You just HADDA mention the big "B-word" didn't you. Heh heh. Personally, I find it kinda funny that the fastest computer in the world resides in SNL. Just keep it away from Hanz and Franz, the Samurai, and Rob Schnieder (RED! RED-A-RINO! REDINATOR! RED!)
AMD has "A" chipset. VIA is delaying their Athlon development in anticipation of i820. Athlon motherboards, though produced by numerous companies, are still heartbreakingly scarce outside of OEM channels.
If AMD produced a 1 Ghz chip, GREAT! Copper interconnects? Stellar! What's it run on right now? A 100 Mhz DDR bus (which is how they get the "200 Mhz bus" claim) with PC100 RAM, AGP2x, and UDMA/33?
Many of the businesses I work with tell me that until the K7 platform drops an SMP board on the market, they aren't interested.
Which brings us back to "Weird Al" and it being "All about the Pentiums". Name recognition. Until AMD can successfully break the name recognition that Intel has with it's Pentium line, AMD's going to be coming in second. Ever ask a semi-computer literate person what kind of computer they have? OR have them ask you what sort of computer you have? "Is it a Pentium"?
No it doesn't mean people don't buy AMD-based systems. The price of them attracts people. But most of their thinking tends to involve their computer universe revolving around Intel.
In addition, for low end serving and productivity, many IT departments still swear by Intel. And the Celeron has taken away the price issue that AMD held over Intel with their K6 line. The old "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" mindset.
Hopefully, now that AMD has amputated parts of itself to gain some cash, they can start turning a profit. They need to do it soon. Because they're hemmoraging money the way a hemophiliac would after being dropped into a swimming pool filled with razorblades.
In addition, AMD has a massive problem. They need to retool their next generation of K7's to use an on-die cache, as their current on-board cache architecture will leave them with two options.
Move to progressively higher speed cache modules and watch the price of the CPU skyrocket to Xeon-line sums.
Keep adding new cache dividers and make do with current cache speeds (which will save money in the long run, but will quickly castrate the chip.
In some hardware boards, some people are talking about K7's with 1MB of on-die cache as consumer-grade chips. NOT going to happen. For a clue, let's look at the current P3 die and the Coppermine die. The core's are virtually identical (SOME tweaking has been done).
Athlon: 23 million transistors
P3: 9.5 million transistors
CuMine: 28 million transistors.
The trans count has tripled! Why?
Athlon: 23M trans core and 64K of L1 cache. Off-die L2 cache.
P3: 9.5M trans core and 32K of L1 cache. Off-die L2 cache.
CuMine: 10M trans core and 32K of L1 cache. 18M trans for 256K of on-die L2 cache.
So a quarter meg of cache runs about 18M transistors. Tack that onto an Athlon core and we're talking 42 million transistors. Tough to guarantee good yields for right now, but still possibly doable.
But when we move up to 1MB of cache or 2MB we run start running into MAJOR problems.
Athlon core: 23M trans
256K*4=1MB (18*4=72): 72M trans for 1MB L2 cache.
256*8=2MB (18*8=144): 144M trans for 2MB L2 cache.
1MB On-die Athlon=95M transistors
2MB On-die Athlon=167M transistors.
Now 95 million transistors is REALLY not economically feasible for AMD. Even with a shrink to the.18 micron process. The manufacturing process will shrink transistor size by roughly 28%. But the die compexity will for the 1 and 2MB chips would grow by a factor of 4 and 7 respectively. The actual cores themselves would be 3 and 5 times as large as the current Athlon is. And the Athlon core is already HUGE by any measure.
Ah well. Here's hoping that the competition continues.
Jeeze. Just when you'd thought they'd found a way to squeeze every last nickel out of you, they come up with a new one!
One of the reasons people use the machines is because the price of the soda is always the same! I don't want to run downstairs at work one night and find that the $0.65 I scrapped together to get me a Coke ain't gonna be enough because they didn't fill the machine and got greedy with the price of the last couple cans!
If I run across one of these machines, I'd rather do without than buy from one. Or I'll just start buying the $0.58 2 liter bottles of the generic cola from WalMart and bringing that.
I mean, I'm willing to pay a premium for convenience. But really! I draw the line at paying EVEN MORE of a premium because the temperature is over 80 degrees Farenheit that day!
