Don't forget how Facefarm helps people get elected and are now trying to help those in office communicate with constituents (http://news.valubit.com/new-facebook-features-allow-politicians-to-connect-with-constituents/). I think Mark is secretly the spawn of Oliver Stone but the opposite side of the same coin. Might sound good to some, but absolute power corrupts absolutely.
You are absolutely correct about the high school thing, but I think you need to learn more about algorithms and realize how broad of a term it is. It's math on paper, it's used to solve Rubik's Cubes for example, and is used in computing. From all the responses above, I doubt anyone really bothered to do any research before commenting and just wanted to be "on screen." So, I gave a few links below to hopefully lessen the burden.
This website started in 2005, so unless they saw Nokia brick phones as the way of the future, I really doubt they thought they'd get anywhere close to that many games. Matter of fact, you can blame all (32 and 64) smart phones for this because no one ever seems to close out of their apps. The popular consensus is that most of chess playing traffic comes from old-school Linux users anyway. They could just have games close and delete automatically after a period of time. And, two billion people are never going to be on Chess.com at the same time. But let's say they are, then just use multiple servers. Don't blame the bits for this because the main audience is upgrading anytime soon.
It's simple economic warfare; build things that only last as long as you think your target will last before a recession. Then, use the country's patriotic, yet divided, narcissism to make a deal that looks like a compromise. It's not. Well played China.
I second that. I think people like Elon say things like this to make morons feel as though whatever Silicon Valley is pushing is inevitable and therefore mind as well assimilate. Or, it's a last ditch marketing tactic to target an audience that knows better, ie almost everyone in tech that cares about privacy and security. Make us feel little because we don't want to be a part of the social Darwinism.
These are'nt just rantings of a madman, though as a Linux user, I am pissed. If you check the dates, you can see that as soon as Micro$oft found a better way to get into the mobile market, using Intel to help, they somehow got Ubuntu Touch to the shanty state it is in now. It has nothing to do with demand because I remember how badly all us Linux users wanted it to be a success and all the orders made for tablets. Matter of fact, for a short period, more people were ordering Ubuntu-based mobile devices than Window$ phones. They saw this and waved their magic patent wand with manufacturers and in my eyes made Canonical its "bitch," which is why I will never use anything Ubuntu-based ever again; I cannot trust them anymore, which is sad because I really like Xubuntu. Micro$oft is the king of backstabbing and will just do the same to Intel, placing them in their "emulator" pool they got going on now so they can maintain their "Big Brother" cloud system.
The future is more likely to be server APIs while everyone turns into over glorified interface designers. Schools are teaching Python for calculations the same way they used to teach BASIC. But, there's no money it and quite literally because of its license. So, it will be C and Python on desktop and PHP and HTML5 on servers. I wish more people liked Python because it's a whole lot easier to modify. People complain about speed with Python, but imagine having to edit or add variables in C and then recompiling it just to run it every time; it would take longer. On top of which, Visual Basic and M$ want you to use C#, which then prevents or causes problems with cross platform compatibility. Blender is all Python and it works just fine and people use it for all kinds of things, including having a built-in game engine.
the glorious opportunity to be embraced by our benevolent Micro$oft on both new and old machines to relentlessly guide us toward the cloud. The CLOUD! The cloud choose who will go and who will stay....(Toy Story). Also, I bet if you did a bit of digging and experimenting, you'd find that 32-bit Window$ 10 has fewer vulnerabilities and runs colder. No, you won't be playing new video games or graphic designing, but they probably serve a lot like what Raspberry Pi users do with their stuff. Simple things without a lot gunk you don't need. 64-bit typically uses more RAM and CPU/GPU, as well as having software larger in size. It's also possible that the government was dumb enough to have contracts with them but too broke to upgrade everything.
Micro$oft is trying to create "emulators" for everything to keep people that don't know any better hooked into their control. Figuratively speaking, they only allow smaller Russian dolls and they make sure that they are always the largest one. They did it with Linux, which is also being emulated (GNU/NT; no kernel) and now they are doing it to Intel. They join the Linux foundation and "help" Canonical and then a few months after the mobile version of Ubuntu was starting to actual look like it would be successful, tablets being sold like crazy, Ubuntu respins it like it was a failure. Bullshit. They were about to do better than the M$ mobile junk and Canonical got a phone call. Fast forward to Intel's problem and take a look at how closely Intel and M$ have been working together in the past few months. Now, M$ wants to emulate them too and on their...*trumpets*...mobile phone. Masters of backstabbing.
