They cant let you do it. TrueType and Quicktime are listed on their balance sheet as IP. Failing to defend their Patents and/or Copyright of this IP would not be in the interests of profit.
blah.. these lame true democratic systems never work anyway. But even going by the definition of Flamebait, it is not something that I think should be discouraged in an open forum. If I say linux sux, you should either be adult enough to shut up and let me have a different opinion to me, or you should try to convince me otherwise. Flaming is the crime, not expressing an opinion that differs from the majority.
personally I want my software to work. I want the software that is running the web servers to which I connect to work. I want the software which runs my bank and my car and my coke machine to work and I know that not all of these systems are going to be open source. So if I write the best damned solenoid control software available and make sure everyone can use it, I'll be able to walk past someone banging the side of a coke machine for five minutes and say "well, it aint my code!"
too true. How many times have we heard: xyz company released abc product open source, how come they havn't released everything open source!? followed shortly by sobs and whimpering. I dont know, maybe it has something to do with making money?
The whole "flamebait" rating should be removed as it is too much of a threat to variety of opinion. Any argument which inspires others to write something insightful is valuable. So it attracts a bit of flame, so what, next to every piece of flame on this site there is someone who has an intelligent retort. I suggest that the "flamebait" moderation be replaced with a "flamer" moderation.
Indeed, if you feel the need to only use GPL software, feel free to grab that mislead BSD-license using developers code and slap the GPL license on it. Sure there would be another copy of it available under something other than the GPL, but the GPL is probably better at attracting developers (be they for purely idiological reasons or otherwise) so the GPL will surely outspace the BSD version in a few years and you can always cross port any improvements from the BSD version into the GPL version, something the BSD people cant do? What's that? You dont think that would be ethical? Oh, now I guess we both understand what the author of the article (no matter how mislead) is on about. Personally, the license is just annoying, unless you are a lawyer, so show me the damn code.
and you need to get out to the hood in your daddy's porsche more often if when you think of "thief" all you can conjure up is someone sitting in front of a computer playing video games.
you're right! Because that old usage of the word (theft at sea, usually followed by murder and arson) could never be used as a propoganda tool again people who didn't even leave their own house to type the word "copy". Think before you type.
I never know who to hate more, the shister or the idiots who buy his warez. Truely, you would think that anyone with enough money to be interested in protecting their stuff and willing to pay for a system like this would have someone in charge who has a freakin' brain. Exactly what is the limit here? If I was to tell your CEO that I could give him eternal life (by use of a computer) would he believe me?
It's easy to look at the hundreds of crappy open source projects and deduce that open source software sucks in general, but they're *visible*. You don't see the bad code in proprietary software, you just swear at Bill Gates and reboot.
uhh, have you ever worked for a software company? Have you ever looked at their code? In all the companies I've worked in they have had coding standards. You submit code to be reviewed that isn't up to the coding standard (that means, is not clear enough, does not have sensible comment blocks, does not do what it is supposed to do, does not have the proper asserts and safety checks in it, etc) and your code gets rejected. You have to fix the shit before you submit. Maybe this isn't so of the little dot commy startups that dont have a single senior programmer, but most companies who actually make money off their software have a level of quality that is way beyond the junk you find on source forge or even in the linux kernel. You wont find comments like/* I knew what I was doing when I coded this */ in the middle of a function that just failed and you wont find incoherient blocks of code written by someone who didn't give you his email address before you commited it to your tree.
On the other hand, perhaps open source has something to offer, even if it is just a cheap way to exploit programmers.
I've heard this argument before and it could not be further from the trueth. In his 1944 State of the Union address, Roosevelt said:
"We have come to the clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. `Necessitous men are not free men.` People who are hungry and out of jobs are the stuff of which dictatorships are made."
