What you describe sounds an awful lot like WozNet.
And that would be great, provided it wasn't corrupted too, that is, that governments weren't able to hijack the system and use it to track its citizens.
The danger isn't in criminals scanning your home to see what you have, but rather the government installing/having access to scanners in public places that will allow them to track your movements.
Obviously, these things aren't just going to be attached to foodstuffs. They'll be used in clothing and other personal effects that you'll carry with you at all times.
The article fails to mention this. Frankly, the article reads like the sort of propaganda piece the industry would put out.
That's what I suggest be done here. If we can re-program the simulation to come out on top, I see no reason why we shouldn't get a commendation for original thinking.
Desert terrain I think is appealing... you want the air to be dry to prevent, um, twinkling of the stars.
It seems to me that astronomers are going to be a big part of the group, so better to have them sign off on a place. Thing is, they tend to gravitate towards mountains in an effort to minimize the amount of atmosphere they have to contend with, and mountains scare me because of the "larger" horizon... more opportunity for light to get into the mix, so we'd need even more land.
It would be great if we could get sponsorship from some kind of industry that would use the land, but not at light. You'd think mining companies would be a natural choice, but damn if they don't light up their operations like Christmas Trees at night.
Throughout history all mankind was treated to this incredible sight, and now for most of us, it's gone.
Some of my most memorable experiences were when I made it out to a deserted area, free of light pollution, and allowed to take in the night sky as it really is.
What's the loss of that? It goes beyond seritonin levels... there's something we've lost that connects us to the universe, that can so easily awe us. What are the consequences of that on our psyches? On our very soul?
I say a bunch of us should get together, pool our resources, and buy up a couple of thousand square miles of land and have it designated a no-light zone. Make it out in the desert somewhere, while it's still vacant. The only people allowed to travel/live there would be those who voluntarily consent to certain rules designed to keep light pollution down to zero. No driving at night for instance, or if you do, doing so using some sort of special equipment like night-vision goggles say. All windows would have to be equipped with zero-leakage blinds or curtains. No outdoor lighting of any kind, whatsoever.
Call it Dark City. Like the movie, only darker (and hopefully more friendly people.)
I wonder how many of us would want to live there?
How many of us have actually gotten to see the night sky as it really is?
One possible explanation: the oil beneath Iraq isn't enough.
To get the oil and gas that lay beneath the Caspian Sea, one has to go through Afghanistan.
Another explanation: Saddam could have easily refuted the confession. He goes on Iraqi TV or Al Jazeera and says, no, that wasn't me.
And besides, they need an open-ended war, a war that can never be won, a war that brings them greatly enhanced powers... a war on terror. Declare war on Saddam and once you win, the war is over.
It appears you are a bigot, so I won't waste any more time trying to convince you of anything......except to say that I am very well aware that the video went out over CNN. That isn't the point. The point is that once people started raising questions about the figure who is alleged to be bin Laden, the video disappeared.
My original statement stands. Try to find a mainstream media outlet that still makes this video available, if you can.
I don't believe that video of bin Laden was bin Laden, or more correctly, that that portion of the video where bin Laden confesses to the attack was bin Laden.
For one thing, can you find me a single mainstream media organization that makes this video available over the web? I'd settle for a U.S. government source too.
When you discover that nobody seems to want to make this video available, ask yourself why that would be. If this is the evidence implicating bin Laden, shouldn't' they want it to receive the widest possible viewing?
I think the reason they don't is because it's obviously a fake. Here's the first hit Google gives you when searching for "bin laden video confession." The point made here is the same made on any number of other sites, and I think they make a great case.
I think the most compelling evidence is the Odigo story originally reported in the Washington Post. They've since taken it down, but Haaretz still carries it.
You can of course find the text of the article in the Washington Post through Google.
That an Israeli company received advance warning of the attacks is interesting, given that The New York Times reports that only one Israeli died in the WTC. This suggests that the Odigo workers may not have been the only ones warned. It's worth noting too that the one Israeli who died was only there visiting, that is, they may not have known he was even going to be there.
Then there's the Israeli spy ring that was uncovered shortly after 9/11... the biggest spy ring ever uncovered in fact. Fox News had this story, of course, they too later took the story down, but it's archived here. The presence of the spys was largely confirmed by the Jewish publication, even if they sought a more benign explanation, but both accounts link these spies with the alleged 9/11 terrorists.
Is that enough? There's more you know. All of it sourced by mainstream/corporate media organizations, all of it far more damning than the largely imaginary case being made against al Qaeda and the 19 terrorists (seven of whom have been found to still be alive, BTW.
No shelter was provided, nor was land provided, nor did they build any training camps (though our government did.)
And they offered to turn over bin Laden & Co. after the attacks, just not on the ridiculous terms set by the U.S. They wanted them to stand trial in some third country, that was hopefully impartial.
And by the way, there is absolutely no evidence that bin Laden committed the 9/11 attacks in the first place. None whatsoever. FBI Director Mueller has admitted as much.
There is however very convincing evidence that Israel at least knew about the attacks in advance.
The one from DirecTV is some kind of joint venture with TiVo and according to the press release will be out later this year.
