I asked it then and I'll ask it again, if I die in a violent accident and they get me to the hospital fast enough, can they graft my head onto some recently departed (and not as well off) body and keep my ass alive until they figure out how to graft my spinal cord too? So I get to be a vegetable for 25 years instead of being dead?
last time I checked our society wasn't built by God, it was built by man and it was built to withstand the lowest of human scum. If we were all to become conivingly self interested overnight (like some great advocation of capitalism) it is desired that society will still survive. Foundation is the key word here. Who wants to live on a concrete stump? But without it your beautiful house won't survive.
Now there are some people who don't like to hear the word virtue. They beleive that it associates the word "good" with "special" people and "ordinary" with everyone else. Is a begger a bad man because he does not give to others? No, then why should I be considered a bad man for not giving welfare? But these people go one step further. As far as they are concerned giving to the poor just removes the begger's motivation to improve his lot in life.
and yet you still fail to follow the simple link on their site to their source tree and observe that it doesn't work. I know OpenOffice exists, I know Sun sponsors it, but they still have a link on their page that says "download the source" and that link still doesn't work.
Yack it up. If you go to www.Sun.com and click on StarOffice you will see "download the source".. that link is broken.. yah! I wanted to see the internal Sun tree of StarOffice and the GPL Opensource tree.
Chalk up another smart arse.. will you PLEASE pay attention. There are TWO source trees here. The GPL'd openoffice source tree and the original StarOffice 5.2 source. Now go to Sun and observe that downloading the StarOffice source is an impossibility.. for fuck sake.
Antivirus software is very different to an Office package. Antivirus includes a product AND a service. The product is the bit of code that does the scanning, the service is the different scan strings that come out every month. Why? Because there are dozens of different viruses being written every month and detecting them all generically is an intractible problem. But yes, the antivirus industry is a cartel. CARO is an organisation that you have to be a member of to write antivirus software and no-one can join CARO unless they are unaminously voted in.
yes.. it probably is that lame, but they might have some sort of brains and not allow execution before the start date, but frankly, it will be trivial to crack.
read the license below, "you have no right to distribute the software".. trading one pair of handcuffs for another?
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self interest is the basis of our society. It is the one thing that we can always assume the majority will value. Self interest is the foundation, all other virtues are built on top of that.
go try and download it dipshit. Their six mile long URLs don't work. They can't code for shit.
Why they can't just give an ftp site or, hell, a anon CVS server I don't know.
I just went and tried to download the source. After going through the stupid registration process I clicked on the download link and guess what.. it doesn't work! Yes.. figure that, after hearing advocation after advocation for StarOffice, I can't download the source. This is typical of Corps that try to jump on the open source band wagon. Trying to find out what the license is is even harder. Sad effort Sun.
So how many people are actually submitting patches to the StarOffice source? Where can I download it? Is there a CVS tree open? I remember when we all bitched and moaned that Sun had bought StarOffice and didn't release the source. Now they have released the source (I guess) and I have this terrible feeling that no-one is doing anything on it. Last time I used StarOffice it sucked.. big time. So lets get this thing working. Lets make it the best office package on earth and then at least we have something to point at. Really, it shouldn't be hard to make something better than MS Office. Word is a scary beast which constantly trys to second guess what you type and they all have that brilliant MS stability. If we can point at something terribly good then we can win, but until then we're just speaking hot air.
yes.. when X-Box finally reaches market their subscription model will move over and only corporate users will be able to get pc versions.
That oughta stop them pirates.
dipshit, they don't store their cc on their machine, they store their username/password to places like amazon on their machine (in a cookie) so they don't have to reenter it next time they go and by a book. Amazon keeps their cc details on their server (which is just fucking stupid) so they don't have to reenter them. I think the virus is a pretty good idea. Mental note: write virus.
yes.. if you were to rent the computers and run them 24/7 you could claim their usage off your tax at the end of the year, so essentially cycles cost nothing.
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KDE and GNOME suck just as bad as Microsoft's latest crapwear. If you are going to copy a UI, why not copy a good one?
I asked it then and I'll ask it again, if I die in a violent accident and they get me to the hospital fast enough, can they graft my head onto some recently departed (and not as well off) body and keep my ass alive until they figure out how to graft my spinal cord too? So I get to be a vegetable for 25 years instead of being dead?
nanotechnology.. who cares. it's a philosophical question.
last time I checked our society wasn't built by God, it was built by man and it was built to withstand the lowest of human scum. If we were all to become conivingly self interested overnight (like some great advocation of capitalism) it is desired that society will still survive. Foundation is the key word here. Who wants to live on a concrete stump? But without it your beautiful house won't survive.