Well I think I made it pretty clear that I knew nothing about China, I would prefer to hear from people who think that it is a good place to live instead of the people who think otherwise simply because they have been told to. That way I can decide whether their opinion is valuable or not from my own personal experience. Myself, I value freedom but I am open to the possibility that others may not value this nearly as highly. Should I despise these people and hurl bombs at them? Obviously not. I would also like you to remember that Maoism is a far cry from Marxism, as far as I am aware anyway. And I have to believe in a moral relativism because I have neither a foundation of religion or an effective base of moral theory that isn't written by people who I would find despicible had I ever had the oppotunity to meet them (eg Kant). If you can make any specific suggestions of O'Rourke, I would gladly read them.
so you have been to china, talked to chinese people or otherwise experienced the socialism in china for yourself? Or are you just sprouting what you have been told? Put it this way, even in a democratic republic like the USA, there are people who hate it. There are folk on the street who can tell you horror stories. Indeed theres a whole bunch of people from the late 19th century who couldn't stand capitalism any longer that they rose up in arms. All I'm asking you to do is consider the posibility that things are not as bad as they appear.
indeed. But if every man has the right to choose to be fat, dumb and happy, will they then start to get a little hostile when people like me and you start demanding that they think for themselves. So when they start calling for academics (like Felton) to be silenced, are we supposed to stand by and be complacent? In a twisted form of logic (that probably a lot of uncomputer savy people agree with) Felton is threatening their movies and music and all the little buzzes and whistles (and clowns and jugglers) that make their lives bearable. Should we fear an unthinking mass? I think so.
There may be a few happy communists, and a lot of stupid ones or ones that don't know the truth about freedom or what life could be like.
are you missing the point or what? maybe, just maybe, there are a lot of happy communists and maybe they are all smart and have willfully chosen to be restricted for the betterment of their society. Do you know? I dont. Do I have to go to China to find out?
Troll? arn't you even the slightest bit curious why someone would use the word "heroin" to describe games? porn I can see a distant relationship to if your society is very asexual, but games? Are they trying to say that good-clean-fun is the same as hard drugs? You're exactly the unthinking mass that I'm talking about.
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yawn.. if it is bad hardware then it is not my code causing the problem now is it?
They cant let you do it. TrueType and Quicktime are listed on their balance sheet as IP. Failing to defend their Patents and/or Copyright of this IP would not be in the interests of profit.
ho hum.. I thought I made my cynicism pretty clear.
blah.. these lame true democratic systems never work anyway. But even going by the definition of Flamebait, it is not something that I think should be discouraged in an open forum. If I say linux sux, you should either be adult enough to shut up and let me have a different opinion to me, or you should try to convince me otherwise. Flaming is the crime, not expressing an opinion that differs from the majority.
seems kind of hypocritical to threaten someone with the force of the state to forward the cause of freedom.
personally I want my software to work. I want the software that is running the web servers to which I connect to work. I want the software which runs my bank and my car and my coke machine to work and I know that not all of these systems are going to be open source. So if I write the best damned solenoid control software available and make sure everyone can use it, I'll be able to walk past someone banging the side of a coke machine for five minutes and say "well, it aint my code!"
too true. How many times have we heard: xyz company released abc product open source, how come they havn't released everything open source!? followed shortly by sobs and whimpering. I dont know, maybe it has something to do with making money?
The whole "flamebait" rating should be removed as it is too much of a threat to variety of opinion. Any argument which inspires others to write something insightful is valuable. So it attracts a bit of flame, so what, next to every piece of flame on this site there is someone who has an intelligent retort. I suggest that the "flamebait" moderation be replaced with a "flamer" moderation.
Indeed, if you feel the need to only use GPL software, feel free to grab that mislead BSD-license using developers code and slap the GPL license on it. Sure there would be another copy of it available under something other than the GPL, but the GPL is probably better at attracting developers (be they for purely idiological reasons or otherwise) so the GPL will surely outspace the BSD version in a few years and you can always cross port any improvements from the BSD version into the GPL version, something the BSD people cant do? What's that? You dont think that would be ethical? Oh, now I guess we both understand what the author of the article (no matter how mislead) is on about. Personally, the license is just annoying, unless you are a lawyer, so show me the damn code.
Why bother? It is perfectly legal to go grab FreeBSD and slap a GPL header on each source file, rename it to gBSD and you're done.
and you need to get out to the hood in your daddy's porsche more often if when you think of "thief" all you can conjure up is someone sitting in front of a computer playing video games.
you're right! Because that old usage of the word (theft at sea, usually followed by murder and arson) could never be used as a propoganda tool again people who didn't even leave their own house to type the word "copy". Think before you type.
the /. types will bitch and moan and do nothing, just like we always have.
yer, and no-one would go to this much trouble to make a copy of someone's confidential information. Idiot.