I didn't know whether to if it would have been better use "code" or "compile" jack ass, but now I know people are going to nitpick to death. Contrary to you claim I use both Mac and Linux and have made a few Linux distros for both personal use and for others. As far as to whether if anyone still uses FatELF, you once again take something I said way too far. I have no idea what bone I picked with you, but do yourself a favor and be a dick to someone else. If you do have the time your tech majesty, do feel free to go to my website https:theouterlinux.com and look at how much I don't know about things. "Bronstrup Creative is on the forefront of web technology..." Not really; your website looks like a scam.
I know of the advantages, but those advantages were not there when they started pushing 64-bit with Vista. Eventually, GPU's got better (the first was in 1999) but that took until Windows 7 got released to have mattered enough to want to upgrade. That's why I say it was originally a marketing tactic. Even so, I have 32-bit Linux distros running on my computers and never get passed 2 GB on most days. After logging in, they only need 300 MB of RAM. What I have noticed is that 64-bit computers use more RAM, so I have yet to understand the trade off as a normal user that doesn't play video games. I sometimes use Blender for 3D modeling on my 9 year old laptop with 128 MB video, and I can still get up to 150K faces without the frame rate dropping too much.
Facefarm helps politicians get elected and then once elected they help them network. Hmmmm....I wonder what that sounds like? Oliver Stone would be so proud.
Right now you can get 32-bit binaries, but I was referring to the Linux distros themselves no longer making 32-bit builds. You probably wont see anymore of them unless in an archive like ibiblio in a year from now. Some websites at the end of this year may still have links to 32-bit builds, but it'll be "Classic" versions until they decide to remove them completely when they update their website. I'm sure Github will still have a few here and there, though I don't know if anyone still bothers to code for fat or universal binaries anymore.
I meant on the operating system level. Most Linux distros have decided to not build 64-bit versions anymore. Most repositories have also been dropping their 32-bit packages, save a few such as the kernel security updates. Even the custom repositories made by SuseStudio users (custom OpenSUSE-based distro builder) with 32-bit packages are falling off the map, including 42.1. And when you talk to developers, whether it is from Github, Reddit, Twitter, etc., all of them have told me that no one is volunteering anymore to support 32-bit versions of their software. Come November, you may experience your last 32-bit updates, or at least the important ones. You will of course have a few volunteers out there to keep up the good fight, but who knows what's going to be left to matter. If all the libraries that proprietary software steals as their backbone becomes 64-bit, then 32-bit doesn't have a chance.
A 64-bit operating system, an archetype that is known widely by developers and IT to support both 32 and 64-bit, is now going to purposely block 32-bit when we all know it will work? You know what this really is right? I have tried to tell both Linux and Window$ communities either here or on Reddit a while back about how 64-bit was nothing more than a tactic to get people to buy new hardware. The dropping of 32-bit for Linux is what actually made me angry. Now that everyone has an iPhone, maybe people will start to see when they have to buy iPhone 7's or later because their iPhone 5's no longer get updates and services block them from their network. You could get a 6, but very few would. It's a sales tactic. On top of which, if you pay attention to this kind of thing, most security vulnerabilities certain agencies have developed software for or even Dirty Cow for that matter, are primarily 64-bit. I think Apple security is going to get much worse over the next year. With 64-bit you've got way too much going on to be able to monitor like you can a simple 32-bit because things like GPU, which hackers love because of it enables faster brute force attacks.
Thank you for the change of tone and finally saying something worth biting into. That's all I ever really wanted. Write like you are doing now next time instead of insults. I like seeing real discussions; I have no need to be right as long you can throw a good argument "punch," but I do have a problem with name calling when we are all adults.
I wonder what would happen if you were capable of formulating arguments without insults? Let's go to the Neighborhood of Make Believe (ding ding): "If you were qualified to be "skeptical" you would write a rebuttal paper and submit it for review. That goes double for anything involving modeling. This particular paper does not present new techniques so far as I have read, but analyzing spectroscopic data is a fairly interesting topic on its own. I assume you've read it, of course. More generally, studying exoplanets provides information on what types of star systems are able to be formed, and gives us some insight into the formation of our own solar system. If you're searching after a practical application however, again, the fault is with your own understanding: that's not the goal of research."
