Oh oh oh oh, and tell me Mr. Smart, how are you going to find out they're using illegal crypto if said illegal crypto is only transmitted by being encrypted a second time with legal, backdoor'd crypto?
2) Terrorists using alternative unbreakable crypto is NOT an argument against key escrow. Requiring all communication using strong encryption to use key escrow has the flip side of making other forms of encrypted communication illegal. Discovery that a suspect is using illegal/unbreakable encryption would be enough to arrest them and detain them indefinitely for contempt of court if they failed to turn over the keys to their crypto
Oh oh oh oh, and tell me Mr. Smart, how are you going to find you they're using illegal crypto if said illegal crypto is only transmitted through legal, backdoored crypto?
Your comparison is invalid, if not a complete fallacy.
First of all, you don't "buy" a driver's license at the DMV. You are granted one, and (possibly) pay a fee. No, it's not the same as buying. In some states/countries driver's license are free or at a symbolic price (say, $1). You may be forbidden to get a driver's license for medical reason or legal reasons (like prior drunk driving).
Just because software license and driving licenses are both "licenses" doesn't mean they're the same. You're just playing with words.
"How do you think a sysadmin (usually 1 per 200 employees) feels when he's been a victim of such an attack? "
First of all, justice should *not* be about feelings. "Feelings" lead to horrors like the "death penalty", a punishment that has been long forgotten in developped countries, but that is still in effect in backwards and reactionary places such as "Texas" and "Afghanistan".
Then, I can tell you how that sysadmin feels. "Holy fucking shit I forgot to remove that BIND piece of shit -- AGAIN".
A fertilizer plant blew up in Toulouse last week. Buildings have been destroyed in about half a mile radius, and no glass window in a 10 mile radius is still standing! 300 tons of fertilizer blew up initially, probably even more in the neighbouring buildings, and a rocket solid fuel manufactoring facility got blewn up as well. 30 schools destroyed in the area.
I wonder how much bigger this was. Weird shit. People thought it was a terrorist attack, but it might just be an accident.
First time I hear this said about the "Northern Alliance". You're posting anonymously, therefore it's safe to assume that you're simply liying, not to say slandering.
Mormons have a lot in common with Talibans: they are polygamous, they have stone age religious superstitions, and you wonder how such stupidity could still exist in 2001.
You can write proprietary software for Linux, as long as you don't link and/or incorporate GPL'd code in your program.
You can link to LGPL'd code (such as Gnome/GTK/glibc) without problem, it's the purpose of those.
Some software is on Berkeley license, such as X11, and you can do anything you want with that.
Executing an external GPL program (through "exec") from a proprietary program is permitted. Calling the Linux kernel (which is GPL'd)system calls is not a violation of GPL either.
Lastly, the output of GPL'd program is not subject to GPL. This includes the output of GCC: you can compile any kind of programs with it.
Windows benefits from a positive feedback loop: they have 95% market share, therefore 95% of the apps get written for it, therefore they keep 95% market share.
Hmm, no. There is no comparison. Guns are inherently dangerous. A nutcase with a gun is dangerous. A nutcase with encryption is... well, nothing of interest.
"Before you talk about media indimidation, did you know that Arafat's Fatah faction and the Palestinian Police are keeping reporters in towns such as Nablus locked up in their hotels at gunpoint? They're threatening any reporter to takes pictures of the rallies celebrating horrible events of last week. One reporter who snuck a picture was taken to an officer and told his life would be in jeapordy if the picture was published. Some of these rallies to celebrate the events have 1500-2000 ppl attending. So don't start about media control over here. "
Yeah, and those journalists are never going to come back from Palestin, and therefore nobody will ever know about it. Or maybe they will but they will be too scared to talk about it... riiiight.
"France is desperately trying to displace ex-USSR as "The biggest friend of Arabs"; this is why they scream histerically about "Israeli aggression", even though it's clear that Arafat started the new war there."
Arrafat started the new war? Do you believe this, or are you just pulling it as a dirty rhetorical ploy?
Tell me again, what led to the current crisis. Was it not Sharon walking in the mosquee square (dunno about the english terminology for it), at a very inappropriate time?
By the way, why has Sharon pushed for more settlements in occupied territories, when said settlements are not actually needed, and are infringing on UN decisions?
And why is Sharon prohibiting Peres from meeting Arrafat? Why is he afraid of diplomacy?