I don't think the question asked reaches far enough. It ignores what Linux has done to draw greater attention to the OSS community. IMNSHO, OSS has benefitted from having Linux as it's poster child, and Linux has DEFINITELY benefitted from open source. OSS has gained:
A fast, powerful, simple, WORKING kernel that works across a range of platforms (what are there, like 8-9 architectures now that can run Linux?) Not only that, the openness of the kernel, and the ever expanding uses that computers are put to virtually guarantees that development and extension will take place for some time to come.
LOTS of publicity. How many OSS projects are out there? How many of them are getting publicity?
KDE
Gnome
Enlightenment
Gimp
Distributions in general
XFree
Apache,etc
In addition, there are many more high-profile personalities out there (than just ESR) now, that are heavily involved with Linux-based OSS projects.
Companies and computing groups founded on OSS projects that are making significant contributions to OSS and computing in general. Not only this, but they show that programmers are able to make a living doing this.
Linux has gained:
A vast catalogue of apps that FSF had going for it.
By opening their source, they gained a huge amount of support and bug tracking that NO other operating system can match.
By opening their source, they've gained the ability to outgrow bad or closed code. If an application's writer isn't responsive to bug reports or refuses to keep up with the code, forking is an option. This will either result in a superior product by a 3rd party (by superior, I mean it addresses issues not being addressed by the initial source tree) or will push original source maintainer to become more responsive or be left behind.
Opening the source has also given Linux the ability to be heavily customized on the user, application, and implementation levels.
User level: How the interfaces perform/react/look (Gnome/KDE)
Application level: How the applications themselves perform and what they do. (Apache and it's options for Perl, PHP, etc)
Implementation level: What the system, as a whole, can be configured to do/perform. (The Linux Router Project, Beowulf (hadda sneak in that mention somewhere!), embedded systems, etc)
These may strike some as needless distinctions, but it brings attention to the multiple levels of granularity and customizability in the Linux OS system. Some due to factors intrinsic to Linux itself, some due to the benefits and influences from the OSS movement.
Suffice it to say that, while Linux would probably still exist without OSS, it would probably not resemble the Linux we know today. In addition, OSS would still exist without Linux, but it would also bear little resemblence to the OSS community we know today. In either case, we would still be the poorer for not having said symbiosis.
I initially started out on RH 5.0. Was great. Worked nice, and was really stable.
I upgraded to 6.0 right after it came out. BIG MISTAKE. It had major problems with my cablemodem service. And, even after upgrading the Pump package and trying to just use straight DHCP, I STILL couldn't get it to come up online.
Then came the round-robin Linux installs. Wasn't really impressed by Mandrake (which also wasn't working). Shelled out for a copy of SuSE. SuSE was kinda BEASTLY to install (YAST has a long way to go before it's as easy as the OLD RH installer was). That and I found that the Intellimouse drivers in SuSE 6.2 didn't work with my OEM Intellimouse.
So I snagged one of these Teach Yourself Linux books that had a copy of COL 2.2 with it.
Let's just say I was MIGHTILY impressed with Lizard. It's the easiest OS install I've ever had. Just sucks the doors off RH and blows out Windows so thoroughly that it's not even funny.
Was still having the problems with my OEM Intellimouse though. So I snagged a retail copy of COL 2.3. Wonder of wonders, EVERYTHING WORKED!
Now before I sound like I'm completely a COL-dog, I DID have some problems with COL 2.3. Compared to other distros like RH, it's "full install" is sparse. Compared to SuSE's "if it runs on Linux, it's installed!" full setup, it seems like a kernel-only install.
Upon looking to a mailing list for help with KSIRC, I found that it was damn near idle and a goodly number of people responded that they'd switched to X-Chat.
Also, I was having MAJOR problems with error messages in COL. Sometimes I'd open something up and get a endless string of EM's that's proceed to grind the machine to a reboot-forcing halt. Also, trying to get the updated RPM's from Caldera's site, or one of there mirrors was a joke and a half.
Finally, disgusted with the problems I'd been having, I snagged a copy of RH 6.1 (Cartman) and installed that. Few problems.