You'd think an educated human being wrote that. Why would that have been so hard for you to do in the first place?
Or better yet, just shorten it to: "Studying exoplanets provides information on what types of star systems are able to be formed, and gives us some insight into the formation of our own solar system." But instead, you decided to go with the third grade name calling tactic. Why should I or any mature adult take anything you say seriously when you do that?
Realist method: Hear me out; buy a pistol. A lot of airlines actually allow unloaded pistols as baggage if they are locked in their own boxes in which they only have the key. However, they then allow you to lock you luggage that contains this locked box with the gun inside. You could then put your laptop in with it, with your own external lock, to which no TSA agent in a busy airport is going to bother to break open. The gunbox is specifically designed to let scanners know what's up.
The more fun method:Bring a typewriter into 12 hour flights. If they want to see your "data,: hand them your ink reels.
This is first time I'm seeing it. Looks like a genuine concern to me, and I probably wouldn't be "all over it" if it wasn't for the much worse responses that actually do seem to prove AC's point. A lot of name calling and no real substance.
I mention that people are afraid to question because of looking ignorant and being paired with those in politics. You site an aip page on global warming, which has nothing to do with astronomy or anything I've said. You're the actual moron and doing nothing but proving my point. IF you are capable of doing anything but name calling and misplaced logic, fee free to stop by again. I would love to hear a counter-argument involving the ACTUAL subject at hand, astronomy if you forgot and my two-cents covers a lot more than global warming in this particular thread, to which I don't dispute at all. So, what would the point of a rebuttal be in the first place? OP and I argue its value, not its validity. But as a side-note, if alluding to global warming is all you have in your arsenal for every time someone questions research, then it's just you and everyone else in the logical fallacy club trying to not look ignorant, as if political correctness has anything to do with science; it's a social issue and tell your people to not bring their baggage into science. Your "Think of the children" mentality won't get you far in any real science community. All your moronic millennial culture are capable of doing is turning facts into trends with absolutely no understanding of how it works, save a Bill Nye episode on Netflix and whatever Facefarm throws at them every morning. I would NEVER want to cure skepticism. No one that cares about science ever would. Faith in science is an oxymoron and the ideologies it's creating, as if a religion, are very dangerous. You are supposed pursue knowledge, you don't just let it be handed to you.
"The statements on this site represent the views of the author and are not positions endorsed by the American Institute of Physics." That's at the bottom of your sited page by the way. I spend 7.5 years in college and you spend 7 seconds googling. Congrats.
AC, I would mod you up if I could. Platforms for healthy skepticism are very rare these days. All you did was ask a simple yet genuine question that should be allowed to remain for intelligent discussion. Unfortunately, 99% of Slashdotters take astronomy to heart, turning it into an almost religion and therefore start throwing stones, only to make those in politics we are all unhappy with right now, look no worse. The truth is, most people here are techies only and actually know very little of the subject they are trying to defend.
But to answer your question, it does not nor ever will affect anyone at all. On top of which, the word use of "alien world" is cleverly used to suggest life, which is one of very few things left in this field driving people to invent and try new things to answer questions we have had for thousands of years. There was a time in history in which our focus was on the physics of our own planet. But, fast-forward a few hundred years, we go to the moon and allowed conspiracy theorists to create curiosity around the same time because of things like Area 51 and because reality sucks. Cowboys are replaced by spacemen. Now, you have people trapped in theories that will never be proven, and it will only get worse because much like what we did during the Cold War, we will use that same hope to get us through these difficult times. Space centers know how important they are for creating a new generation of freethinkers and inventors and will push anything they can to keep going.
But quick tip, don't use "...will prove I'm right..." because if you want to argue and not have ad hominem responses, you cannot take the high ground in a way that uses absolutes. Only those that already have a significant standing in a scientific community can do that, even though it looks crass. It makes it look like you have to defend something that you believe should be obvious to others.
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Don't forget how Facefarm helps people get elected and are now trying to help those in office communicate with constituents (http://news.valubit.com/new-facebook-features-allow-politicians-to-connect-with-constituents/). I think Mark is secretly the spawn of Oliver Stone but the opposite side of the same coin. Might sound good to some, but absolute power corrupts absolutely.
