I think some of these little suggestions are probably low on the slashdot priority list (widgets to unfold nested comments, a "suppress"/"revoke"/"edit"), and add a bit of complexity. However, I would agree that it is wasteful for moderators to use their point unnecessarily negatively, instead of on highlighting important things. E.g., those 2 or 3 "redendant" points could be used to pull some very interesting/informative comments out of the shadows.
Weird things have been happening to me for a while.
For the longest time, no matter what I did, when I visited slashdot it told be I was logged out, and when I hit preferences it gave me a scare message that something had gone wacky and I had better try logging in again. This has been fixed recently, now after login I am correctly forwarded to slashdot.org/ instead of slashdot.org/slashdot.pl (or whatever it was).
Just recently I think I'm losing it, because articles on slashdot disappear magically, or reappear after the fact later in the listing (??). Sometimes I go home from work, or just reload slashdot, and find stories I didn't ever see before during the day in the listing...or some might be gone. Just the other day the Segfault article disappeared into thin air. Maybe rob pulled it or something but it disappeared off the listing for me.
before anybody flames, I saw this on Ars Technica, and it was too bizarre not to submit. Usually I don't submit things and then see them here days later and kick myself.
In any case, even though it was repealed, it is interesting that it even made it into law in the first place!
Start Trek the Next Generation was the last (and best IMO) Star Trek. Everything since then has been a pathetic degradation until the latest versions with have devolved into lame soap operas. It is really quite pathetic at this point.
"Actually our undergrad lab admins named some 50-60 nt workstations after the simpsons characters. It is quite fun to log onto Dr.MarvinMonroe or Mrs.Lovejoy."
Ours too, it was great. You could log into Krusty and next you would be Chief Wiggum, and Troy McClure. We may have also had Itchy and Scratchy.
Waitasec. If this was for Japanese clientel, how on earth are they expected to know Canadian provinces, let alone the abbreviations for them. I'm glad our machines aren't named after abbreviations for Russian provinces, e.g.
Yeah, the worst thing is, is that our university has deals with Dell and Gateway, so in our labs we have, like fully equipped PIII 400 mhz monster machines, and all people use them for is as terminals for telneting in to PINE and the library catalogue! argh
I don't know what I was talking about, because that report doesn't even have a HotSpot benchmark on it. I'm pretty sure that HotSpot is only a bit behind IBM's VM, and probably getting much better. There were a ton of things they had left to implement after the 1.0 release of HotSpot.
"I thought that the HotSpot thing could only accelerate Server-side Java?"
I will work on any Java, but it specializes in sniffing out and optimizing critical performance areas, "hot spots", so server side code, which does a lot of repetitive stuff will see the best increase. Unfortunately we don't run our server stuff on OSs with a production ready "Java 2" VM available, so we can't take advantage of it really. And the older JITs are notorious for screwing things up, so we disable JITting too.
"note that in the volano benchmark, the much touted HotSpot comes behind the IBM JVM, so it is not the magic bullet, but anything that can help increasing speed is welcome"
According to this report:
http://www.javalobby.org/features/jpr/
IBM's JVM was clearly the winner, but HotSpot was not far behind. Unfortunately, IBM can't possibly keep up with releases as fast as Sun can, so HotSpot will always be the fastest VM for the most current release (I figure). I don't know if IBM has a "Java 2" JVM out yet, but tge HotSpot engine in 1.3 looks pretty good.
This is sort of a non sequiter, but I have to post somewhere....
I think Java is a pretty good language...some things really bug me (inability to abstract fields in a class, etc.). I, personally, would love to see Java natively compileable. There really isn't any reason it can't...it's a language just like any other.
Then we would see/true/ platform independence...not only would Java be able to run on any platform, it would be able to be/ported/ natively to any platform, which is a boon for C and sometimes C++.
I am finding the French immenently more sensable than Americans. Just the other day the American ambassador to France was on the Jim Lehrer News Hour and described how much of a foil France was to America. Where Americans mutinied over money, under a popular pretense of freedom, it was really the French that heeded the call of freedom and struck down their oppressors (albeit pretty bloodily). France, according to the ambassador, is much more concerned with freedoms, with personal rights, with the concept that a government exists not to enable people to become economically wealthy, but socially and culturally wealthy. The French see the gross gaps in income between classes in the US as unforgiveable, as they must have ages ago during the revolution.
Man, if ever I could get my tongue around the French language, I might consider moving there.
Ok, I've read basically that FreeBSD has the best support for the x86 platform, but I've also heard NetBSD is very well designed and written and fast.
So which is "fastest"? If I want to stick a *BSD on an old or even mediocre Pentium class machine...which of these is optimized for that, and would I be able to recompile with optimizations for my chip? E.g., Stampede Linux is compiled with pgcc which is optimized for pentiums...can I get that sort of optimization from a *BSD?
