Access requires significant disposable income to cover computer capitalization, the continuing outlays of phone bills, repair and continuing recapitalization.
So does a real community. In fact, a real community costs more than a virtual equivilent. Why? Continuing outlays of rent/utility/luxury bills, repair and continuing recapitalization, and don't forget the time involved.
Virtual communities, or whatever else you choose to call them, most definitely exist. I regularly contact at least a hundred, probably a few hundred, people and know them fairly well. But I've never met them in person, and so they are a virtual community.
But what we need, and what you need, is to find proof that someone thought about this, wrote this down, did it, was going to do it, or wanted to do it
Actually, I don't understand *why* any business would want to do this. I mean, sure, fill out the order form for them, but one click? Do they even ask for you to confirm the order? (Sorry, never ordered there) Hence, the lack of websites that actually do it. In any case, whether it makes sense or not, I still feel stongly about Amazon's act of patenting it.
A patent shouldn't be granted for an obvious extension. While it is a specific process, it's still an obvious one.
It's like patenting the act of painting a car. It's an obvious extension of the building of the car. Or patenting a logo on a cell phone, it's an obvious extension of the cell phone to put your logo on it. Was I the first to think of putting my logo on a phone? No? Prove it. Why should I be assumed guilty until proven innocent?
Also, BN's process requires two clicks. But they were subject to an injuction anyway because it's "too similar" to Amazon's process. Explain that to me, please.
And I saw this comment twice already, there are probably many more. In fact, this comment has been posted in just about everything I can think of. A problem with/.? No, a problem with people like you.
As has already been said, it's an obvious extension of current e-commerce methods.
Are you saying that you never thought of the possibility of someone clicking a button and an action being taken care of by previous input? Otherwise, why do cookies exist? Everyone who knows how this stuff works has easily come up with "one-click" ordering at one time or another. That makes a patent for it invalid. Case closed. Well, hopefully.
For a good comparison, do you remember the patent a guy had on a pet excercise device? It was a laser pointer that you point at a wall and move around. Tell me that isn't completely obvious. The only thing that kept me from doing it was actually owning a laser pointer. Hence, the patent is invalid.
We've even been playing with Blender, but it seems to lack network rendering support
Go to the Anim menu, look for a button that says Render Daemon. There's your network support. It's even going to be open source when released. If you can hold out for that, you should. Blender is one of the best ways to go, IMHO.
I realize that if you fail to perform your job, you can have a huge impact on a companies ability to generate revenue, but I reiterate, you don't generate revenue.
Well.. that's not entirely true.
Say I'm support for contact management software. All the sales people use my software. Each sales person enter information on their accounts. Now, it's my job to take care of that information. If I write software to take that info and do fax blasts, I'm generating revenue that the sales people don't even touch. It doesn't stop there though. Anything I do to streamline any systems in-house is revenue generating because it frees up time for more sales calls. If I figure out how do do more processes paperless, I'm saving money. Saving money is as good as profit.
Let me rephrase that. Anything I do to cause more revenue to be generated should be looked at as generating revenue. Understand? You don't have to talk to customers in order to make the company a profit.
The problem isn't that IS doesn't generate revenue. I do that. I do that everyday. The problem is that the revenue generated isn't always trackable. I don't get a raise because it isn't obvious who did it.
What happens when that "special login" is leaked? Don't say it never will be. When it is leaked, every Unix system in existence will be suceptible to this "special login", most likely the same one for every system. At that point, all of the work that was done to make this super secret login trick will be useless. Once everyone knows about it, people will make sure that *their* system is free of the bug by trying to login under the "special login". If they can't use the "special login", they will distribute their compiler as a clean one or better yet, distribute instructions on how to rid your current compiler of the offending bug. Even if it takes going in with a hex editor, it would be done.
People with this line of reasoning remind me of those annoying twerps in school who always have to try to trip you up. In theory anyone can do anything. The problem is when people try to use that reasoning to prove something that someone says is impossible. Of course they'll always prove the impossible possible, because there's always an equally impossible response.
I heartily suggest that those people get real lives.
If you are that annoyed by Slashdot, then I must ask: Why are you still here?