In France, the people who foolishly sued Yahoo earlier this year are already jumping on the "fight terrorism" bandwagon. Guess what, they've found one (1!) pro-terrorism islamic site on the Internet, and well! it's enough to justify censorship, isn't it?
3. Stop harassing palestinians, acknowledge their right to have a country, give Israëlian arabs the equal rights they deserve, stop building colonies in Palestinian territory, comply with UN requests, and get rid of Sharon the fascist.
"Arafat is (or, at least, was) a terrorist in the past. Remember when all Israeli athletes were killed in the 1972 Olympics? That was the PLO, of which Arafat was in charge. Many many attacks led by PLO against Israel (and also Jordan, ironically) in the past. Maybe in his older years Arafat is seeking peace, but he has had a violent past (as has Sharon as well). "
Well, yeah, that was 30 years ago. And yes, it was bad. And yet we have to move on. Arrafat has moved on, as was acknowledged by the fact that he got the Nobel prize. Can you seriously claim that Arrafat is supporting terrorism at the moment?
I've visited that site already. BTW what "nation" is it referring to? USian nation? Well that's not mine, to begin with. Not my country, not my values, in gods I don't trust and money I don't worship.
*If* they are indeed the terroriss they're claimed to be, well, yes, killing them might be a solution. Are they really those terrorists? Or are they instead key palestinian authority figures, and targetted to weaken Arrafat's power.
My impression is that Sharon is playing with fire here, weakening Arrafat (and calling him a terrorsit or a "Bin Laden") is bound to give more legitimacy to the actual terrorist and violent factions of the Palestinian people, which in turn will justify Sharon's violent policy.
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Oh oh oh oh, and tell me Mr. Smart, how are you going to find out they're using illegal crypto if said illegal crypto is only transmitted by being encrypted a second time with legal, backdoor'd crypto?
2) Terrorists using alternative unbreakable crypto is NOT an argument against key escrow. Requiring all communication using strong encryption to use key escrow has the flip side of making other forms of encrypted communication illegal. Discovery that a suspect is using illegal/unbreakable encryption would be enough to arrest them and detain them indefinitely for contempt of court if they failed to turn over the keys to their crypto
Oh oh oh oh, and tell me Mr. Smart, how are you going to find you they're using illegal crypto if said illegal crypto is only transmitted through legal, backdoored crypto?
Your comparison is invalid, if not a complete fallacy.
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First of all, you don't "buy" a driver's license at the DMV. You are granted one, and (possibly) pay a fee. No, it's not the same as buying. In some states/countries driver's license are free or at a symbolic price (say, $1). You may be forbidden to get a driver's license for medical reason or legal reasons (like prior drunk driving).
Just because software license and driving licenses are both "licenses" doesn't mean they're the same. You're just playing with words.
Orange, apples
What's the way to hide from view for a terrorist? Disguise as a japanese tourist!!!
Let's arrest all japanese tourists! It worked well during WWII.
"How do you think a sysadmin (usually 1 per 200 employees) feels when he's been a victim of such an attack? "
First of all, justice should *not* be about feelings. "Feelings" lead to horrors like the "death penalty", a punishment that has been long forgotten in developped countries, but that is still in effect in backwards and reactionary places such as "Texas" and "Afghanistan".
Then, I can tell you how that sysadmin feels. "Holy fucking shit I forgot to remove that BIND piece of shit -- AGAIN".
" Can you see a federal judge throwing a 14 year old kid in prison for life because he DOS'd Yahoo? I just don't see that happening."
There's records of much worse happening. Esp. in the US. "OMFG IT'S A VIOLATION!!!!".
A fertilizer plant blew up in Toulouse last week. Buildings have been destroyed in about half a mile radius, and no glass window in a 10 mile radius is still standing! 300 tons of fertilizer blew up initially, probably even more in the neighbouring buildings, and a rocket solid fuel manufactoring facility got blewn up as well. 30 schools destroyed in the area.
I wonder how much bigger this was. Weird shit. People thought it was a terrorist attack, but it might just be an accident.
First time I hear this said about the "Northern Alliance". You're posting anonymously, therefore it's safe to assume that you're simply liying, not to say slandering.
Mormons have a lot in common with Talibans: they are polygamous, they have stone age religious superstitions, and you wonder how such stupidity could still exist in 2001.
Don't believe the AC, he's wrong.
You can write proprietary software for Linux, as long as you don't link and/or incorporate GPL'd code in your program.
You can link to LGPL'd code (such as Gnome/GTK/glibc) without problem, it's the purpose of those.
