Nope. Really shoddy research there. Or reach-search:
Orders of merit which still confer privileges of knighthood are sometimes referred to as orders of knighthood. As a consequence of being not an order of chivalry but orders of merit or decorations, some republican honours have thus avoided the traditional structure found in medieval orders of chivalry and created new ones instead, e.g. the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany
So you want to have the choice to let Adobe tell you which features of Apple's OS your apps can use.
That has so much wrong with it, I don't even know where to begin.
Okay, how about here - Can you explain how having the choice to use interpreted-language-X
restricts me more than not having it available as a choice?
Who said that. So go limit yourself. Please. You have the choice so take it. Go put yourself into a ghetto of dependence on a company - as long as it isn't Apple, you are FREE!
The underlying issue involves control, nothing else. More importantly, who has it over what I can run on my hardware. Apple bluntly tells us
what we can run. Microsoft "only" wants to tell us what we can't run. And Linux just hands us the keys and asks us not to wake it up if we get
in after 2am.
Personally, I'll take "choice" every time. YMMV.
So you want to have the choice to let Adobe tell you which features of Apple's OS your apps can use. Maybe you should use a more open system then.
Your original comment specifically brought up "Microsoft Windows" as a direct comparison to the iPad (iPhone OS).
No, his original comment was to a comparison of Apple and Microsoft "Apple wants me to be dependent on Apple. [...] At least Microsoft allows me the freedom to be "tasteless"."
"No, he is protesting that Flash is pushing a closed standard on the web"
Apple's hate of Flash goes beyond the web, also disallowing and affects development of apps on the iphone and related products.
But hey, thanks for playing and putting your hate of Flash above that of fairness.
Then again, I see a lot of people who say they run linux on their desktop but have an iphone. There are always those that will choose the "best" tool irrespective of the merits of its underlying development. Your choice, yes, but it doesn't change that the iphone is to the mobile market today what Windows was to the PC in the 90s.
It's not as much hate as disdain. And of course they don't want people to write native iPhone apps in Flash - because it still lacks most functions of the existing iPhone OS, let alone any of the new ones announced for 4.0. If you want to lock yourself into a development environment for a multi-touch device that doesn't even have that can't even handle gestures yet, and that doesn't support most of the features of your OS, you can write your Android apps with Flash - I heard that a year after it was first announced, it should be here real soon now.
It's quite entertaining that you want to sell me the lowest common denominator across many devices as the best tool for a specific one.
If this is all plausible, why won't Apple support Theora?
What for? Theora isn't used by more than a coule of ten-thousand geeks, there is no hardware support to speak of. And the patent question still hasn't been answered yet - exactly because of its miniscule use. OTOH H.264 is used by many millions, supported by a wide range of hardware and softwareproducts, part of BluRay, etc. - IOW anybody who still has a submarine patent on it must be standing in a hibernation pod next to Philip J. Fry. And because of just one patent, Apple can use it for free. And that doesn't even cover that H.264 simply still has better quality than Theora.
And even if Theora actual got more usage, Apple can still support them then- heck, there's a Quicktime Component from Xiph for years now that gives (among other things) Safari the ability to play HTML5 ogg videos, without Apple having to do anything.
So what could Apple possibly gain from supporting or even pushing Theora? The good will of the Apple-Haters? Yeah, right.
I think you're absolutely correct in this. I wonder if that's the biggest reason Steve Jobs does not want Flash on the iOwnYou products, to try to decrease YouTube's market share.
Yeah, that's why the iPhone from the beginning (even before third party apps) came with an YouTube app that used H.264.
Oh, BTW, does Android have Flash yet? Ohh, soon. Beta next week, for over a year now, right?
Looks to me, Steve Jobs just knows there are people looking into suing Theora. Not Steve Jobs (or Apple) is going to sue Theora.
Even if that's the case he made the announcement in the form of a FUD attack on Theora and the other open source CODECs.
Okay, stop right there - he made the "announcement" in the form of an email directly to the guy who wrote an "open" email to him, and who then published that answer without asking Jobs first because his email was open.
Many people (including theora developers) close their eyes and cover their ears, pretending it's patent free.