Go away. Slashdot isn't yours. It has no responsibility to you. The creators of Slashdot don't care about you, or your opinions. If you really want something better, go find it or start it yourself. But by clogging up story threads with crap like this, you're only making yourself look silly.
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How amazingly cool.
I was reading that for an hour (the one about the paris catacombs) before I realized I should be working.:)
How does one go about getting into this? I never knew others were into this sort of thing, thought I was a freak. I guess given a large enough group you can find at least two people interested in everything.
Hmm, that's a really good question. And by "good", I actually mean "stupid".
This has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the original conversation.
If a parent can afford to give their child certain tools, they should do it. This will help the child. If other kids get upset, that's their problem. I'm not taking care of those kids, their parents are.
While I don't like the fact that some people are poor in the world, I don't have the resources to help everyone. I *do* have the resources to help my child. I will help him, and continue to help him no matter how upset some brat decides to get about it.
Why is it, that in today's info-culture that things like this can still get lost between the cracks
Because people who are actually good at customer service have found real jobs. This was predicted a few years ago, that the very low unemployment rates in the country would result is even worse customer service.
Companies need to start making customer service a priority. If it means more training, fine. More often though, it will mean more of the yearly budget devoted to paying customer service more. Most companies don't want to, and you're left with problems like the above.
only thig is, most mp3 players that use mpg123, including xmms, are memory hogs.
Most good graphical players support WinAmp skins...How will Sonique be different
Try taking a look at Sonique. It's nothing like what you've probably seen if you think WinAmp is all there is. Sonique's interface is much prettier. And personally, I like it's UI better than any other player out there. It does have support for skins, but I'd rather leave it at the default.
Appartently, yes. This is the first time I've ever sided with Microsoft. I've been using Outlook 2000 at work for about a year now. I've never changed the default way of sending messages. I have many friends who use *nix, in fact I've emailed myself and recieved the mail on my Linux box.
You've been able to apply different themes to Win* for quite a while now. Personally, I like my litestep desktop better.
That aside, these shots still aren't anything to get excited about. They look like windows. Know what I always wanted and couldn't get with the explorer shell? A clean desktop. Have you ever tried to remove all the icons from your stinking desktop? The only two ways that you can do it either screw the underlying system up or take up tons of memory with the active desktop.
it's barely possible to run X Window System and Netscape under 200MB
barely possible? what are talking about?
X and Netscape do not take up 200MB. I have a redhat install on an 800MB drive on my laptop. 200MB is taken up, but that includes tons of other programs.
ya know, I really genuinely hate attitudes like that.
I'd like to know where you get off judging these guys like that. I mean, what are your criteria for "worthy of podium" speakers? College degree? Wrote a book?
Did you realize that the more educated a person is, the less likely they are to wash their hands?
For the featured (analog)robot of Mark Tilden : $2.50 . For all the other (digital) robots: over $100,000 . Something to think about there.
I can't say I've ever heard that, because it's kinda wrong. I'm a BEAM roboticist, and I happen to know how much they cost to make. I'm currently working on a 4-legged walker. Basically everything is custom, and so you'd think I did it cheap. In fact, so far the main parts of the bot have only been around $15. But then you get to the motors. I happened across a good deal to buy them for $5 a piece, but normally you can figure $20+. $150 being the motor you need. $20 being a horible compromise.
Granted, they aren't $100,000. But they're defninitely not $2.50.
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Access requires significant disposable income to cover computer capitalization, the continuing outlays of phone bills, repair and continuing recapitalization.
So does a real community. In fact, a real community costs more than a virtual equivilent. Why? Continuing outlays of rent/utility/luxury bills, repair and continuing recapitalization, and don't forget the time involved.
Virtual communities, or whatever else you choose to call them, most definitely exist. I regularly contact at least a hundred, probably a few hundred, people and know them fairly well. But I've never met them in person, and so they are a virtual community.