For some reason, the ISO I have only installs a specific setup. Wether I select Gnome Workstation, KDE Workstation, Webserver, or Custom install, I would get an identical setup with a small selection of packages (was able to install other packages later). That sorta cheesed me off. Am also cheesed that the new update manager required a ID number (which you can only get by buying the RH retail package).
On the whole, Linux is improving rapidly. Unfortunately, several ugly little conventions are creeping in (like the update ID thing).
That abundance of choices doesn't necessarily indicate fragmentation. In fact, use of different formats for various applications creates a niche for compatibility, either through the development by the primary applications' projects (Gnome and KDE) or through a third party (RPM, Debs, and Alien).
Are going to happen, or would necessarily be flattering. Let's face it, blasting out line after line of code is a fairly solitary passtime. Sure you stop to talk to others and maybe show it off, but to most people, even those who know what you're doing, it's BORING, since they're not doing it as well.
It's the difference between watching sex and having sex. No comments about my lack of a personal life here!
Also, I severely doubt that there are many supermodels (male or female) who sit behind a desk and knock out code not that I wouldn't like that. And lets face it, not many people are going to want to see the hacker/cracker/phreak community, warts and all. They'd rather see a bunch of attractive kids going through the motions and dropping buzzwords (Hackers). Or they want a plot where the passtime is only lightly touched upon and is used more as a MaguffinSP? in a large and complex plot (Sneakers).
Your #1 point is contradicted by your #3 point. If they have a decent GUI, they most certainly will NOT be using CLI.
"Joe Blow" should NOT be admin-ing a server. He should have a simple user account that automatically boots into a GUI for him.
See point #1 of this reply.
Hardware vendors shouldn't be the ones taking care of the techsup (unless they've built their own personal distro. And there ARE support contracts for several major distros of Linux, as well as third-party support companies.
The "lack of speed" at which drivers are developed for Linux is a direct result of the current Microsoft-centric outlook on the market. This is how stuff like Winmodems came to be. Don't blame the Linux community if a company doesn't release specs for a new/popular piece of hardware.
The Linux development community HAS taken cues from Microsoft and Apple. Notice how much more full-featured and stable a base install of Linux is compared to your little Windows box?
All better hardware support is, is a reflection of the MS marketing muscle and market penetration. This does NOT make the OS itself superior, since hardware drivers != the OS. Hardware drivers are tools utilized by the OS.
There's so much of this in the ground already it's not even funny. If the telcos were to light it all tomorrow, with currently utilized gear, the US would have nearly THREE TIMES the bandwidth that's available now.
Yeah. The mega-bandwidth that this would provide makes me drool. But the cost of implementing it would be horrendous.
And we all KNOW Ma Bell ain't gonna just eat the bill for it. Well.... We don't know. But we could make some guesses and stand a really good chance of being spot on. =)
$5 for a 2 minute call to my next door neighbor!!!!!!!
So a ONE WAY trip at the speed of light would take approximately 104 days 4 hours. A round trip would be another 104 days and 4 hours. Now assuming that Fiber connections can actually push data at light speed, it'd take 208 days, 8 hours for the round trip, plus a couple seconds for the server to respond to the 1/3 of a year old request.
What IS the timeout period for IIP? (Interstellar IP)
Hey Rob. What kind of transfer rates do you think Slashdot would get if we dropped the servers on this planet and strung it to earth with a couple bazillion miles of fiber? (Well. Other than the 208 day lagtime between and receipt, receipt, and then final delivery of the page. that is.......)
Caldera 1.3? We have two options here. I'll address both.
TYPO I don't see what could POSSIBLY have been all that tough as to take 8 hours of this man's time. Caldera 2.3 is even easier to set up than Redhat 6! Some leeway can be given because the guy admits he's a complete newbie. But all you really have to do in Caldera is make easy choices (desktop system, web server, everything, etc), and keep hitting NEXT.
NOT A TYPO The man is completely hopeless. This is something akin to installing Windows 1.0 on your brand new Athlon 650 with a Winmodem, GeForce vidcard, MX300 sound card, ATA/66 hard drives, and wondering why the hell it doesn't recognize anything. I know newbies don't know a lot about what they're doing. But most of the neophytes I deal with at least look for the latest version!
Also, the person never once thought of turning to the community itself to ask for help.