Looking prevents you from presenting both the defenses of obviousness or "there's only one logical way to do it." It's called a "clean-room implementation". It's the reason your computer is so cheap - because without a clean-room bios, PCs wouldn't have become commodity items.
So what does copyright have to do with patents? Cleanroom me this.
Perhaps if they looked and avoided them they wouldn't have anything to worry about?
As noted in the summary, the patent holders seem keen to insinuate that you simply can't do video codecs without infringing on their patents, without actually saying so plainly.
Maybe they simply do this because they haven't seen one yet that wasn't, and nobody is going to bet their business on Theora being the one. Why don't you, you could be rich.
All video codecs are covered by patents. A patent pool is being assembled to go after Theora and other “open source” codecs now.
Assembled by who, exactly? On what grounds? In regard to which patents in particular? It's easy to make claims, Steve. Proving them is harder.
Ohh, proving/disproving is pretty simple and hard at the same time - just get Theora to be used by so many people and software and hardware that attacking it would actually have a chance of making some money to the patent holders. So all you have to do is pump up usage by about a hundred times.
I can say without a doubt in my mind that any H.264 implementation infringes on patent clauses for patents not in the patent pool... all software of non trivial complexity infringes on patents.
Suuuuure. So why haven't the patent holders sued yet? Not used in enough devices? Not used for enough streaming video? You know, I'm talking about the market penetration worth billions that H.264 has (and Ogg Theora hasn't), that would actually make the patents worth something.
IOW if you get killed while selling stuff at a store or making burgers
Correction: "selling or making burgers" - selling stuff is a different section, where there are actually more homicides (absolute and relative) than in law enforcement.
Your interpretation of the statistics does not appear to take proportionality into account.
If Job A has 6 fatalities and 100 workers while Job B has 3 fatalities and 10 workers, Job B is more dangerous since the odds of death are higher on a per worker basis.
While you are right that law enforcement is a more dangerous occupation, you are for the wrong reasons. Even if we accept your inherent claim that there are more "law enforcement workers" than people in "retail sales, food preparation and sales supervisors" - you are obviously overlooking that the proportionality is taken into account by the given numbers: " The figure shown is the percent of the total fatalities for that occupation group."
Let's recap: of the 24 workers classified as "retail sales, food preparation and sales supervisors" who died at work, 62% (15) were victim of homicide. Of the 144 law enforcement workers, 33% (47 or 48) were victims of homicide, while 38% were killed on the highway. IOW if you get killed while selling stuff at a store or making burgers, you probably were murdered, while as a cop you are more likely to have died in a car crash than by a bullet.
In some states a policeman will pull a gun on you if you get out of your car when he pulls you over. THEY think it's aggressive behavior, likely because it's hard to draw a gun -- either you or he -- seated in a car.
It must be in those states where they never watch any movies. You know, the ones where, while the cops walk over, the driver gets his gun from the glove compartment or simply the passenger seat and then shoots the cop in the face.
Really, the common sense that is taught in pretty much all education is don't do things to give police a reason to wonder whether or not they should beat you, because they are within their rights to beat you well before that, as they should be, because what if you have a gun?
So if you had a gun, why would you wait to use it until an officer came close enough to beat you, let alone actually let him beat you? And wouldn't it be easier to draw a gun undetected while in your car than outside?
Of course you're going to get a bunch of corporate doublespeak out of Jobs, attempting to disguise base corporate greed under some sort of philosophical cover. But we all know that Flash apps would cut into Apple's bottom line, and it all comes down to that.
Steve doesn't like competition. Steve does like money. And Steve calls the shots.
Which bottom line The one where they are perfectly happy with people using web apps on the iPhone - and people have slammed them for it? Or the one where they would lose money if they allowed apps written in Flash into the app store? Tell you what, I'm preparing for a hundred year sleep - wake me when you start making sense.
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You see, it says "knighthood" right there.
So you want to have the choice to let Adobe tell you which features of Apple's OS your apps can use. That has so much wrong with it, I don't even know where to begin. Okay, how about here - Can you explain how having the choice to use interpreted-language-X restricts me more than not having it available as a choice?
Who said that. So go limit yourself. Please. You have the choice so take it. Go put yourself into a ghetto of dependence on a company - as long as it isn't Apple, you are FREE!
Here something i found also ...
