The ultimate irony of OpenSSH was that it came along at almost the exact moment when it was no longer all that important. Everyone used telnet or rsh before OpenSSH became a killer app. People used OpenSSH primarily out of a fear over password sniffing on broadcast ethernet. Before that, switched networking had taken over. No-one was using T connectors and terminators by then.. and switching hubs were cheaper than broadcast hubs for UTP and active ARP attacks hadn't been demonstrated. Still, its amazing that such a good implementation of ssh came along when it did.
Thing is, high throughput molecular biology is still being done by biology post-grads pretending to be engineers (who would just be pretending to be industrialists anyway). Until we work out a way to encourage the kind of innovation and ingenuity that one sees in industry we'll never get to the bottom of all this.
Today's biology is finite component analysis done at a massive scale.. Figuring out how a machine as big as a person works is going to take millenniums.
One of the few MMOs where basically everyone was looking for bugs.. cause if you were in the matrix, that's what you'd be doing too:)
I think the most fun I ever had was when our little clan would stand around in the park and run into an area that we weren't allowed in... an agent would show up and we'd all kick the shit out of him, not that we had a chance of defeating him, and then run back into the park.. where he wouldn't follow us. Basically bear baiting.:)
But like all MMOs, it eventually became about the grind.
And so begins the "you must be a Scientologist because you don't think they should be burned at the stake" bullshit. I'm not fan of Scientologists ok? I'm just also not a fan of you crazy fuckin' Christians - or Muslims, or Jews, or Hindus, or New Age Hippies, or any of you other fucktards who believe shit that is not only physically impossible but logically ridiculous. But if you wanna be a retard, don't pick on the other retards. And don't go suggesting that any of the crazy shit you believe is sane because so many other people buy into it.
So are you saying that it is ok for other people, who are not committing fraud, to charge $2000, for a box full of $50 parts if someone is willing to pay? Or is that wrong too? Do manufacturers have a responsibility to reveal their costs? If it's irrelevant, why bring it up?
Hehe.. so that whole competition and free market thing.. we can skip that right? If it costs $5 to make and they're charging $500, that's a scam -- it doesn't matter that no-one else is selling it? There doesn't need to be competition to drive down the price?
You're an AC, so it's pointless replying to you, but maybe someone will read this and get some clarity.
We were talking about fraud.. to claim that someone has committed that crime you have to prove they misrepresented something.. i.e., they lied, and you can prove that they did. All I was saying that all the lies of Christianity are not disprovable. That is, I say they're lies, but I can't prove it. Therefore it isn't fraud.
You don't actually think Canonical does any of the work which goes into Ubuntu do ya? They're a distro.. they do packaging, packaging and, occasionally, net manager.
Umm. Do you believe in zombie Jesus or not? Do you believe in an omnipresent father-like God? Do you believe in an afterlife? Cause if you do, you're insane. Maybe not clinically insane.. but you're clearly susceptible to bullshit which makes you behave in a way that is irrational.
What is so weird and whacky about the fundamental tenet of "love thy neighbour as you love yourself"?
Hehehe.. it's the whole zombie Jesus raising from the dead and did we mention that he's actually God in human form, after impregnating his own mother, oh, and God invented the universe in 6 days too. Ya can't just pick and choose the bits that make sense to you and then get surprised when people paint you with the same brush as your insane fellow cultists.
Yeah, agreed. The problem is the article is so scant on details that as far as I can tell the woman is complaining that she bought a bunch of stuff that didn't work. Does she have any of these claims that they do work in writing? The last complaint is that she bought something from the Scientologists for 5 times what she could have bought it for... no-where is that fraud.
Without details, I can only make general statements about the general stupidity of people everywhere.
Yeah, that whole indoctrination of the young thing is irrelevant, right?
Christianity is just as wacky and weird.. it's just that we all know that stuff.. if Scientology lasts 100 years we'll all be able to recite their theology too.
Umm.. I agree with him, Scientology is a bunch of nutjobs. What he doesn't seem to have expressed an opinion on is the nutjobness of Christians. So who is not dealing with whom honestly?
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The ultimate irony of OpenSSH was that it came along at almost the exact moment when it was no longer all that important. Everyone used telnet or rsh before OpenSSH became a killer app. People used OpenSSH primarily out of a fear over password sniffing on broadcast ethernet. Before that, switched networking had taken over. No-one was using T connectors and terminators by then.. and switching hubs were cheaper than broadcast hubs for UTP and active ARP attacks hadn't been demonstrated. Still, its amazing that such a good implementation of ssh came along when it did.
That's an awesome suggestion.
Add to that the fact that the guy made me think about Xmas in May.