The reason Linux used to not be widely used is that you used to have to hack and patch the daemon in. This really isn't the case anymore, though inertia, more than anything else has kept the big guys away from it.
I know at least a dozen smaller servers (my own included) that use Linux and run an IRC Daemon, along with services. The only service interruptions we've had has been power problems at the provider.
Far more stable than NT and that Conference Room garbage (I know for a fact, because I used CR as an IRC server before switching to Linux....haven't looked back yet).
NSI needs to get back to what they're SUPPOSED to be doing.
ADMINISTERING DOMAIN NAMES!
If we want free junk-mail accounts we'll go to the pros for that. That's what S'notmail and Juno and all the other freemail providers are out there doing.
I think NSI is targetting the wrong segment of the entire internet market to try and compete in. A thoroughly useless gesture at best.
Simply running an OS that's used in servers doesn't mean you're running a server. Check the service agreement. They don't SUPPORT anything but Windows. But, if you're willing to do without techsupport, past telling you the cablemodem and connection are fine, you can run *nix, you can run Be, you can run anything you like.
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It would have been a shame and a waste to see the company just disappear.
1999-10-29 17:44:07 Guillemot acquires Hercules (articles,graphics) (rejected)
Guillemot Acquires Hercules: Posted by Hemos on 06:58 PM October 30th, 1999 CST
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Heh heh. I think this'll put the scalability and HA gripes to rest.
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You just HADDA mention the big "B-word" didn't you. Heh heh. Personally, I find it kinda funny that the fastest computer in the world resides in SNL. Just keep it away from Hanz and Franz, the Samurai, and Rob Schnieder (RED! RED-A-RINO! REDINATOR! RED!)
Chas - The one, the only.
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AMD has "A" chipset. VIA is delaying their Athlon development in anticipation of i820. Athlon motherboards, though produced by numerous companies, are still heartbreakingly scarce outside of OEM channels.
If AMD produced a 1 Ghz chip, GREAT! Copper interconnects? Stellar! What's it run on right now? A 100 Mhz DDR bus (which is how they get the "200 Mhz bus" claim) with PC100 RAM, AGP2x, and UDMA/33?
Many of the businesses I work with tell me that until the K7 platform drops an SMP board on the market, they aren't interested.
Which brings us back to "Weird Al" and it being "All about the Pentiums". Name recognition. Until AMD can successfully break the name recognition that Intel has with it's Pentium line, AMD's going to be coming in second. Ever ask a semi-computer literate person what kind of computer they have? OR have them ask you what sort of computer you have? "Is it a Pentium"?
No it doesn't mean people don't buy AMD-based systems. The price of them attracts people. But most of their thinking tends to involve their computer universe revolving around Intel.
In addition, for low end serving and productivity, many IT departments still swear by Intel. And the Celeron has taken away the price issue that AMD held over Intel with their K6 line. The old "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" mindset.
Hopefully, now that AMD has amputated parts of itself to gain some cash, they can start turning a profit. They need to do it soon. Because they're hemmoraging money the way a hemophiliac would after being dropped into a swimming pool filled with razorblades.
In addition, AMD has a massive problem. They need to retool their next generation of K7's to use an on-die cache, as their current on-board cache architecture will leave them with two options.
In some hardware boards, some people are talking about K7's with 1MB of on-die cache as consumer-grade chips. NOT going to happen. For a clue, let's look at the current P3 die and the Coppermine die. The core's are virtually identical (SOME tweaking has been done).
The trans count has tripled! Why?
So a quarter meg of cache runs about 18M transistors. Tack that onto an Athlon core and we're talking 42 million transistors. Tough to guarantee good yields for right now, but still possibly doable.
But when we move up to 1MB of cache or 2MB we run start running into MAJOR problems.
Now 95 million transistors is REALLY not economically feasible for AMD. Even with a shrink to the .18 micron process. The manufacturing process will shrink transistor size by roughly 28%. But the die compexity will for the 1 and 2MB chips would grow by a factor of 4 and 7 respectively. The actual cores themselves would be 3 and 5 times as large as the current Athlon is. And the Athlon core is already HUGE by any measure.
Ah well. Here's hoping that the competition continues.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Jeeze. Just when you'd thought they'd found a way to squeeze every last nickel out of you, they come up with a new one!