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/042210-analyst-html5-far-from-killing.html
Let the blasting begin Mr AC :)
Let me say this for Mr. AC: as long as even the Openness Weenies will support a closed system over an open one, of course Flash will win over HTML5.
The underlying issue involves control, nothing else. More importantly, who has it over what I can run on my hardware. Apple bluntly tells us what we can run. Microsoft "only" wants to tell us what we can't run. And Linux just hands us the keys and asks us not to wake it up if we get in after 2am. Personally, I'll take "choice" every time. YMMV.
So you want to have the choice to let Adobe tell you which features of Apple's OS your apps can use. Maybe you should use a more open system then.
Your original comment specifically brought up "Microsoft Windows" as a direct comparison to the iPad (iPhone OS).
No, his original comment was to a comparison of Apple and Microsoft "Apple wants me to be dependent on Apple. [...] At least Microsoft allows me the freedom to be "tasteless"."
"No, he is protesting that Flash is pushing a closed standard on the web"
Apple's hate of Flash goes beyond the web, also disallowing and affects development of apps on the iphone and related products.
But hey, thanks for playing and putting your hate of Flash above that of fairness.
Then again, I see a lot of people who say they run linux on their desktop but have an iphone. There are always those that will choose the "best" tool irrespective of the merits of its underlying development. Your choice, yes, but it doesn't change that the iphone is to the mobile market today what Windows was to the PC in the 90s.
It's not as much hate as disdain. And of course they don't want people to write native iPhone apps in Flash - because it still lacks most functions of the existing iPhone OS, let alone any of the new ones announced for 4.0. If you want to lock yourself into a development environment for a multi-touch device that doesn't even have that can't even handle gestures yet, and that doesn't support most of the features of your OS, you can write your Android apps with Flash - I heard that a year after it was first announced, it should be here real soon now.
It's quite entertaining that you want to sell me the lowest common denominator across many devices as the best tool for a specific one.
No, it's like people are complaining that their refrigerator can't keep chicken cold, it only works with beef.
No, they are complaining because it can keep chicken cold, but not half a cattle.
If this is all plausible, why won't Apple support Theora?
What for? Theora isn't used by more than a coule of ten-thousand geeks, there is no hardware support to speak of. And the patent question still hasn't been answered yet - exactly because of its miniscule use. OTOH H.264 is used by many millions, supported by a wide range of hardware and softwareproducts, part of BluRay, etc. - IOW anybody who still has a submarine patent on it must be standing in a hibernation pod next to Philip J. Fry. And because of just one patent, Apple can use it for free. And that doesn't even cover that H.264 simply still has better quality than Theora.
And even if Theora actual got more usage, Apple can still support them then- heck, there's a Quicktime Component from Xiph for years now that gives (among other things) Safari the ability to play HTML5 ogg videos, without Apple having to do anything.
So what could Apple possibly gain from supporting or even pushing Theora? The good will of the Apple-Haters? Yeah, right.
Facts and reality need not apply.
We're talking about Steve Jobs, he of the Reality Distortion Field(tm). It goes without saying that facts and reality need not apply.
The funny thing about Steve's RDF is that it works the strongest around the Apple Haters, they get completely detached from reality.
I think you're absolutely correct in this. I wonder if that's the biggest reason Steve Jobs does not want Flash on the iOwnYou products, to try to decrease YouTube's market share.
Yeah, that's why the iPhone from the beginning (even before third party apps) came with an YouTube app that used H.264.
Oh, BTW, does Android have Flash yet? Ohh, soon. Beta next week, for over a year now, right?
Looks to me, Steve Jobs just knows there are people looking into suing Theora. Not Steve Jobs (or Apple) is going to sue Theora.
Even if that's the case he made the announcement in the form of a FUD attack on Theora and the other open source CODECs.
Okay, stop right there - he made the "announcement" in the form of an email directly to the guy who wrote an "open" email to him, and who then published that answer without asking Jobs first because his email was open.
Looking prevents you from presenting both the defenses of obviousness or "there's only one logical way to do it." It's called a "clean-room implementation". It's the reason your computer is so cheap - because without a clean-room bios, PCs wouldn't have become commodity items.
So what does copyright have to do with patents? Cleanroom me this.