Thing is, high throughput molecular biology is still being done by biology post-grads pretending to be engineers (who would just be pretending to be industrialists anyway). Until we work out a way to encourage the kind of innovation and ingenuity that one sees in industry we'll never get to the bottom of all this.
Today's biology is finite component analysis done at a massive scale.. Figuring out how a machine as big as a person works is going to take millenniums.
One of the few MMOs where basically everyone was looking for bugs.. cause if you were in the matrix, that's what you'd be doing too :)
I think the most fun I ever had was when our little clan would stand around in the park and run into an area that we weren't allowed in... an agent would show up and we'd all kick the shit out of him, not that we had a chance of defeating him, and then run back into the park.. where he wouldn't follow us. Basically bear baiting. :)
But like all MMOs, it eventually became about the grind.
Ya, and compared to Jack Black I'm actually kinda attractive.
And so begins the "you must be a Scientologist because you don't think they should be burned at the stake" bullshit. I'm not fan of Scientologists ok? I'm just also not a fan of you crazy fuckin' Christians - or Muslims, or Jews, or Hindus, or New Age Hippies, or any of you other fucktards who believe shit that is not only physically impossible but logically ridiculous. But if you wanna be a retard, don't pick on the other retards. And don't go suggesting that any of the crazy shit you believe is sane because so many other people buy into it.
So are you saying that it is ok for other people, who are not committing fraud, to charge $2000, for a box full of $50 parts if someone is willing to pay? Or is that wrong too? Do manufacturers have a responsibility to reveal their costs? If it's irrelevant, why bring it up?
Yes, absolutely, they do.. except for the whole patches upstream part.. last I heard, that doesn't actually happen. Bug reports upstream, sure.
Hehe.. so that whole competition and free market thing.. we can skip that right? If it costs $5 to make and they're charging $500, that's a scam -- it doesn't matter that no-one else is selling it? There doesn't need to be competition to drive down the price?
You're an AC, so it's pointless replying to you, but maybe someone will read this and get some clarity.
We were talking about fraud.. to claim that someone has committed that crime you have to prove they misrepresented something.. i.e., they lied, and you can prove that they did. All I was saying that all the lies of Christianity are not disprovable. That is, I say they're lies, but I can't prove it. Therefore it isn't fraud.
You don't actually think Canonical does any of the work which goes into Ubuntu do ya? They're a distro.. they do packaging, packaging and, occasionally, net manager.
Maybe one day phones will become open platforms, but yeah, I'm not gunna hold my breath :)
I'd rather run Ubuntu on my smart phone.
Once the box was filled with $20 worth of materials, the loser had to pay near $2000 for it as I recall
Ummmm.. what's the price of manufacture got to do with the price at sale?
Umm. Do you believe in zombie Jesus or not? Do you believe in an omnipresent father-like God? Do you believe in an afterlife? Cause if you do, you're insane. Maybe not clinically insane.. but you're clearly susceptible to bullshit which makes you behave in a way that is irrational.
Like the Slashdot cult. :)
What is so weird and whacky about the fundamental tenet of "love thy neighbour as you love yourself"?
Hehehe.. it's the whole zombie Jesus raising from the dead and did we mention that he's actually God in human form, after impregnating his own mother, oh, and God invented the universe in 6 days too. Ya can't just pick and choose the bits that make sense to you and then get surprised when people paint you with the same brush as your insane fellow cultists.
Mormons are Christians. You wanna rethink what you said now?
So the Mormons.. they're not a mainstream church eh?
Do you just define your terms to make your arguments true or what?
But you have an informed choice to believe in Zombie Jesus or not to.
What part of indoctrination of the young don't you understand?
Generally, Christians won't shun you if you leave
Have you never heard of ex-communication?
Yeah, agreed. The problem is the article is so scant on details that as far as I can tell the woman is complaining that she bought a bunch of stuff that didn't work. Does she have any of these claims that they do work in writing? The last complaint is that she bought something from the Scientologists for 5 times what she could have bought it for... no-where is that fraud.
Without details, I can only make general statements about the general stupidity of people everywhere.
Ya.. that's the definition of fraud.
You have to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the accused willfully lied. I can't really imagine how they're going to do that in this case.
Yeah, that whole indoctrination of the young thing is irrelevant, right?
Christianity is just as wacky and weird.. it's just that we all know that stuff.. if Scientology lasts 100 years we'll all be able to recite their theology too.
In the mean time, save me zombie Jesus!
Umm.. I agree with him, Scientology is a bunch of nutjobs. What he doesn't seem to have expressed an opinion on is the nutjobness of Christians. So who is not dealing with whom honestly?