One of the reasons people use the machines is because the price of the soda is always the same! I don't want to run downstairs at work one night and find that the $0.65 I scrapped together to get me a Coke ain't gonna be enough because they didn't fill the machine and got greedy with the price of the last couple cans!
If I run across one of these machines, I'd rather do without than buy from one. Or I'll just start buying the $0.58 2 liter bottles of the generic cola from WalMart and bringing that.
I mean, I'm willing to pay a premium for convenience. But really! I draw the line at paying EVEN MORE of a premium because the temperature is over 80 degrees Farenheit that day!
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Not only that, the openness of the kernel, and the ever expanding uses that computers are put to virtually guarantees that development and extension will take place for some time to come.
In addition, there are many more high-profile personalities out there (than just ESR) now, that are heavily involved with Linux-based OSS projects.
Linux has gained:
These may strike some as needless distinctions, but it brings attention to the multiple levels of granularity and customizability in the Linux OS system. Some due to factors intrinsic to Linux itself, some due to the benefits and influences from the OSS movement.
Suffice it to say that, while Linux would probably still exist without OSS, it would probably not resemble the Linux we know today. In addition, OSS would still exist without Linux, but it would also bear little resemblence to the OSS community we know today. In either case, we would still be the poorer for not having said symbiosis.
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I have no real reason to upgrade right now. My P3 450 does everything I ask of it right now.
Maybe in 12-18 months I'll upgrade again. Be it Intel or AMD. Whichever one gives me the best performance for my money.
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Man. I wonder how much work we can do with this in a Beowulf cluster.......
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The sooner we have a viable DVD implementation, the sooner I can be rid of my Windows partition forever. It sucks to have to reboot to watch a movie.
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Go Caldera Open Linux 2.3 with KDE.
It's pretty much brain dead. And once it's set up, you can pretty much leave it alone.
KDE is pretty much straightforward.
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I initially started out on RH 5.0. Was great. Worked nice, and was really stable.
I upgraded to 6.0 right after it came out. BIG MISTAKE. It had major problems with my cablemodem service. And, even after upgrading the Pump package and trying to just use straight DHCP, I STILL couldn't get it to come up online.
Then came the round-robin Linux installs. Wasn't really impressed by Mandrake (which also wasn't working). Shelled out for a copy of SuSE. SuSE was kinda BEASTLY to install (YAST has a long way to go before it's as easy as the OLD RH installer was). That and I found that the Intellimouse drivers in SuSE 6.2 didn't work with my OEM Intellimouse.
So I snagged one of these Teach Yourself Linux books that had a copy of COL 2.2 with it.
Let's just say I was MIGHTILY impressed with Lizard. It's the easiest OS install I've ever had. Just sucks the doors off RH and blows out Windows so thoroughly that it's not even funny.
Was still having the problems with my OEM Intellimouse though. So I snagged a retail copy of COL 2.3. Wonder of wonders, EVERYTHING WORKED!
Now before I sound like I'm completely a COL-dog, I DID have some problems with COL 2.3. Compared to other distros like RH, it's "full install" is sparse. Compared to SuSE's "if it runs on Linux, it's installed!" full setup, it seems like a kernel-only install.
Upon looking to a mailing list for help with KSIRC, I found that it was damn near idle and a goodly number of people responded that they'd switched to X-Chat.
Also, I was having MAJOR problems with error messages in COL. Sometimes I'd open something up and get a endless string of EM's that's proceed to grind the machine to a reboot-forcing halt. Also, trying to get the updated RPM's from Caldera's site, or one of there mirrors was a joke and a half.
Finally, disgusted with the problems I'd been having, I snagged a copy of RH 6.1 (Cartman) and installed that. Few problems.
For some reason, the ISO I have only installs a specific setup. Wether I select Gnome Workstation, KDE Workstation, Webserver, or Custom install, I would get an identical setup with a small selection of packages (was able to install other packages later). That sorta cheesed me off. Am also cheesed that the new update manager required a ID number (which you can only get by buying the RH retail package).
On the whole, Linux is improving rapidly. Unfortunately, several ugly little conventions are creeping in (like the update ID thing).
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THANK GOD!!!
