultural obsession that the Japanese have with rail systms, if any one has an answer.
Perhaps your question should be "What is the reason for the lack of a good rail system in the USA?" Lots of places in the world have good rail transport, not just Japan, virtually all of Europe too.
Personally I think these games are all about people and imagination, and could do without computer involvement of any sort, but that's just my view.
If you are having execution times of over 30 seconds for a PHP script, then it is likely you are doing something wrong. If your a newbie, try asking questions on phpdeveloper.com.
Teaching that kind of crap to kids insults their intelligence and hinders their thinking process.
Absolutely. It dismays me that in the USA people these days it seems that people cannot formulate an intelligent response to complex situations where there are multiple variables. Everything gets reduced to good and bad, goodies and baddies, black and white, left and right. Everything is dumbed down, even politics and history. That's why so many people on Slashdot were shocked to read stuff like the letter that Peruvian congress man wrote. Shocked by intelligent, eloquent, unbiased reasoning, because it's so uncommon these days.
A history teacher I once took some courses from in High School (Military History and US History) subscribed to an interesting theory; The fall of Russian Communism resulted from McDonalds.
If this theory is meant to be taken literally, then it is an insult to the Russian people. They aren't that stupid, nor ignorant, at least those that I know in Moscow and StPetersburg. Even many years before the fall of Russian Communism many Russians were well aware about the world outside Russia and the failings of their political system. To say that Russian Communism fell because of McDonalds is such as gross simplification of what happened that it is meaningless.
No, I'm not f**king trying. Jeeze. You can't even make a simple comment pointing out something positive about Europe in comparison to the USA without it being modded as Flamebait and getting responses like yours.
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This review reads like a Wired article - "visionary thinkers with groundbreaking ideas set to revolutionize the world!", whereas in actual fact these type of ideas are fairly mainstream in some parts of Europe.
I don't want to start off a USA vs Europe thread, but it's true that in some countries in Europe (not all) the level of environmental awareness and recycling is extremely high in industry as well as the government and public spheres.
Yes, that's a great idea! Let's screw up an initiative for OSS companies co-operating together! Linux is the greatest OSS successes of all time. Let's fuck that up! Yes! Let's lock ourselves in little darks rooms and work on GNU/Hurd instead, purely for ideological rahter than practical reasons! Great thinking, RMS!
Of course, it may be that you don't want to live in a civilized society, in which case you can go fuck yourself.
Perhaps I need to expand on this a bit:
What I mean is, I prefer to live in a civilization where individuals, society, laws and government work together for the common good, and people are not selfish and uncivil to one another. If you don't want to live in a society like that, then I'll respect your descision by telling you to go fuck yourself.
However, that's not directly what I wanted to say. I'd instead like to point out the two main reasons we got to this point:
Things aren't as black and white as you make out. The type of thinking you are displaying (Government = Bad, Regulation = Bad, Freedom = Good, Guns = Good) is crude, to say the least.
Most people can see that the world is a complex place, full of contradictions, conflicting requirements and grey areas. The goal of a civilized society is to come up with a system that balances these as best as possible. You're kind of thinking is not a solution for a balanced, civilized society. Of course, it may be that you don't want to live in a civilized society, in which case you can go fuck yourself.
A lot of people must have very short-term memories. They seem to think that everything just happens over night in the IT sector. It doesn't. Companies and technologies take years to take off.
You could have said "Too little, too late" about RedHat a couple of years ago. Linux on the server? Microsoft has won that battle, Redhat are too little, too late. Internet Explorer version 1? Too little, too late, Netscape has won that battle, they've got over 90% market share. Oracle? Who's heard of them? Everyone uses dBase. etc., etc...
Unfortunately for SuSe, Caldera, et. al, the standard most businesses are choosing is Red Hat.
I think this could change quite easily. We're still in the early stages of the uptake of Linux. It's only got to take one of the big players (HP, IBM, Dell...) to decide to give more support to UnitedLinux than to RedHat for all this to change.
Look at the companies that are supporting United Linux. IBM especially likes to see lots of competition between its suppliers. United Linux is a way for then to have that competition and at the same time have all the linux suppliers producing a technically consistent product.
I think it should be called "Motherfucking Linux" and they should have Samuel L Jackson advertising it. I'd like to hear Mr Jackson say "Motherfucking Linux will whip Microsoft's ass". I'd pay good money for that.
This is great. What would be even greater would be if all the Linux vendors could standardize as far as possible on the core distribution. They should compete on the nature of their services.
