One legitimate complaint is that XForms isn't backwards compatible; however as I've just completed some work using XForms and I'm currently dealing with the mess of javascript and html that complex forms currently require... well, screw backwards compatibility it this case.
My point exactly, javascript + html is a major pain in the ass with more restrictions than benefits, something that really deserves to be purged in favor of more flexible solution. 'From the ground up', and all that engineer lingo.
Perhaps my choice of words (or lack of quotation marks) was unfortunate, I definitely don't consider any of the XForms related doohickeys "bloat", but obviously someone in Oslo does...
Now Opera has been known for ages for being pretty anti-XForms, mostly because integration of standards such as XForms/SVG would bloat the browserfootprint to such an extent that a lot of mobile device manufacturers might start looking for a different browser - you can basically script together a viable Word alternative using a little PHP, a lot of XForms and SVG today, but instead we are seeing another fork off into a separate direction by a new web-related splinter cell.
It's a shame to see this development as XForms is a really neat standard that exists today - anyone with a engineering background certainly knows how useful it can be at times to can backwards-compatibility in favor of allout innovation.
How long till plainclothes cops walk the malls carrying detectors that sense the self-incriminating probe of the would-be pickpacket?
How long till plainclothes cops start falsely arresting innocent people because they don't have the slightest clue as to how the device they are using to incriminate works?
Aside from that, the classification of fishes is something that changes very, very regularly - ichtyologists are constantly regrouping, splitting species into several or merging them again.
This device is not "as good as a human", it actually does its ichtyologist counterparts one better!
Sounds like some industry reps are trying to save their asses if you ask me...
...or then perhaps you should revise your "teaching" skills? It's always nice to assume you taught someone something, but judging from your experiences you seem to fail in that department.
operas strange position in the browser market has already had a negative effect on open standards development, just ask any of the w3c members that have had to trek up to oslo to negotiate...
as the primary mobile handset browser, they are not really interested in implementing anything past css-2.
Actually implying that not knowing electronica (crappy american term btw) means you can't listen to electronic means that you yourself haven't really comprehended anything. This guy clearly belongs to the group of people that are "with it" more because it's the hip thing to do and some "cool" friends are doing it as well, not because the music is all that good or exciting. yawn.
Ok, minor mistakes I can live with, but house did NOT start in Florida!!!! The first house record was Jesse Saunders - On & On on Jess'Say Records, based in Chicago. Really current dancemusic has some of its roots at least (depending on your view of how musical genres develop) in Detroit and Chicago, but definitely not Florida! Places like that came into the picture waaaaay later, you had people like Juan Atkins producing electronic stuff as Cybotron back in 81 over in Detroit...
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My point exactly, javascript + html is a major pain in the ass with more restrictions than benefits, something that really deserves to be purged in favor of more flexible solution. 'From the ground up', and all that engineer lingo.
Perhaps my choice of words (or lack of quotation marks) was unfortunate, I definitely don't consider any of the XForms related doohickeys "bloat", but obviously someone in Oslo does...
Now Opera has been known for ages for being pretty anti-XForms, mostly because integration of standards such as XForms/SVG would bloat the browserfootprint to such an extent that a lot of mobile device manufacturers might start looking for a different browser - you can basically script together a viable Word alternative using a little PHP, a lot of XForms and SVG today, but instead we are seeing another fork off into a separate direction by a new web-related splinter cell.
It's a shame to see this development as XForms is a really neat standard that exists today - anyone with a engineering background certainly knows how useful it can be at times to can backwards-compatibility in favor of allout innovation.
You obviously only listen to music that is mass-marketed and/or live in a large country with a large amount of record shops to go to.
What the hell ever happened to 'em?
Is it because they don't violate anyone's privacy?
How long till plainclothes cops walk the malls carrying detectors that sense the self-incriminating probe of the would-be pickpacket?
How long till plainclothes cops start falsely arresting innocent people because they don't have the slightest clue as to how the device they are using to incriminate works?
Aside from that, the classification of fishes is something that changes very, very regularly - ichtyologists are constantly regrouping, splitting species into several or merging them again.
This device is not "as good as a human", it actually does its ichtyologist counterparts one better!
Sounds like some industry reps are trying to save their asses if you ask me...
...or then perhaps you should revise your "teaching" skills? It's always nice to assume you taught someone something, but judging from your experiences you seem to fail in that department.
Right, hardly a admin in this world gets pissed when the upstream is saturated thanks to P2P apps...
operas strange position in the browser market has already had a negative effect on open standards development, just ask any of the w3c members that have had to trek up to oslo to negotiate...
as the primary mobile handset browser, they are not really interested in implementing anything past css-2.
Actually implying that not knowing electronica (crappy american term btw) means you can't listen to electronic means that you yourself haven't really comprehended anything. This guy clearly belongs to the group of people that are "with it" more because it's the hip thing to do and some "cool" friends are doing it as well, not because the music is all that good or exciting. yawn.
Ok, minor mistakes I can live with, but house did NOT start in Florida!!!! The first house record was Jesse Saunders - On & On on Jess'Say Records, based in Chicago. Really current dancemusic has some of its roots at least (depending on your view of how musical genres develop) in Detroit and Chicago, but definitely not Florida! Places like that came into the picture waaaaay later, you had people like Juan Atkins producing electronic stuff as Cybotron back in 81 over in Detroit...