Some software is on Berkeley license, such as X11, and you can do anything you want with that.
Executing an external GPL program (through "exec") from a proprietary program is permitted. Calling the Linux kernel (which is GPL'd)system calls is not a violation of GPL either.
Lastly, the output of GPL'd program is not subject to GPL. This includes the output of GCC: you can compile any kind of programs with it.
Windows benefits from a positive feedback loop: they have 95% market share, therefore 95% of the apps get written for it, therefore they keep 95% market share.
Even you could understand this.
Hmm, no. There is no comparison. Guns are inherently dangerous. A nutcase with a gun is dangerous. A nutcase with encryption is ... well, nothing of interest.
.. and the "terrorists" will just have to encrypt twice, and/or use stegano.
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"But, if they're caught doing this, they'll get a fine!!!"
I'm sure the fanatics who are willing to kill themselves for the djihad will care about getting caught using illegal encryption
So was the World Trade Center.
During gulf war, some radio stations reffered to Massive Attack as "Massive", period.
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"Before you talk about media indimidation, did you know that Arafat's Fatah faction and the Palestinian Police are keeping reporters in towns such as Nablus locked up in their hotels at gunpoint? They're threatening any reporter to takes pictures of the rallies celebrating horrible events of last week. One reporter who snuck a picture was taken to an officer and told his life would be in jeapordy if the picture was published. Some of these rallies to celebrate the events have 1500-2000 ppl attending. So don't start about media control over here. "
... riiiight.
Yeah, and those journalists are never going to come back from Palestin, and therefore nobody will ever know about it. Or maybe they will but they will be too scared to talk about it
Stop the bullshit.
"France is desperately trying to displace ex-USSR as "The biggest friend of Arabs"; this is why they scream histerically about "Israeli aggression", even though it's clear that Arafat started the new war there."
Arrafat started the new war? Do you believe this, or are you just pulling it as a dirty rhetorical ploy?
Tell me again, what led to the current crisis. Was it not Sharon walking in the mosquee square (dunno about the english terminology for it), at a very inappropriate time?
By the way, why has Sharon pushed for more settlements in occupied territories, when said settlements are not actually needed, and are infringing on UN decisions?
And why is Sharon prohibiting Peres from meeting Arrafat? Why is he afraid of diplomacy?
In France, the people who foolishly sued Yahoo earlier this year are already jumping on the "fight terrorism" bandwagon. Guess what, they've found one (1!) pro-terrorism islamic site on the Internet, and well! it's enough to justify censorship, isn't it?
Israël has a 3rd choice:
3. Stop harassing palestinians, acknowledge their right to have a country, give Israëlian arabs the equal rights they deserve, stop building colonies in Palestinian territory, comply with UN requests, and get rid of Sharon the fascist.
"Arafat is (or, at least, was) a terrorist in the past. Remember when all Israeli athletes were killed in the 1972 Olympics? That was the PLO, of which Arafat was in charge. Many many attacks led by PLO against Israel (and also Jordan, ironically) in the past. Maybe in his older years Arafat is seeking peace, but he has had a violent past (as has Sharon as well). "
Well, yeah, that was 30 years ago. And yes, it was bad. And yet we have to move on. Arrafat has moved on, as was acknowledged by the fact that he got the Nobel prize. Can you seriously claim that Arrafat is supporting terrorism at the moment?
"But do you speak out just as vociferously when innocent Israeli citizens are killed in terrorist actions?"
What a spin. Now I'm a terrorist sympathiser.
I've visited that site already. BTW what "nation" is it referring to? USian nation? Well that's not mine, to begin with. Not my country, not my values, in gods I don't trust and money I don't worship.
*If* they are indeed the terroriss they're claimed to be, well, yes, killing them might be a solution. Are they really those terrorists? Or are they instead key palestinian authority figures, and targetted to weaken Arrafat's power.
My impression is that Sharon is playing with fire here, weakening Arrafat (and calling him a terrorsit or a "Bin Laden") is bound to give more legitimacy to the actual terrorist and violent factions of the Palestinian people, which in turn will justify Sharon's violent policy.
I'm not saying there is no antisemitism. I'm not even saying that Palestinians and arabs in general are not way too often guilty of antisemitism.
"But, as per your questions of antisemitism, quotes like this show it to be more prevalent than you'd perhaps like to think."
This does not prove anything. You pick an antisemitic quote, and there you go! Antisemitism is therefore widespread. What a fallacy.