I'm actually considering to install some form of Linux, and I guess it could be an ask slashdot itself. I've looked at Slackware, and Debian for its package features, and Stampede for its optimization.
Re:BSD's deserve a look...
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Which BSD?
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strings ftp.exe on nt reveals:
@(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
Yeah...I don't know if I buy the hypsterism either. Katz does seem to provoke some interesting conversation, but like the very media he scorns he is just as sensationalistic and hyped.
Katz says that the people who make this product have already proven their legitimacy in many real world cases. He also goes on to ask if it will be used to pick out bullies, etc. Well, I hope it IS. I hope it IS used responsibly. No matter what the program says, it is up to the administrative staff and faculty to decide what to do. We have to hope/they/ have common sense and reason. Unfortunately it does seem that a program like this/might/ actually give an excuse to those who are already punishing people wrongfully to do it more so...so there may be legitimate fear in that.
Precompiler directives, that's another confusion. For machine indepence you're going to have to know about special defines for basic types, and also calling conventions (stdcall, etc.), all sorts of weird mangling phenomena, exports imports, linking, object files, etc...
I'd have to differ on the statement that Java is more daunting or difficult than C to the newbie. The Java VM hides tons of stuff the newbie doesn't have to care about.
C to print something: printf("foo: %i %b", 10, TRUE)// something like that right?
whaa? As a newbie I found C very cryptic and daunting. Java hides, for instance, nasty things like pointers, and is very developer friendly. C is good for small tight algorithms, libraries, etc. But anything to do with output or something complex enough to require an object model, C becomes a tangled mess.
We use Java here in the academic environment/extensively/. I work for the IT department of a large university (Cornell, 30,000 people), and our distributed infrastructure is being developed primarily with CORBA and Java, as are the new apps we're kicking out. Because of changing client-side API, specs, implementations, Java has been so far, a boon on the server side, but I think it's alive and kicking on the client too. JDK 1.3 is going to make it even better, with the incorporated HotSpot engine, which I've already seen to speed up client-side apps. I haven't seen the poll, but it's scary to think that many people have chosen Visual Basic as their favorite. I can understand if they are forced to use it...but personal favorite? Was it just MS lackeys and novice kiddies who think VB is the coolest thing?
Although you accurately note that HTML is far from ideal, Java servlets can enter into the scene, and, say, take your an XML-defined GUI and map it to HTML on the fly for you. There are also several packages out there that will actually reconstruct the appropriate Java GUI complete with widgets for you in HTML. The servlet would maintain state I'm assuming.
Full-blown Java app. Java does incur some overhead, but the portability really is there as long as you are not doing something really funky or attempting to make use of the latest whiz-bang features out of Sun. We deploy Java apps to a campus of over 30,000 people, which is also pretty heterogenous (Windows, Mac OS, Linux).
As for plugins, I would trust them as far as I can throw the bloated browsers out there today. But take note of Mozilla. When it comes to fruition you will be able to write pluglets in/Java/, which is really nice, and may be able to solve a lot of your problems.
Sun Ray...looks real spiffy...wish we could replace our public labs with them, instead of having, like, 40 computers per lab at @$1000 each plus maintainence costs and funky software distribution mechanisms.
"But as for Hitler, yeah I'll agree that he was trying to eradicate the Jewish race."
"But your argument is pretty weird. "All Jews are descended from Abraham, except the ones that aren't.""
I'm not sure if this is referring to me, or to someone in the other thread, but I never argued/Jews/ were descended from Abraham. That doesn't make any sense. I was asking if there was in fact an ethnicity derived from the original Jewish people, Abraham et al. Hebrews/Semites today aren't all necessarily Jewish, and not all Jews are Hebrew/Semitec in ethnicity.
The Jewish race? Do you mean the Hebrew or Semitic peoplss? Judaism is just a religion. Sure Hitler hated Jews, but more than he hated Judaism itself, it was the actually/ethnicity/ he hated. He was/ethnically/ cleaning the country. I'm sure if the Hebrew/Semites were all atheists, he'd still want to eradicate them.
Yes, and the differences are, on the whole, trivial points with respect to the religion at large. Things such as baptisizing, or who can be priests, the status of women etc...all of which are different views or interpretations of the same texts/doctrines. The term Christian, still adequately describes all of these groups and does not lead one to unnecessarily assume things about any of them. If any of these sects are so different from Christianity in general, are they really Christians? And if not, should they really be taking offense if they don't consider themselves Christians?
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I think some of these little suggestions are probably low on the slashdot priority list (widgets to unfold nested comments, a "suppress"/"revoke"/"edit"), and add a bit of complexity. However, I would agree that it is wasteful for moderators to use their point unnecessarily negatively, instead of on highlighting important things. E.g., those 2 or 3 "redendant" points could be used to pull some very interesting/informative comments out of the shadows.