The one from Dish is called the DishPVR 921 and may be out in August, if the lady who answers the phone at Dish was on the level.
DirecTV has a SD unit w/TiVo and the nice thing about it is that it stores the MPEG straight from the dish to the hard drive, there is no re-encoding. Hopefully, both of the upcoming HD PVR's will follow suit.
Of the two, I'd probably prefer the DirecTV/TiVo, just because I've heard so many great things about TiVo.
But only Dish offers pr0n channels that aren't PPV, so there isn't really any comparison.:)
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Because the more advanced we become, the drunkerer we get.
C'mon, we see this already in our field. The work I'm doing in software allows my company to automate work that once required hundreds if not thousands of people to perform. I have my job, but look at the number of people I've displaced.
I agree that there is a constant amount of work that needs to be performed. The problem is that as time goes on, fewer and fewer people become more and more productive, and the trend will only continue for as long as technology continues to advance.
Robots that can do everything we can do is an obvious endpoint. And it wouldn't be all that bad if we are all able to enjoy a good standard of living as a result, but anyone whose seen the human monkey in action knows that won't be the case.
The real issue is power. Those who control the machines will in effect control the people those machines serve. So when the decision as to how to use these machines arises, they will invariably be deployed so as to most benefit those who have the power.
The future for the rest of humanity is in spare parts and sex toys. At least, until they can synthesize human organs and tissues on demand, and create fully realistic sexual experience out of the ether.
When at last they are able to do these things, then the rest of us will have lost all value to our keepers. And there will be nothing to stop them from seeing to our extermination.
So use your penis while you can. Use it, while it's still yours.
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So because the government isn't competent, we should allow them access to our whereabouts in real-time?
Isn't their being incompetent actually an argument for their not having access to this information?
See???
Now how did you *know* I was wearing a tinfoil hat????
I rest my case.
What you describe sounds an awful lot like WozNet.
And that would be great, provided it wasn't corrupted too, that is, that governments weren't able to hijack the system and use it to track its citizens.
The danger isn't in criminals scanning your home to see what you have, but rather the government installing/having access to scanners in public places that will allow them to track your movements.
Obviously, these things aren't just going to be attached to foodstuffs. They'll be used in clothing and other personal effects that you'll carry with you at all times.
The article fails to mention this. Frankly, the article reads like the sort of propaganda piece the industry would put out.
I don't understand.
Some people like to step on bugs to hear the sound it makes.
Same principle here.
Remember the Kobayashi Maru? The no-win scenario?
Kirk cheated.
That's what I suggest be done here. If we can re-program the simulation to come out on top, I see no reason why we shouldn't get a commendation for original thinking.
Kirk didn't like to lose. Neither should we.
Yes, I could easily be talked into this as well.
Another chap earlier remarked about getting rid of all electromagnetic radiation, but I think that would be going too far.
I'd still want my laptop.
I promise to wear headphones.
(Why don't more people wear headphones anyways?)
Desert terrain I think is appealing... you want the air to be dry to prevent, um, twinkling of the stars.
It seems to me that astronomers are going to be a big part of the group, so better to have them sign off on a place. Thing is, they tend to gravitate towards mountains in an effort to minimize the amount of atmosphere they have to contend with, and mountains scare me because of the "larger" horizon... more opportunity for light to get into the mix, so we'd need even more land.
It would be great if we could get sponsorship from some kind of industry that would use the land, but not at light. You'd think mining companies would be a natural choice, but damn if they don't light up their operations like Christmas Trees at night.
Too bad arid land doesn't make for good farming.
Throughout history all mankind was treated to this incredible sight, and now for most of us, it's gone.
Some of my most memorable experiences were when I made it out to a deserted area, free of light pollution, and allowed to take in the night sky as it really is.
What's the loss of that? It goes beyond seritonin levels... there's something we've lost that connects us to the universe, that can so easily awe us. What are the consequences of that on our psyches? On our very soul?
I say a bunch of us should get together, pool our resources, and buy up a couple of thousand square miles of land and have it designated a no-light zone. Make it out in the desert somewhere, while it's still vacant. The only people allowed to travel/live there would be those who voluntarily consent to certain rules designed to keep light pollution down to zero. No driving at night for instance, or if you do, doing so using some sort of special equipment like night-vision goggles say. All windows would have to be equipped with zero-leakage blinds or curtains. No outdoor lighting of any kind, whatsoever.
Call it Dark City. Like the movie, only darker (and hopefully more friendly people.)
I wonder how many of us would want to live there?
How many of us have actually gotten to see the night sky as it really is?
One possible explanation: the oil beneath Iraq isn't enough.
To get the oil and gas that lay beneath the Caspian Sea, one has to go through Afghanistan.
Another explanation: Saddam could have easily refuted the confession. He goes on Iraqi TV or Al Jazeera and says, no, that wasn't me.
And besides, they need an open-ended war, a war that can never be won, a war that brings them greatly enhanced powers... a war on terror. Declare war on Saddam and once you win, the war is over.
What fun is that?
I put it down to Arab incompetence.