I never know who to hate more, the shister or the idiots who buy his warez. Truely, you would think that anyone with enough money to be interested in protecting their stuff and willing to pay for a system like this would have someone in charge who has a freakin' brain. Exactly what is the limit here? If I was to tell your CEO that I could give him eternal life (by use of a computer) would he believe me?
implying that they are not software companies, thus my entire argument does not apply! *ank*, thanks for playing.
It's easy to look at the hundreds of crappy open source projects and deduce that open source software sucks in general, but they're *visible*. You don't see the bad code in proprietary software, you just swear at Bill Gates and reboot.
/* I knew what I was doing when I coded this */ in the middle of a function that just failed and you wont find incoherient blocks of code written by someone who didn't give you his email address before you commited it to your tree.
uhh, have you ever worked for a software company? Have you ever looked at their code? In all the companies I've worked in they have had coding standards. You submit code to be reviewed that isn't up to the coding standard (that means, is not clear enough, does not have sensible comment blocks, does not do what it is supposed to do, does not have the proper asserts and safety checks in it, etc) and your code gets rejected. You have to fix the shit before you submit. Maybe this isn't so of the little dot commy startups that dont have a single senior programmer, but most companies who actually make money off their software have a level of quality that is way beyond the junk you find on source forge or even in the linux kernel. You wont find comments like
On the other hand, perhaps open source has something to offer, even if it is just a cheap way to exploit programmers.
I've heard this argument before and it could not be further from the trueth. In his 1944 State of the Union address, Roosevelt said:
"We have come to the clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. `Necessitous men are not free men.` People who are hungry and out of jobs are the stuff of which dictatorships are made."
I think that sums it up.
you dont want everyone thinking like me, trust me on this one.
Well I think I made it pretty clear that I knew nothing about China, I would prefer to hear from people who think that it is a good place to live instead of the people who think otherwise simply because they have been told to. That way I can decide whether their opinion is valuable or not from my own personal experience. Myself, I value freedom but I am open to the possibility that others may not value this nearly as highly. Should I despise these people and hurl bombs at them? Obviously not. I would also like you to remember that Maoism is a far cry from Marxism, as far as I am aware anyway. And I have to believe in a moral relativism because I have neither a foundation of religion or an effective base of moral theory that isn't written by people who I would find despicible had I ever had the oppotunity to meet them (eg Kant). If you can make any specific suggestions of O'Rourke, I would gladly read them.
so you have been to china, talked to chinese people or otherwise experienced the socialism in china for yourself? Or are you just sprouting what you have been told? Put it this way, even in a democratic republic like the USA, there are people who hate it. There are folk on the street who can tell you horror stories. Indeed theres a whole bunch of people from the late 19th century who couldn't stand capitalism any longer that they rose up in arms. All I'm asking you to do is consider the posibility that things are not as bad as they appear.
hmpft, sorry about the terrible keyboarding skills in that post. Guess I need to brush up on the old touch typing.
indeed. But if every man has the right to choose to be fat, dumb and happy, will they then start to get a little hostile when people like me and you start demanding that they think for themselves. So when they start calling for academics (like Felton) to be silenced, are we supposed to stand by and be complacent? In a twisted form of logic (that probably a lot of uncomputer savy people agree with) Felton is threatening their movies and music and all the little buzzes and whistles (and clowns and jugglers) that make their lives bearable. Should we fear an unthinking mass? I think so.
are you missing the point or what? maybe, just maybe, there are a lot of happy communists and maybe they are all smart and have willfully chosen to be restricted for the betterment of their society. Do you know? I dont. Do I have to go to China to find out?
Troll? arn't you even the slightest bit curious why someone would use the word "heroin" to describe games? porn I can see a distant relationship to if your society is very asexual, but games? Are they trying to say that good-clean-fun is the same as hard drugs? You're exactly the unthinking mass that I'm talking about.