Yes, and none of that "One small step for man..." rubbish when they land. I want Samuel L. Jackson jumping out of the spacecraft and saying something with the word "motherfucker" in it.
Matthew Collins, an Australian lawyer who has written on Internet libel, said a decision by a United States appellate court affirming Mr. Young's jurisdictional claim could bolster judges in Australia and elsewhere. American courts, he said, are widely regarded as being the most protective of free expression, and a ruling adverse to news media interests would carry weight.
You are so full of crap. What you've highlighted isn't even an opinion, it's a statement from a lawyer trying to defend his position by referring to USA law. You're treating it as if it is fact.
I seem to recall that here in the UK demon internet wasn't held to account for a posting on one of it's websites/forums, but the user that posted was.
Unfortuantely you're wrong. The case you are referring to I think is one in which Demon was used by a teacher because some kids had posted libellous things (relating to the teacher's holiday to Bangkok) and the teacher thought that Demon should remove them. The court ruled against Demon, partly because the company did not remove the material when the teacher asked them to.
However, I agree that it's a good thing the rest of the world doesn't have laws like in the USA. I don't think laws allowing the ownership of firearms, not being allowed to drink until you're 21, and having to drive at ridiculously slow speeds on highways would be very popular in most of Europe!
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but it has a lot of attributes that seem like they're there because they made life a lot easier for the developer of thelanguage, not for the "end user developer"
For instance?
I agree that the error messages are a bit obtuse at times, but that doesn't make it a toy language.
Maybe it is just because PHP IS A TOY LANGUAGE!
what is your definition of a toy language?
Sure, when perl was booming, CGI was all about the web, but now-a-days you find more PHP in use than perl for quick projects [..], and ColdFusion or J2EE for large web apps[..].
It's a shame that PHP has this reputation for only being good for 'quick and dirty' projects. I guess it is because there is so much badly hacked together PHP code available on the web. Or perhaps it's the "it can't be good - it's free" meme.
I have come across a couple of CTOs who are put off PHP by its reputation, which is a real shame. They think it is a toy language and not suitable for large commercial projects. However, the reality is that PHP is now an extremely well designed and advanced language, and good for even very large projects. It has some extremely competent techies working on it. It is also well maintained and advancing rapidly. So, if you don't fancy PHP because of its reputation, I suggest you take another look at it.
Well, from a political point of view some people might consider the UK to be more of another state of the USA than a full member of Europe.
I am just wondering the cultural obsession that the Japanese have with rail systms, if any one has an answer.
Perhaps your question should be "What is the reason for the lack of a good rail system in the USA?" Lots of places in the world have good rail transport, not just Japan, virtually all of Europe too.
Personally I think these games are all about people and imagination, and could do without computer involvement of any sort, but that's just my view.
If you are having execution times of over 30 seconds for a PHP script, then it is likely you are doing something wrong. If your a newbie, try asking questions on phpdeveloper.com.
Teaching that kind of crap to kids insults their intelligence and hinders their thinking process.
Absolutely. It dismays me that in the USA people these days it seems that people cannot formulate an intelligent response to complex situations where there are multiple variables. Everything gets reduced to good and bad, goodies and baddies, black and white, left and right. Everything is dumbed down, even politics and history. That's why so many people on Slashdot were shocked to read stuff like the letter that Peruvian congress man wrote. Shocked by intelligent, eloquent, unbiased reasoning, because it's so uncommon these days.
A history teacher I once took some courses from in High School (Military History and US History) subscribed to an interesting theory; The fall of Russian Communism resulted from McDonalds.
If this theory is meant to be taken literally, then it is an insult to the Russian people. They aren't that stupid, nor ignorant, at least those that I know in Moscow and StPetersburg. Even many years before the fall of Russian Communism many Russians were well aware about the world outside Russia and the failings of their political system. To say that Russian Communism fell because of McDonalds is such as gross simplification of what happened that it is meaningless.
I don't want to start off a USA vs Europe thread
Looks like you are trying to, really.
No, I'm not f**king trying. Jeeze. You can't even make a simple comment pointing out something positive about Europe in comparison to the USA without it being modded as Flamebait and getting responses like yours.
This review reads like a Wired article - "visionary thinkers with groundbreaking ideas set to revolutionize the world!", whereas in actual fact these type of ideas are fairly mainstream in some parts of Europe.
I don't want to start off a USA vs Europe thread, but it's true that in some countries in Europe (not all) the level of environmental awareness and recycling is extremely high in industry as well as the government and public spheres.