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But what we need, and what you need, is to find proof that someone thought about this, wrote this down, did it, was going to do it, or wanted to do it
Actually, I don't understand *why* any business would want to do this. I mean, sure, fill out the order form for them, but one click? Do they even ask for you to confirm the order? (Sorry, never ordered there) Hence, the lack of websites that actually do it. In any case, whether it makes sense or not, I still feel stongly about Amazon's act of patenting it.
A patent shouldn't be granted for an obvious extension. While it is a specific process, it's still an obvious one.
It's like patenting the act of painting a car. It's an obvious extension of the building of the car. Or patenting a logo on a cell phone, it's an obvious extension of the cell phone to put your logo on it. Was I the first to think of putting my logo on a phone? No? Prove it. Why should I be assumed guilty until proven innocent?
Also, BN's process requires two clicks. But they were subject to an injuction anyway because it's "too similar" to Amazon's process. Explain that to me, please.
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/.? No, a problem with people like you.
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And I saw this comment twice already, there are probably many more. In fact, this comment has been posted in just about everything I can think of. A problem with
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As has already been said, it's an obvious extension of current e-commerce methods.
Are you saying that you never thought of the possibility of someone clicking a button and an action being taken care of by previous input? Otherwise, why do cookies exist? Everyone who knows how this stuff works has easily come up with "one-click" ordering at one time or another. That makes a patent for it invalid. Case closed. Well, hopefully.
For a good comparison, do you remember the patent a guy had on a pet excercise device? It was a laser pointer that you point at a wall and move around. Tell me that isn't completely obvious. The only thing that kept me from doing it was actually owning a laser pointer. Hence, the patent is invalid.
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We've even been playing with Blender, but it seems to lack network rendering support
Go to the Anim menu, look for a button that says Render Daemon. There's your network support. It's even going to be open source when released. If you can hold out for that, you should. Blender is one of the best ways to go, IMHO.
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Very well done! I could hear Kent talking as I read it.
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What a cool version structure. Why doesn't all other software follow this?
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I realize that if you fail to perform your job, you can have a huge impact on a companies ability to generate revenue, but I reiterate, you don't generate revenue.
Well.. that's not entirely true.
Say I'm support for contact management software. All the sales people use my software. Each sales person enter information on their accounts. Now, it's my job to take care of that information. If I write software to take that info and do fax blasts, I'm generating revenue that the sales people don't even touch. It doesn't stop there though. Anything I do to streamline any systems in-house is revenue generating because it frees up time for more sales calls. If I figure out how do do more processes paperless, I'm saving money. Saving money is as good as profit.
Let me rephrase that. Anything I do to cause more revenue to be generated should be looked at as generating revenue. Understand? You don't have to talk to customers in order to make the company a profit.
The problem isn't that IS doesn't generate revenue. I do that. I do that everyday. The problem is that the revenue generated isn't always trackable. I don't get a raise because it isn't obvious who did it.
Hence, my current underpaid situation.
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Say this actually happened..
some special login that's universal
What happens when that "special login" is leaked? Don't say it never will be. When it is leaked, every Unix system in existence will be suceptible to this "special login", most likely the same one for every system. At that point, all of the work that was done to make this super secret login trick will be useless. Once everyone knows about it, people will make sure that *their* system is free of the bug by trying to login under the "special login". If they can't use the "special login", they will distribute their compiler as a clean one or better yet, distribute instructions on how to rid your current compiler of the offending bug. Even if it takes going in with a hex editor, it would be done.
People with this line of reasoning remind me of those annoying twerps in school who always have to try to trip you up. In theory anyone can do anything. The problem is when people try to use that reasoning to prove something that someone says is impossible. Of course they'll always prove the impossible possible, because there's always an equally impossible response.
I heartily suggest that those people get real lives.
Maybe gardening?
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hilarious. really, I mean that.
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If you are that annoyed by Slashdot, then I must ask: Why are you still here?
Go away. Slashdot isn't yours. It has no responsibility to you. The creators of Slashdot don't care about you, or your opinions. If you really want something better, go find it or start it yourself. But by clogging up story threads with crap like this, you're only making yourself look silly.
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How amazingly cool.
:)
I was reading that for an hour (the one about the paris catacombs) before I realized I should be working.