You are absolutely correct about the high school thing, but I think you need to learn more about algorithms and realize how broad of a term it is. It's math on paper, it's used to solve Rubik's Cubes for example, and is used in computing. From all the responses above, I doubt anyone really bothered to do any research before commenting and just wanted to be "on screen." So, I gave a few links below to hopefully lessen the burden.
https://www.wired.com/insights/2014/09/artificial-intelligence-algorithms-2/
http://www.artificialintelligencealgorithms.com/
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-artificial-intelligence-and-algorithms
This website started in 2005, so unless they saw Nokia brick phones as the way of the future, I really doubt they thought they'd get anywhere close to that many games. Matter of fact, you can blame all (32 and 64) smart phones for this because no one ever seems to close out of their apps. The popular consensus is that most of chess playing traffic comes from old-school Linux users anyway. They could just have games close and delete automatically after a period of time. And, two billion people are never going to be on Chess.com at the same time. But let's say they are, then just use multiple servers. Don't blame the bits for this because the main audience is upgrading anytime soon.
Seriously? Hackers? Mice? GUI? That's funny.
It's simple economic warfare; build things that only last as long as you think your target will last before a recession. Then, use the country's patriotic, yet divided, narcissism to make a deal that looks like a compromise. It's not. Well played China.
I second that. I think people like Elon say things like this to make morons feel as though whatever Silicon Valley is pushing is inevitable and therefore mind as well assimilate. Or, it's a last ditch marketing tactic to target an audience that knows better, ie almost everyone in tech that cares about privacy and security. Make us feel little because we don't want to be a part of the social Darwinism.
Artificial Intelligence uses algorithms.
Canonical partners with Micro$oft:
Micro$oft joins the Linux Foundation
The Ubuntu phone/tablet:
Micro$oft and Intel in mobile market:
These are'nt just rantings of a madman, though as a Linux user, I am pissed. If you check the dates, you can see that as soon as Micro$oft found a better way to get into the mobile market, using Intel to help, they somehow got Ubuntu Touch to the shanty state it is in now. It has nothing to do with demand because I remember how badly all us Linux users wanted it to be a success and all the orders made for tablets. Matter of fact, for a short period, more people were ordering Ubuntu-based mobile devices than Window$ phones. They saw this and waved their magic patent wand with manufacturers and in my eyes made Canonical its "bitch," which is why I will never use anything Ubuntu-based ever again; I cannot trust them anymore, which is sad because I really like Xubuntu. Micro$oft is the king of backstabbing and will just do the same to Intel, placing them in their "emulator" pool they got going on now so they can maintain their "Big Brother" cloud system.
The future is more likely to be server APIs while everyone turns into over glorified interface designers. Schools are teaching Python for calculations the same way they used to teach BASIC. But, there's no money it and quite literally because of its license. So, it will be C and Python on desktop and PHP and HTML5 on servers. I wish more people liked Python because it's a whole lot easier to modify. People complain about speed with Python, but imagine having to edit or add variables in C and then recompiling it just to run it every time; it would take longer. On top of which, Visual Basic and M$ want you to use C#, which then prevents or causes problems with cross platform compatibility. Blender is all Python and it works just fine and people use it for all kinds of things, including having a built-in game engine.
the glorious opportunity to be embraced by our benevolent Micro$oft on both new and old machines to relentlessly guide us toward the cloud. The CLOUD! The cloud choose who will go and who will stay....(Toy Story). Also, I bet if you did a bit of digging and experimenting, you'd find that 32-bit Window$ 10 has fewer vulnerabilities and runs colder. No, you won't be playing new video games or graphic designing, but they probably serve a lot like what Raspberry Pi users do with their stuff. Simple things without a lot gunk you don't need. 64-bit typically uses more RAM and CPU/GPU, as well as having software larger in size. It's also possible that the government was dumb enough to have contracts with them but too broke to upgrade everything.