As noted in the summary, the patent holders seem keen to insinuate that you simply can't do video codecs without infringing on their patents, without actually saying so plainly.
Maybe they simply do this because they haven't seen one yet that wasn't, and nobody is going to bet their business on Theora being the one. Why don't you, you could be rich.
All video codecs are covered by patents. A patent pool is being assembled to go after Theora and other “open source” codecs now.
Assembled by who, exactly? On what grounds? In regard to which patents in particular? It's easy to make claims, Steve. Proving them is harder.
Ohh, proving/disproving is pretty simple and hard at the same time - just get Theora to be used by so many people and software and hardware that attacking it would actually have a chance of making some money to the patent holders. So all you have to do is pump up usage by about a hundred times.
If someone threatens the profitability of your product - exterminate them.
Now if only you could tell us which of Apple's products Theora threatens the profitability of, then - maybe - your paranoid rambling would make sense.
I can say without a doubt in my mind that any H.264 implementation infringes on patent clauses for patents not in the patent pool ... all software of non trivial complexity infringes on patents.
Suuuuure. So why haven't the patent holders sued yet? Not used in enough devices? Not used for enough streaming video? You know, I'm talking about the market penetration worth billions that H.264 has (and Ogg Theora hasn't), that would actually make the patents worth something.
The biggest pusher of open standards on the web? That must be why they support Theora in Safari for the HTML5 video tag.
Works fine here. You just need the proper codec. Granted, not on an iPhone, but still.
IOW if you get killed while selling stuff at a store or making burgers
Correction: "selling or making burgers" - selling stuff is a different section, where there are actually more homicides (absolute and relative) than in law enforcement.
Your interpretation of the statistics does not appear to take proportionality into account. If Job A has 6 fatalities and 100 workers while Job B has 3 fatalities and 10 workers, Job B is more dangerous since the odds of death are higher on a per worker basis.
While you are right that law enforcement is a more dangerous occupation, you are for the wrong reasons. Even if we accept your inherent claim that there are more "law enforcement workers" than people in "retail sales, food preparation and sales supervisors" - you are obviously overlooking that the proportionality is taken into account by the given numbers: " The figure shown is the percent of the total fatalities for that occupation group."
Let's recap: of the 24 workers classified as "retail sales, food preparation and sales supervisors" who died at work, 62% (15) were victim of homicide. Of the 144 law enforcement workers, 33% (47 or 48) were victims of homicide, while 38% were killed on the highway. IOW if you get killed while selling stuff at a store or making burgers, you probably were murdered, while as a cop you are more likely to have died in a car crash than by a bullet.
In some states a policeman will pull a gun on you if you get out of your car when he pulls you over. THEY think it's aggressive behavior, likely because it's hard to draw a gun -- either you or he -- seated in a car.
It must be in those states where they never watch any movies. You know, the ones where, while the cops walk over, the driver gets his gun from the glove compartment or simply the passenger seat and then shoots the cop in the face.
Really, the common sense that is taught in pretty much all education is don't do things to give police a reason to wonder whether or not they should beat you, because they are within their rights to beat you well before that, as they should be, because what if you have a gun?
So if you had a gun, why would you wait to use it until an officer came close enough to beat you, let alone actually let him beat you? And wouldn't it be easier to draw a gun undetected while in your car than outside?
The PC is fine. What's coming to an end is Apple's desktop era, because Apple really isn't in anything for the long run.
That's why they sold only 1.147 millionen desktops last quarter, compared to a staggering 818 thousand same quarter last year.
http://www.apple.com/games/trailers/starcraft2/
13's mac have only core 2 and on board video at prices where you can get i3 i5 with better video cards that have there own ram with other systems.
That's why they must be outselling them.
Of course you're going to get a bunch of corporate doublespeak out of Jobs, attempting to disguise base corporate greed under some sort of philosophical cover. But we all know that Flash apps would cut into Apple's bottom line, and it all comes down to that.
Steve doesn't like competition. Steve does like money. And Steve calls the shots.
Which bottom line The one where they are perfectly happy with people using web apps on the iPhone - and people have slammed them for it? Or the one where they would lose money if they allowed apps written in Flash into the app store? Tell you what, I'm preparing for a hundred year sleep - wake me when you start making sense.