That abundance of choices doesn't necessarily indicate fragmentation. In fact, use of different formats for various applications creates a niche for compatibility, either through the development by the primary applications' projects (Gnome and KDE) or through a third party (RPM, Debs, and Alien).
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Are going to happen, or would necessarily be flattering. Let's face it, blasting out line after line of code is a fairly solitary passtime. Sure you stop to talk to others and maybe show it off, but to most people, even those who know what you're doing, it's BORING, since they're not doing it as well.
It's the difference between watching sex and having sex. No comments about my lack of a personal life here!
Also, I severely doubt that there are many supermodels (male or female) who sit behind a desk and knock out code not that I wouldn't like that. And lets face it, not many people are going to want to see the hacker/cracker/phreak community, warts and all. They'd rather see a bunch of attractive kids going through the motions and dropping buzzwords (Hackers). Or they want a plot where the passtime is only lightly touched upon and is used more as a MaguffinSP? in a large and complex plot (Sneakers).
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You forget something though.
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All better hardware support is, is a reflection of the MS marketing muscle and market penetration. This does NOT make the OS itself superior, since hardware drivers != the OS. Hardware drivers are tools utilized by the OS.
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There's so much of this in the ground already it's not even funny. If the telcos were to light it all tomorrow, with currently utilized gear, the US would have nearly THREE TIMES the bandwidth that's available now.
Yeah. The mega-bandwidth that this would provide makes me drool. But the cost of implementing it would be horrendous.
And we all KNOW Ma Bell ain't gonna just eat the bill for it. Well.... We don't know. But we could make some guesses and stand a really good chance of being spot on. =)
$5 for a 2 minute call to my next door neighbor!!!!!!!
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Hey Rob. What kind of transfer rates do you think Slashdot would get if we dropped the servers on this planet and strung it to earth with a couple bazillion miles of fiber? (Well. Other than the 208 day lagtime between and receipt, receipt, and then final delivery of the page. that is.......)
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Athlon's current bus speed is 100Mhz.
It transfers data on the rise and fall of the clock cycle. Hence "200 Mhz".
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The things we'll do to deliver a warm pizza.
Cut to a scene of the pizza boy sitting directly under the main booster with a bewildered look on his face
FWOOOOSH!
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Okay, this is possibly redundant.
Caldera 1.3? We have two options here. I'll address both.
I don't see what could POSSIBLY have been all that tough as to take 8 hours of this man's time. Caldera 2.3 is even easier to set up than Redhat 6! Some leeway can be given because the guy admits he's a complete newbie. But all you really have to do in Caldera is make easy choices (desktop system, web server, everything, etc), and keep hitting NEXT.
The man is completely hopeless. This is something akin to installing Windows 1.0 on your brand new Athlon 650 with a Winmodem, GeForce vidcard, MX300 sound card, ATA/66 hard drives, and wondering why the hell it doesn't recognize anything. I know newbies don't know a lot about what they're doing. But most of the neophytes I deal with at least look for the latest version!
Also, the person never once thought of turning to the community itself to ask for help.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
The reason Linux used to not be widely used is that you used to have to hack and patch the daemon in. This really isn't the case anymore, though inertia, more than anything else has kept the big guys away from it.
I know at least a dozen smaller servers (my own included) that use Linux and run an IRC Daemon, along with services. The only service interruptions we've had has been power problems at the provider.
Far more stable than NT and that Conference Room garbage (I know for a fact, because I used CR as an IRC server before switching to Linux....haven't looked back yet).
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
NSI needs to get back to what they're SUPPOSED to be doing.
ADMINISTERING DOMAIN NAMES!
If we want free junk-mail accounts we'll go to the pros for that. That's what S'notmail and Juno and all the other freemail providers are out there doing.
I think NSI is targetting the wrong segment of the entire internet market to try and compete in. A thoroughly useless gesture at best.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Simply running an OS that's used in servers doesn't mean you're running a server. Check the service agreement. They don't SUPPORT anything but Windows. But, if you're willing to do without techsupport, past telling you the cablemodem and connection are fine, you can run *nix, you can run Be, you can run anything you like.
Just don't run daemons. YES! It's that simple.
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How many hours of Quake2 did I play before I arrived at this soloution?
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