Micro$oft is trying to create "emulators" for everything to keep people that don't know any better hooked into their control. Figuratively speaking, they only allow smaller Russian dolls and they make sure that they are always the largest one. They did it with Linux, which is also being emulated (GNU/NT; no kernel) and now they are doing it to Intel. They join the Linux foundation and "help" Canonical and then a few months after the mobile version of Ubuntu was starting to actual look like it would be successful, tablets being sold like crazy, Ubuntu respins it like it was a failure. Bullshit. They were about to do better than the M$ mobile junk and Canonical got a phone call. Fast forward to Intel's problem and take a look at how closely Intel and M$ have been working together in the past few months. Now, M$ wants to emulate them too and on their...*trumpets*...mobile phone. Masters of backstabbing.
I didn't know whether to if it would have been better use "code" or "compile" jack ass, but now I know people are going to nitpick to death. Contrary to you claim I use both Mac and Linux and have made a few Linux distros for both personal use and for others. As far as to whether if anyone still uses FatELF, you once again take something I said way too far. I have no idea what bone I picked with you, but do yourself a favor and be a dick to someone else. If you do have the time your tech majesty, do feel free to go to my website https:theouterlinux.com and look at how much I don't know about things. "Bronstrup Creative is on the forefront of web technology..." Not really; your website looks like a scam.
I know of the advantages, but those advantages were not there when they started pushing 64-bit with Vista. Eventually, GPU's got better (the first was in 1999) but that took until Windows 7 got released to have mattered enough to want to upgrade. That's why I say it was originally a marketing tactic. Even so, I have 32-bit Linux distros running on my computers and never get passed 2 GB on most days. After logging in, they only need 300 MB of RAM. What I have noticed is that 64-bit computers use more RAM, so I have yet to understand the trade off as a normal user that doesn't play video games. I sometimes use Blender for 3D modeling on my 9 year old laptop with 128 MB video, and I can still get up to 150K faces without the frame rate dropping too much.
We had 64-bit computers in the 1970s, just not in a marketable way.
Facefarm helps politicians get elected and then once elected they help them network. Hmmmm....I wonder what that sounds like? Oliver Stone would be so proud.
Right now you can get 32-bit binaries, but I was referring to the Linux distros themselves no longer making 32-bit builds. You probably wont see anymore of them unless in an archive like ibiblio in a year from now. Some websites at the end of this year may still have links to 32-bit builds, but it'll be "Classic" versions until they decide to remove them completely when they update their website. I'm sure Github will still have a few here and there, though I don't know if anyone still bothers to code for fat or universal binaries anymore.
I meant on the operating system level. Most Linux distros have decided to not build 64-bit versions anymore. Most repositories have also been dropping their 32-bit packages, save a few such as the kernel security updates. Even the custom repositories made by SuseStudio users (custom OpenSUSE-based distro builder) with 32-bit packages are falling off the map, including 42.1. And when you talk to developers, whether it is from Github, Reddit, Twitter, etc., all of them have told me that no one is volunteering anymore to support 32-bit versions of their software. Come November, you may experience your last 32-bit updates, or at least the important ones. You will of course have a few volunteers out there to keep up the good fight, but who knows what's going to be left to matter. If all the libraries that proprietary software steals as their backbone becomes 64-bit, then 32-bit doesn't have a chance.
A 64-bit operating system, an archetype that is known widely by developers and IT to support both 32 and 64-bit, is now going to purposely block 32-bit when we all know it will work? You know what this really is right? I have tried to tell both Linux and Window$ communities either here or on Reddit a while back about how 64-bit was nothing more than a tactic to get people to buy new hardware. The dropping of 32-bit for Linux is what actually made me angry. Now that everyone has an iPhone, maybe people will start to see when they have to buy iPhone 7's or later because their iPhone 5's no longer get updates and services block them from their network. You could get a 6, but very few would. It's a sales tactic. On top of which, if you pay attention to this kind of thing, most security vulnerabilities certain agencies have developed software for or even Dirty Cow for that matter, are primarily 64-bit. I think Apple security is going to get much worse over the next year. With 64-bit you've got way too much going on to be able to monitor like you can a simple 32-bit because things like GPU, which hackers love because of it enables faster brute force attacks.
Thank you for the change of tone and finally saying something worth biting into. That's all I ever really wanted. Write like you are doing now next time instead of insults. I like seeing real discussions; I have no need to be right as long you can throw a good argument "punch," but I do have a problem with name calling when we are all adults.
