Man how true it is. I can't believe all the people here that bash Microsoft for their apparent lack of security. I mean whats the problem with checking for patches for your server every hour or so? Even if some of the patches are so bad they crash apps on your server and prevent others from starting. I mean, what is the big deal?
Hang on a second... it has been 30 seconds since I last checked Microsoft for another security update...
Ok, I now have another 90MB file I need to apply to the 200 NT boxes I have.... Like I was saying what the heck is the big deal? So what that most vendors release stuff on NT boxes that requires certain service packs, and won't work with others? Yeah this makes server consoldation impossible but who really cares? It isn't that big of a deal, just buy another box. Heck we plan on buying another hundred or so this year.
Hang on a second it has been another 5 min since my last check at Microsoft for another update...
Wow only two new updates! This is a first! Now, as I was saying, these open source "Quality is important" types are just zealots. They just don't understand that it isn't that big of a deal to support Windows.
Sorry, hang on a second... a new Worm just hit or email server...
Now where was I? Oh yeah, the advantages of running Windows... You have one consistant platform. Well we will when we finally get our 200 NT boxes upgraded to Win2k server. Dag gone it, I have to go and talk to our Microsoft rep again... be back in 15 min...
Ok I just found out that Windows 2003 server is out now and EVERYONE is going to it. The nice thing is that Microsoft will let us keep running our Win2k servers until the end of the year! Yeah I would like to see what you open source people say about that! See Microsoft isn't bad at all. They even told us that we could run 2003 Server for a full 3 years! Man that will make life great!
So let all the bitching begin about Microsoft over one SMALL bug! They just don't know what they are talking about...
I agree with our main point. However don't blame Sun too much for the crap that was KVM. Remember they turned that over to "PALM" to head up. I never understood that at all. Why would Palm EVER want to support JAVA? They owned like 90+% of the PDA market. They want people to write to their platform, not a generic one, that would let people move off of Palm.
I currently have an Ipaq, and it runs java via some JVM supplied by compaq. It looked cool and I thouht it would be great because this thing runs at 400mhz! Well, it doesn't support SWING... man that kinda sucks for what I would want to do with it.
Great post. I have a few Windows NT 4.x and some 2k boxes. How do I admin the NT 4.x box with SSH?
The overall point that is trying to be made is that Linux/Unix has for 20 some years (less with Linux) been designed as a command line system. Windows has not. To some degree Windows has not taken security seriously either. So when you say admin a Windows box with any of their remote tools, it scares most admins, because of Microsoft's track record with security. I personally wouln't want to activate any of those services on a Win2k/2003 box that is live on the web. Come to think of it I would be afraid of putting any windows box live on the web. Look at the last security hole found in 2k/2003. It was found just last week! Not much of a hole though... it just let someone take control of your machine!
Now you could firewall off your stuff and have some VPN access in to your place, then use those services. Just more work, slower response time and more complicated. Also, the points of Windows being easier to admin now go away, because you would no longer be using a GUI.
Your first question is can.Net scale? Answer is yes. The second question is can.Net scale on your budget? That is much harder question to answer. My initial reaction is no, given your concernes and the amount of effort you have already put in to it.
I am by no means a fan of Microsoft. To be honest I hope that your projects dies, and this can be added to the long list of people that I know who bet the farm on Microsoft just to either have far more NT servers than employees, or they go out of business... but I will give my 2 cents.
You seem to have defined some of the basic bottlenecks of performance. What you appear to leave out is what happens at certain loads. Does the system die? Probably not, but what happens to the response time? What are the acceptable requirements for the system? You may find 25 seconds for a page to load unacceptable, but the users may not. Either way it will let you know what goal you need to hit. Can you configure your DB to use less or more RAM?
Next, is it for sure processor load that is the issue? My guess is that you would be far better off with an x86 chip with more cache and stronger memory bandwidth than a standard P4. Granted this involves another hardware purchase, but if that becomes an option at all look at an Operton or Xeon chip in a 2 way system. You can get one of those systems well under 4 grand. The Opteron flat out rocks and the new Xeon 3GHZ with 1MB cache should be hitting the streets soon.
Not knowing much about the dark sides languages (Java is my thing), are you using one database connection throughout your application? Not returning it back to a connection pool, but storing it in the session object? This can have a significant impact on performance.
Seeing that you said you talked to a SQL Server expert (I have never met one), I will assume that he looked through the code and optimized all the SQL. Everyone seems to be taking cheap shots an d saying you should have used product X, well here is my cheap shot... Next time use Oracle! I repeat next time use Oracle! Ok, it bears repeating one more time.... next time use Oracle. Granted it is expensive, but you are learning a lesson that a ton of shops here in Indy have had to learn the hard way. Well what the heck next time use Java + JBOSS or Resin + Oracle + Linux. In our environment it flat out rocks.
What else is running on the box? You can buy a sub $500 machine to move all the DNS AD stuff to it. Not sure how much that impacts performance though... it may not be worth it. But my point is to turn off every unused service. Also, I will assume that you have applied every service pack, and called Microsoft. Since you are using ALL their products, you would think that they would help you. God I would love to be in on that call!!! All I ever hear them say is "You need to get off of product x" and use our product.
Generally what I find to be the issue with performance is SQL and DB access. The code takes around nothing to execute processor wise. Now what kind of DB are you talking about? How many tables and how many rows in each table. What kind of transactions do you do (mostly inserts or querys). Are the indexes setup correctly on the tables? Could you flatten some relationships down?
Ok the unenployment figures are known joke. Please NOTE that they only track people who are CURRENTLY unenployed! I know at least 10 I.T. guys out of work, and they have been for more than a year. The liberals want to change that to track everyone not working. They have not been successful.