How does one go about getting into this? I never knew others were into this sort of thing, thought I was a freak. I guess given a large enough group you can find at least two people interested in everything.
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Hmm, that's a really good question. And by "good", I actually mean "stupid".
This has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the original conversation.
If a parent can afford to give their child certain tools, they should do it. This will help the child. If other kids get upset, that's their problem. I'm not taking care of those kids, their parents are.
While I don't like the fact that some people are poor in the world, I don't have the resources to help everyone. I *do* have the resources to help my child. I will help him, and continue to help him no matter how upset some brat decides to get about it.
the end.
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With all due respect, that's just silly.
Why should a parent choose not to provide a valuable tool to their child just because it could cause a gap between them and lower incomes?
-I'll never teach my son robotics because the other kids' dads aren't roboticists and it would cause a gap.
-I'll never let my son own a dog because it could cause a gap between him and those that can't have a dog.
-I'll never let my son eat steak because some people can't afford steak and it would just cause a social gap.
please.
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O2K benchmark:
PIII ~8 minutes.
Crusoe ~10 minutes.
Average battery life:
PIII ~2 hours.
Crusoe ~8 hours.
So for a roughly 20% performance hit, you get roughly 400% battery life. That's not bad, if you ask me.
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Why is it, that in today's info-culture that things like this can still get lost between the cracks
Because people who are actually good at customer service have found real jobs. This was predicted a few years ago, that the very low unemployment rates in the country would result is even worse customer service.
Companies need to start making customer service a priority. If it means more training, fine. More often though, it will mean more of the yearly budget devoted to paying customer service more. Most companies don't want to, and you're left with problems like the above.
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I'll continue to use the mpg123
only thig is, most mp3 players that use mpg123, including xmms, are memory hogs.
Most good graphical players support WinAmp skins...How will Sonique be different
Try taking a look at Sonique. It's nothing like what you've probably seen if you think WinAmp is all there is. Sonique's interface is much prettier. And personally, I like it's UI better than any other player out there. It does have support for skins, but I'd rather leave it at the default.
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What's funny is, I spent less time reading your rant than you did writing it.
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Actually, no.
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I may be reading a bit much into this paragraph
Appartently, yes. This is the first time I've ever sided with Microsoft. I've been using Outlook 2000 at work for about a year now. I've never changed the default way of sending messages. I have many friends who use *nix, in fact I've emailed myself and recieved the mail on my Linux box.
I've never had this problem, ever.
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I still prefer mine.
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Those are some fine-lookin' shots
You've been able to apply different themes to Win* for quite a while now. Personally, I like my litestep desktop better.
That aside, these shots still aren't anything to get excited about. They look like windows. Know what I always wanted and couldn't get with the explorer shell? A clean desktop. Have you ever tried to remove all the icons from your stinking desktop? The only two ways that you can do it either screw the underlying system up or take up tons of memory with the active desktop.
oh well, I'm too busy to be writing this.
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it's barely possible to run X Window System and Netscape under 200MB
barely possible? what are talking about?
X and Netscape do not take up 200MB. I have a redhat install on an 800MB drive on my laptop. 200MB is taken up, but that includes tons of other programs.
1) you get a clue
2) you get a life
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I don't consider either one of you worthy
ya know, I really genuinely hate attitudes like that.
I'd like to know where you get off judging these guys like that. I mean, what are your criteria for "worthy of podium" speakers? College degree? Wrote a book?
Did you realize that the more educated a person is, the less likely they are to wash their hands?
Just goes to show where your values lie.
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For the featured (analog)robot of Mark Tilden : $2.50 . For all the other (digital) robots: over $100,000 . Something to think about there.
I can't say I've ever heard that, because it's kinda wrong. I'm a BEAM roboticist, and I happen to know how much they cost to make. I'm currently working on a 4-legged walker. Basically everything is custom, and so you'd think I did it cheap. In fact, so far the main parts of the bot have only been around $15. But then you get to the motors. I happened across a good deal to buy them for $5 a piece, but normally you can figure $20+. $150 being the motor you need. $20 being a horible compromise.
Granted, they aren't $100,000. But they're defninitely not $2.50.
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