Yes, that's a great idea! Let's screw up an initiative for OSS companies co-operating together! Linux is the greatest OSS successes of all time. Let's fuck that up! Yes! Let's lock ourselves in little darks rooms and work on GNU/Hurd instead, purely for ideological rahter than practical reasons! Great thinking, RMS!
That man is an idiot sometimes.
And you think this is possible. Lemme guess you're a college student, right?
No, I'm not a college student. Perhaps my thinking is influenced by the fact that I'm not a North American.
Of course, it may be that you don't want to live in a civilized society, in which case you can go fuck yourself.
Perhaps I need to expand on this a bit:
What I mean is, I prefer to live in a civilization where individuals, society, laws and government work together for the common good, and people are not selfish and uncivil to one another. If you don't want to live in a society like that, then I'll respect your descision by telling you to go fuck yourself.
However, that's not directly what I wanted to say. I'd instead like to point out the two main reasons we got to this point:
Things aren't as black and white as you make out. The type of thinking you are displaying (Government = Bad, Regulation = Bad, Freedom = Good, Guns = Good) is crude, to say the least.
Most people can see that the world is a complex place, full of contradictions, conflicting requirements and grey areas. The goal of a civilized society is to come up with a system that balances these as best as possible. You're kind of thinking is not a solution for a balanced, civilized society. Of course, it may be that you don't want to live in a civilized society, in which case you can go fuck yourself.
Too little, too late.
A lot of people must have very short-term memories. They seem to think that everything just happens over night in the IT sector. It doesn't. Companies and technologies take years to take off.
You could have said "Too little, too late" about RedHat a couple of years ago. Linux on the server? Microsoft has won that battle, Redhat are too little, too late. Internet Explorer version 1? Too little, too late, Netscape has won that battle, they've got over 90% market share. Oracle? Who's heard of them? Everyone uses dBase. etc., etc...
Seems it's too late at least for Dell
The IT marketplace doesn't change that quickly, or that easily. Things take place over years. And things can change.
Unfortunately for SuSe, Caldera, et. al, the standard most businesses are choosing is Red Hat.
I think this could change quite easily. We're still in the early stages of the uptake of Linux. It's only got to take one of the big players (HP, IBM, Dell...) to decide to give more support to UnitedLinux than to RedHat for all this to change.
Look at the companies that are supporting United Linux. IBM especially likes to see lots of competition between its suppliers. United Linux is a way for then to have that competition and at the same time have all the linux suppliers producing a technically consistent product.
I think it should be called "Motherfucking Linux" and they should have Samuel L Jackson advertising it. I'd like to hear Mr Jackson say "Motherfucking Linux will whip Microsoft's ass". I'd pay good money for that.
This is great. What would be even greater would be if all the Linux vendors could standardize as far as possible on the core distribution. They should compete on the nature of their services.
Yes, and none of that "One small step for man..." rubbish when they land. I want Samuel L. Jackson jumping out of the spacecraft and saying something with the word "motherfucker" in it.
Who should be the members of such a crew if it were to be launched?
Definately Keanu Reeves wearing some cool sunglasses. Definately not Tom Hanks crying and being sentimental like a big girl.
just wondering.. if I am sued for something I have said on a website I own, will they come to pick me up and bring be in the US to be judged?
No, the will send you an official letter, which you will then throw in the bin and forget about.
Matthew Collins, an Australian lawyer who has written on Internet libel, said a decision by a United States appellate court affirming Mr. Young's jurisdictional claim could bolster judges in Australia and elsewhere. American courts, he said, are widely regarded as being the most protective of free expression, and a ruling adverse to news media interests would carry weight.
You are so full of crap. What you've highlighted isn't even an opinion, it's a statement from a lawyer trying to defend his position by referring to USA law. You're treating it as if it is fact.
Demon was sued by a teacher
I seem to recall that here in the UK demon internet wasn't held to account for a posting on one of it's websites/forums, but the user that posted was.
Unfortuantely you're wrong. The case you are referring to I think is one in which Demon was used by a teacher because some kids had posted libellous things (relating to the teacher's holiday to Bangkok) and the teacher thought that Demon should remove them. The court ruled against Demon, partly because the company did not remove the material when the teacher asked them to.
However, I agree that it's a good thing the rest of the world doesn't have laws like in the USA. I don't think laws allowing the ownership of firearms, not being allowed to drink until you're 21, and having to drive at ridiculously slow speeds on highways would be very popular in most of Europe!