Weird things have been happening to me for a while.
For the longest time, no matter what I did, when I visited slashdot it told be I was logged out, and when I hit preferences it gave me a scare message that something had gone wacky and I had better try logging in again. This has been fixed recently, now after login I am correctly forwarded to slashdot.org/ instead of slashdot.org/slashdot.pl (or whatever it was).
Just recently I think I'm losing it, because articles on slashdot disappear magically, or reappear after the fact later in the listing (??). Sometimes I go home from work, or just reload slashdot, and find stories I didn't ever see before during the day in the listing...or some might be gone. Just the other day the Segfault article disappeared into thin air. Maybe rob pulled it or something but it disappeared off the listing for me.
before anybody flames, I saw this on Ars Technica, and it was too bizarre not to submit. Usually I don't submit things and then see them here days later and kick myself.
In any case, even though it was repealed, it is interesting that it even made it into law in the first place!
Start Trek the Next Generation was the last (and best IMO) Star Trek. Everything since then has been a pathetic degradation until the latest versions with have devolved into lame soap operas. It is really quite pathetic at this point.
Some of our machines are named after the Dilbert cartoon:
Dilbert
Dogbert
etc...
"Actually our undergrad lab admins named some 50-60 nt workstations after the simpsons characters. It is quite fun to log onto
Dr.MarvinMonroe or Mrs.Lovejoy."
Ours too, it was great. You could log into Krusty and next you would be Chief Wiggum, and Troy McClure. We may have also had Itchy and Scratchy.
Add two more servers, Yaweh and Allah, and thinks start to get combustible ;)
Waitasec. If this was for Japanese clientel, how on earth are they expected to know Canadian provinces, let alone the abbreviations for them. I'm glad our machines aren't named after abbreviations for Russian provinces, e.g.
Don't forget Tully Monster and Grover, my favorites.
BTW, am I going insane, or did the Segfault story disappear off the face of Slashdot not moments after I read it? It's gone now....
The First Million is Always the Hardest (I think) is another good book by Po Bronson.
Yeah, the worst thing is, is that our university has deals with Dell and Gateway, so in our labs we have, like fully equipped PIII 400 mhz monster machines, and all people use them for is as terminals for telneting in to PINE and the library catalogue! argh
I don't know what I was talking about, because that report doesn't even have a HotSpot benchmark on it. I'm pretty sure that HotSpot is only a bit behind IBM's VM, and probably getting much better. There were a ton of things they had left to implement after the 1.0 release of HotSpot.
"I thought that the HotSpot thing could only accelerate Server-side Java?"
I will work on any Java, but it specializes in sniffing out and optimizing critical performance areas, "hot spots", so server side code, which does a lot of repetitive stuff will see the best increase. Unfortunately we don't run our server stuff on OSs with a production ready "Java 2" VM available, so we can't take advantage of it really. And the older JITs are notorious for screwing things up, so we disable JITting too.
"note that in the volano benchmark, the much touted HotSpot comes behind the IBM JVM, so it is not the magic bullet, but anything that can help increasing speed is welcome"
According to this report:
http://www.javalobby.org/features/jpr/
IBM's JVM was clearly the winner, but HotSpot was not far behind. Unfortunately, IBM can't possibly keep up with releases as fast as Sun can, so HotSpot will always be the fastest VM for the most current release (I figure). I don't know if IBM has a "Java 2" JVM out yet, but tge HotSpot engine in 1.3 looks pretty good.
This is sort of a non sequiter, but I have to post somewhere....
/true/ platform independence...not only would Java be able to run on any platform, it would be able to be /ported/ natively to any platform, which is a boon for C and sometimes C++.
I think Java is a pretty good language...some things really bug me (inability to abstract fields in a class, etc.). I, personally, would love to see Java natively compileable. There really isn't any reason it can't...it's a language just like any other.
Then we would see
I am finding the French immenently more sensable than Americans. Just the other day the American ambassador to France was on the Jim Lehrer News Hour and described how much of a foil France was to America. Where Americans mutinied over money, under a popular pretense of freedom, it was really the French that heeded the call of freedom and struck down their oppressors (albeit pretty bloodily). France, according to the ambassador, is much more concerned with freedoms, with personal rights, with the concept that a government exists not to enable people to become economically wealthy, but socially and culturally wealthy. The French see the gross gaps in income between classes in the US as unforgiveable, as they must have ages ago during the revolution.
Man, if ever I could get my tongue around the French language, I might consider moving there.
Ok, I've read basically that FreeBSD has the best support for the x86 platform, but I've also heard NetBSD is very well designed and written and fast.