I wonder what would happen if you were capable of formulating arguments without insults? Let's go to the Neighborhood of Make Believe (ding ding): "If you were qualified to be "skeptical" you would write a rebuttal paper and submit it for review. That goes double for anything involving modeling. This particular paper does not present new techniques so far as I have read, but analyzing spectroscopic data is a fairly interesting topic on its own. I assume you've read it, of course. More generally, studying exoplanets provides information on what types of star systems are able to be formed, and gives us some insight into the formation of our own solar system. If you're searching after a practical application however, again, the fault is with your own understanding: that's not the goal of research."
You'd think an educated human being wrote that. Why would that have been so hard for you to do in the first place?
Or better yet, just shorten it to: "Studying exoplanets provides information on what types of star systems are able to be formed, and gives us some insight into the formation of our own solar system." But instead, you decided to go with the third grade name calling tactic. Why should I or any mature adult take anything you say seriously when you do that?
Realist method: Hear me out; buy a pistol. A lot of airlines actually allow unloaded pistols as baggage if they are locked in their own boxes in which they only have the key. However, they then allow you to lock you luggage that contains this locked box with the gun inside. You could then put your laptop in with it, with your own external lock, to which no TSA agent in a busy airport is going to bother to break open. The gunbox is specifically designed to let scanners know what's up.
The more fun method:Bring a typewriter into 12 hour flights. If they want to see your "data,: hand them your ink reels.
This is first time I'm seeing it. Looks like a genuine concern to me, and I probably wouldn't be "all over it" if it wasn't for the much worse responses that actually do seem to prove AC's point. A lot of name calling and no real substance.
I mention that people are afraid to question because of looking ignorant and being paired with those in politics. You site an aip page on global warming, which has nothing to do with astronomy or anything I've said. You're the actual moron and doing nothing but proving my point. IF you are capable of doing anything but name calling and misplaced logic, fee free to stop by again. I would love to hear a counter-argument involving the ACTUAL subject at hand, astronomy if you forgot and my two-cents covers a lot more than global warming in this particular thread, to which I don't dispute at all. So, what would the point of a rebuttal be in the first place? OP and I argue its value, not its validity. But as a side-note, if alluding to global warming is all you have in your arsenal for every time someone questions research, then it's just you and everyone else in the logical fallacy club trying to not look ignorant, as if political correctness has anything to do with science; it's a social issue and tell your people to not bring their baggage into science. Your "Think of the children" mentality won't get you far in any real science community. All your moronic millennial culture are capable of doing is turning facts into trends with absolutely no understanding of how it works, save a Bill Nye episode on Netflix and whatever Facefarm throws at them every morning. I would NEVER want to cure skepticism. No one that cares about science ever would. Faith in science is an oxymoron and the ideologies it's creating, as if a religion, are very dangerous. You are supposed pursue knowledge, you don't just let it be handed to you.
"The statements on this site represent the views of the author and are not positions endorsed by the American Institute of Physics." That's at the bottom of your sited page by the way. I spend 7.5 years in college and you spend 7 seconds googling. Congrats.
Seriously. Look at the icons near the title.
AC, I would mod you up if I could. Platforms for healthy skepticism are very rare these days. All you did was ask a simple yet genuine question that should be allowed to remain for intelligent discussion. Unfortunately, 99% of Slashdotters take astronomy to heart, turning it into an almost religion and therefore start throwing stones, only to make those in politics we are all unhappy with right now, look no worse. The truth is, most people here are techies only and actually know very little of the subject they are trying to defend.
But to answer your question, it does not nor ever will affect anyone at all. On top of which, the word use of "alien world" is cleverly used to suggest life, which is one of very few things left in this field driving people to invent and try new things to answer questions we have had for thousands of years. There was a time in history in which our focus was on the physics of our own planet. But, fast-forward a few hundred years, we go to the moon and allowed conspiracy theorists to create curiosity around the same time because of things like Area 51 and because reality sucks. Cowboys are replaced by spacemen. Now, you have people trapped in theories that will never be proven, and it will only get worse because much like what we did during the Cold War, we will use that same hope to get us through these difficult times. Space centers know how important they are for creating a new generation of freethinkers and inventors and will push anything they can to keep going.
But quick tip, don't use "...will prove I'm right..." because if you want to argue and not have ad hominem responses, you cannot take the high ground in a way that uses absolutes. Only those that already have a significant standing in a scientific community can do that, even though it looks crass. It makes it look like you have to defend something that you believe should be obvious to others.