Now there are some people who don't like to hear the word virtue. They beleive that it associates the word "good" with "special" people and "ordinary" with everyone else. Is a begger a bad man because he does not give to others? No, then why should I be considered a bad man for not giving welfare? But these people go one step further. As far as they are concerned giving to the poor just removes the begger's motivation to improve his lot in life.
and yet you still fail to follow the simple link on their site to their source tree and observe that it doesn't work. I know OpenOffice exists, I know Sun sponsors it, but they still have a link on their page that says "download the source" and that link still doesn't work.
Yack it up. If you go to www.Sun.com and click on StarOffice you will see "download the source".. that link is broken.. yah! I wanted to see the internal Sun tree of StarOffice and the GPL Opensource tree.
Chalk up another smart arse.. will you PLEASE pay attention. There are TWO source trees here. The GPL'd openoffice source tree and the original StarOffice 5.2 source. Now go to Sun and observe that downloading the StarOffice source is an impossibility.. for fuck sake.
try and download the source for StarOffice 5.2.
cool thanks.. trying to download it from Sun is an impossibility.
Antivirus software is very different to an Office package. Antivirus includes a product AND a service. The product is the bit of code that does the scanning, the service is the different scan strings that come out every month. Why? Because there are dozens of different viruses being written every month and detecting them all generically is an intractible problem. But yes, the antivirus industry is a cartel. CARO is an organisation that you have to be a member of to write antivirus software and no-one can join CARO unless they are unaminously voted in.
yes.. it probably is that lame, but they might have some sort of brains and not allow execution before the start date, but frankly, it will be trivial to crack.
read the license below, "you have no right to distribute the software".. trading one pair of handcuffs for another?
Binary Code License Agreement
READ THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT AND ANY PROVIDED
SUPPLEMENTAL LICENSE TERMS (COLLECTIVELY "AGREEMENT")
CAREFULLY BEFORE OPENING THE SOFTWARE MEDIA PACKAGE. BY
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OF THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU ARE ACCESSING THE SOFTWARE
ELECTRONICALLY INDICATE YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THESE TERMS BY
SELECTING THE "ACCEPT" BUTTON AT THE END OF THIS AGREEMENT.
IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO ALL OF THESE TERMS, PROMPTLY RETURN
THE UNUSED SOFTWARE TO YOUR PLACE OF PURCHASE FOR A REFUND
OR, IF THE SOFTWARE IS ACCESSED ELECTRONICALLY, SELECT THE
"CANCEL" BUTTON AT THE END OF THIS AGREEMENT.
1. License to Use. Sun grants to you a non-exclusive and
non-transferable license for the internal use only of the
accompanying software and documentation and any error
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have no right to distribute the Software.
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Title to Software and all associated intellectual property
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make copies of Software only for your internal use provided
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any trademark, service mark, logo, or trade name of Sun or
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self interest is the basis of our society. It is the one thing that we can always assume the majority will value. Self interest is the foundation, all other virtues are built on top of that.
go try and download it dipshit. Their six mile long URLs don't work. They can't code for shit.
Why they can't just give an ftp site or, hell, a anon CVS server I don't know.
I found it pretty damn funny.
I just went and tried to download the source. After going through the stupid registration process I clicked on the download link and guess what.. it doesn't work! Yes.. figure that, after hearing advocation after advocation for StarOffice, I can't download the source. This is typical of Corps that try to jump on the open source band wagon. Trying to find out what the license is is even harder. Sad effort Sun.
So how many people are actually submitting patches to the StarOffice source? Where can I download it? Is there a CVS tree open? I remember when we all bitched and moaned that Sun had bought StarOffice and didn't release the source. Now they have released the source (I guess) and I have this terrible feeling that no-one is doing anything on it. Last time I used StarOffice it sucked.. big time. So lets get this thing working. Lets make it the best office package on earth and then at least we have something to point at. Really, it shouldn't be hard to make something better than MS Office. Word is a scary beast which constantly trys to second guess what you type and they all have that brilliant MS stability. If we can point at something terribly good then we can win, but until then we're just speaking hot air.
WARNING: FUD AHEAD .NET.
Actually all your files will be stored on
FUD ENDS (or does it?)
yes.. when X-Box finally reaches market their subscription model will move over and only corporate users will be able to get pc versions.
That oughta stop them pirates.
bah.. it stores the details.. even if you use a wet piece of string to connect the server to the net it is still insecure. Amazon is stupid.
that would probably have something to do with me being an Australian.
dipshit, they don't store their cc on their machine, they store their username/password to places like amazon on their machine (in a cookie) so they don't have to reenter it next time they go and by a book. Amazon keeps their cc details on their server (which is just fucking stupid) so they don't have to reenter them. I think the virus is a pretty good idea. Mental note: write virus.
heh.. yes.. their first customer is the Cult of the Dead Cow.
yes.. if you were to rent the computers and run them 24/7 you could claim their usage off your tax at the end of the year, so essentially cycles cost nothing.
wow.. so all those windoze boxen that I have owned can earn me dollars? Cool.