So which is "fastest"? If I want to stick a *BSD on an old or even mediocre Pentium class machine...which of these is optimized for that, and would I be able to recompile with optimizations for my chip? E.g., Stampede Linux is compiled with pgcc which is optimized for pentiums...can I get that sort of optimization from a *BSD?
I'm actually considering to install some form of Linux, and I guess it could be an ask slashdot itself. I've looked at Slackware, and Debian for its package features, and Stampede for its optimization.
strings ftp.exe on nt reveals:
@(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
All rights reserved.
Heh
Yeah...I don't know if I buy the hypsterism either. Katz does seem to provoke some interesting conversation, but like the very media he scorns he is just as sensationalistic and hyped.
/they/ have common sense and reason. Unfortunately it does seem that a program like this /might/ actually give an excuse to those who are already punishing people wrongfully to do it more so...so there may be legitimate fear in that.
Katz says that the people who make this product have already proven their legitimacy in many real world cases. He also goes on to ask if it will be used to pick out bullies, etc. Well, I hope it IS. I hope it IS used responsibly. No matter what the program says, it is up to the administrative staff and faculty to decide what to do. We have to hope
Other exmaples amongst many:
Precompiler directives, that's another confusion. For machine indepence you're going to have to know about special defines for basic types, and also calling conventions (stdcall, etc.), all sorts of weird mangling phenomena, exports imports, linking, object files, etc...
I'd have to differ on the statement that Java is more daunting or difficult than C to the newbie. The Java VM hides tons of stuff the newbie doesn't have to care about.
// something like that right?
Java too print something:
System.out.println("foo: " + 10 + " " + (true))
C to print something:
printf("foo: %i %b", 10, TRUE)
whaa? As a newbie I found C very cryptic and daunting. Java hides, for instance, nasty things like pointers, and is very developer friendly. C is good for small tight algorithms, libraries, etc. But anything to do with output or something complex enough to require an object model, C becomes a tangled mess.
We use Java here in the academic environment /extensively/. I work for the IT department of a large university (Cornell, 30,000 people), and our distributed infrastructure is being developed primarily with CORBA and Java, as are the new apps we're kicking out. Because of changing client-side API, specs, implementations, Java has been so far, a boon on the server side, but I think it's alive and kicking on the client too. JDK 1.3 is going to make it even better, with the incorporated HotSpot engine, which I've already seen to speed up client-side apps. I haven't seen the poll, but it's scary to think that many people have chosen Visual Basic as their favorite. I can understand if they are forced to use it...but personal favorite? Was it just MS lackeys and novice kiddies who think VB is the coolest thing?
Although you accurately note that HTML is far from ideal, Java servlets can enter into the scene, and, say, take your an XML-defined GUI and map it to HTML on the fly for you. There are also several packages out there that will actually reconstruct the appropriate Java GUI complete with widgets for you in HTML. The servlet would maintain state I'm assuming.
/Java/, which is really nice, and may be able to solve a lot of your problems.
Full-blown Java app. Java does incur some overhead, but the portability really is there as long as you are not doing something really funky or attempting to make use of the latest whiz-bang features out of Sun. We deploy Java apps to a campus of over 30,000 people, which is also pretty heterogenous (Windows, Mac OS, Linux).
As for plugins, I would trust them as far as I can throw the bloated browsers out there today. But take note of Mozilla. When it comes to fruition you will be able to write pluglets in
Sun Ray...looks real spiffy...wish we could replace our public labs with them, instead of having, like, 40 computers per lab at @$1000 each plus maintainence costs and funky software distribution mechanisms.
"Perhaps, but I wouldn't equate Hebrew with Jew."
/Jews/ were descended from Abraham. That doesn't make any sense. I was asking if there was in fact an ethnicity derived from the original Jewish people, Abraham et al. Hebrews/Semites today aren't all necessarily Jewish, and not all Jews are Hebrew/Semitec in ethnicity.
/ethnicity/ he hated. He was /ethnically/ cleaning the country. I'm sure if the Hebrew/Semites were all atheists, he'd still want to eradicate them.
I don't.
"But as for Hitler, yeah I'll agree that he was trying to eradicate the Jewish race."
"But your argument is pretty weird. "All Jews are descended from Abraham, except the ones that aren't.""
I'm not sure if this is referring to me, or to someone in the other thread, but I never argued
The Jewish race? Do you mean the Hebrew or Semitic peoplss? Judaism is just a religion. Sure Hitler hated Jews, but more than he hated Judaism itself, it was the actually
Yes, and the differences are, on the whole, trivial points with respect to the religion at large. Things such as baptisizing, or who can be priests, the status of women etc...all of which are different views or interpretations of the same texts/doctrines. The term Christian, still adequately describes all of these groups and does not lead one to unnecessarily assume things about any of them. If any of these sects are so different from Christianity in general, are they really Christians? And if not, should they really be taking offense if they don't consider themselves Christians?