...except to say that I am very well aware that the video went out over CNN. That isn't the point. The point is that once people started raising questions about the figure who is alleged to be bin Laden, the video disappeared.
It appears you are a bigot, so I won't waste any more time trying to convince you of anything...
My original statement stands. Try to find a mainstream media outlet that still makes this video available, if you can.
See this reply.
I don't believe that video of bin Laden was bin Laden, or more correctly, that that portion of the video where bin Laden confesses to the attack was bin Laden.
For one thing, can you find me a single mainstream media organization that makes this video available over the web? I'd settle for a U.S. government source too.
When you discover that nobody seems to want to make this video available, ask yourself why that would be. If this is the evidence implicating bin Laden, shouldn't' they want it to receive the widest possible viewing?
I think the reason they don't is because it's obviously a fake. Here's the first hit Google gives you when searching for "bin laden video confession." The point made here is the same made on any number of other sites, and I think they make a great case.
It's not him!
I'm getting this info from the Washington Post, The New York Times, the Bergen Record, Fox News, Forward, and Haaretz.
See my reply to the next poster.
I think the most compelling evidence is the Odigo story originally reported in the Washington Post. They've since taken it down, but Haaretz still carries it.
You can of course find the text of the article in the Washington Post through Google.
That an Israeli company received advance warning of the attacks is interesting, given that The New York Times reports that only one Israeli died in the WTC. This suggests that the Odigo workers may not have been the only ones warned. It's worth noting too that the one Israeli who died was only there visiting, that is, they may not have known he was even going to be there.
Then there's the Israeli spy ring that was uncovered shortly after 9/11... the biggest spy ring ever uncovered in fact. Fox News had this story, of course, they too later took the story down, but it's archived here. The presence of the spys was largely confirmed by the Jewish publication, even if they sought a more benign explanation, but both accounts link these spies with the alleged 9/11 terrorists.
Finally, we have the Israelis who were dancing as the towers fell, and who appear to have been Mossad agents.
Is that enough? There's more you know. All of it sourced by mainstream/corporate media organizations, all of it far more damning than the largely imaginary case being made against al Qaeda and the 19 terrorists (seven of whom have been found to still be alive, BTW.
No shelter was provided, nor was land provided, nor did they build any training camps (though our government did.)
And they offered to turn over bin Laden & Co. after the attacks, just not on the ridiculous terms set by the U.S. They wanted them to stand trial in some third country, that was hopefully impartial.
And by the way, there is absolutely no evidence that bin Laden committed the 9/11 attacks in the first place. None whatsoever. FBI Director Mueller has admitted as much.
There is however very convincing evidence that Israel at least knew about the attacks in advance.
Sorry, but that's just the way it is.
And we should sue the government for violating it.
I accidentally hit the Post Anonymously button on this one.
Any moderations should be made against this post.
That is, if you can find the time to do so.
...if the military is going to use open source for all of this from now on does that mean we can get our $1.1 trillion back?
I've met the fucker.
Yes, but isn't the real question: did you see the fucker actually commit the crime?
No?
So you don't know, do you.
OK. Make that read...
You can't easily plant a fingerprint...
You can't plant a fingerprint. But you *can* plant somebody's DNA.
Then the prosecutor does his 1 in 10,000,000,000 lecture to the jury, and he's guilty!
Nevermind the fact that the DNA evidence could have been easily planted, if not at the crime scene, then at the lab.
We've seen this before. And not just with OJ.
The one from DirecTV is some kind of joint venture with TiVo and according to the press release will be out later this year.
:)
The one from Dish is called the DishPVR 921 and may be out in August, if the lady who answers the phone at Dish was on the level.
DirecTV has a SD unit w/TiVo and the nice thing about it is that it stores the MPEG straight from the dish to the hard drive, there is no re-encoding. Hopefully, both of the upcoming HD PVR's will follow suit.
Of the two, I'd probably prefer the DirecTV/TiVo, just because I've heard so many great things about TiVo.
But only Dish offers pr0n channels that aren't PPV, so there isn't really any comparison.
Because the more advanced we become, the drunkerer we get.
C'mon, we see this already in our field. The work I'm doing in software allows my company to automate work that once required hundreds if not thousands of people to perform. I have my job, but look at the number of people I've displaced.
I agree that there is a constant amount of work that needs to be performed. The problem is that as time goes on, fewer and fewer people become more and more productive, and the trend will only continue for as long as technology continues to advance.
Robots that can do everything we can do is an obvious endpoint. And it wouldn't be all that bad if we are all able to enjoy a good standard of living as a result, but anyone whose seen the human monkey in action knows that won't be the case.
The real issue is power. Those who control the machines will in effect control the people those machines serve. So when the decision as to how to use these machines arises, they will invariably be deployed so as to most benefit those who have the power.
The future for the rest of humanity is in spare parts and sex toys. At least, until they can synthesize human organs and tissues on demand, and create fully realistic sexual experience out of the ether.
When at last they are able to do these things, then the rest of us will have lost all value to our keepers. And there will be nothing to stop them from seeing to our extermination.
So use your penis while you can. Use it, while it's still yours.