Now you and I would probably agree totally on tax relief.
What freedom? Your example still doesn't address using prisoners to do I.T. work. That would be FREE. That would give you ultimate freedom! (Your words not mine). Do you advocate using prisoners to do I.T. work?
Ok change the 3 to a 5 and my point is still valid. Change the 3 to a 6 and my point is still valid. Change the 3 to a 7 and my point is still valid... Get my point... The whole industry collapsed in less than 2 years.
You leave out three very important points. One is the time and cost it takes to get the manufacturing process, shipping and sales down in the U.S. Second is that their is a considerable amount of cost in shipping a car over from Japan. Third and probably most importantly in this comparison is that the car market didn't just pop up over night. It took many years for them to build a decent car. This didn't cause a collaps of an entire industry overnight. The I.T. issue is happening way too quickly for workers to be displaced. Think about it. This took less than two years!
If what you said took place over a 50 year period people wouldn't be arguing this point. However, this is happening over a two year period!
You are dead wrong about System Analyst. The demand for every aspect of I.T. is considerbly down from what it was three years ago in the U.S.A.
You also fail to mention that people in the U.S. pay taxes on their income, little to no tax is accumulated for work done overseas. A solution to this problem would be a "temporary" tax of say 500% on all code developed over seas, and any administration done as well. This tax could then be lowered over time. Say 20-30 years.
You have WAY more than two choices with change... and your view on this screams that you don't actually don't think about issues very much.
Prove that protecting yourself against slave labor in countries that pay no fricking taxes over hear hurt the U.S. economy? Show me an example how putting a SMALL tax on car imports hurts the U.S. economy. The core difference between cars and code is that it doesn't cost ANYTHING to ship code in to the U.S., and cars take time and effort.
What needs to happen is a tax on ALL code done outside the country.
I could somewhat buy your argument if most of the CXO's around here didn't make decisions soly based off getting themselves rich(er). Most of these idiots just do this crap knowing that it will fail, but it will raise the stock up slightly; then they cash in, with their HUGE severence package, and leave the mess for the next sap to take care of.
Ask yourself this. Why don't U.S. companies use prisoners to code. They could be put on a early release program for quality... That would of course lower the end all product cost for the company... In your view that would be good. In my view India, China and Russia are no different than this.
I predict that within a year or two some laid off I.T. worker is going to come back to his former employment and kill a bunch of people.
I believe that SAP's strong point is focused on accounting, and PeopleSofts is CRM. I would be willing to bet that SAP offers just about everything but don't most corps think of them as an accounting package?
I agree, but most.... well EVERY company that I see try and implement one of these solutions dumps a TON more money are resources than anticipated just to get the thing to work.
The exact same thing can be said about SAP.
In my opinion, if you HAVE to have one of these things, take the initial estimate and multiply it by 10 for cost and take the man hours and triple it. Then decide if it is worth the cost or not.
Every major company that would consider PeopleSoft knows about them. If they don't then their I.T. shop should be let go.
Next this has little to do with Oracle getting to buy PeopleSoft. Think about it. If you were a major company and you were going to evaluate what CRM package you wanted, you would look at the company that PeopleSoft just bought, and probably say "Why go with that, it will be discontinued when the PeopleSoft thing goes through." Well now if you are one of those shops and you want to consider PeopleSoft, you will have some serious doubt that it will be a dead product, once Oracle buys them. Now you will probably consider Oracles product.
The way I see it either way Oracle wins. If they drag this thing out for a year or two the damage will be done to PeopleSoft, and Oracles CRM package will probably gain a few marketshares. If they do somehow manage to buy them (won't happen), then they will kill off one of their major competitors. If you ran Oracle would you do any different? Granted this is bad for customers but from Oracles standpoint it is great.
My personal opinion is similar to the other poster, in that I say STAY AWAY FROM CRM PACKAGES!!!!! I can go in to more detail if you want, but they are a bloated mess.
"My stock was at $120 share. It is now 26.91 (actually 2X because of split so 53.82). I am less than half the man I was a few years ago!"
"My company has started to become just like IBM was" For this reference read his book... This is like living in hell to Bill Gates.
"I have the possibility of loosing my monopoly" This may not be hell to him put probably purgatory.
"The tablet PC sucks, the Xbox is considered a failure,.NET is three years old and few have adopted it, and I can't get anyone to buy anything but our core products Office and Windows"
Now for the worst one yet. "I cant steal any more ideas from Apple/Novell/everyone.. and I must actually innovate!".
I think you have to ask what makes Bill Gates happy? If it was the money, then I believe he would have cashed out years ago.
The good news Bill.... Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM errr I mean Microsoft!:-) You have become the old IBM.
I might agree to that for Windows VS proprietary UNIX admins, but I in no way agree to that Windows admins make less than Linux admins.
Go to monster and do a search and compare (what few jobs are out there). You will see that Linux admins don't make that much, and in general they make as much as their Windows counterparts.
Wow, I wasn't aware of that issue. Could you explain it a little more.
I still think that my point stands though... 'Most' applications work well on any version of Windows as long as you have a consistant JVM. To be honest I have found that most of my apps (business apps) need no work at all to port them to Novell/Solaris/AIX/Linux/Windows.
I hope to get a Mac soon to try out development on OSX.
Seeing that you posted Anonymously, I doubt that you would be willing to provide any proof of your data. A heck of a lot of cell phones have been sold... Most families I know have multiple cell phones but only one computer... (Even our family follows this, 3 computers, 2 cell phones, 2 pda's)
Now more to your lack of a point. Java runs GREAT on Windows 95-XP. Hmmm how does.NET run on win95, 98 or Me? So the previous poster who said that Java is THE standard is mostly correct, however here is what I see.
1. All Microsoft shops will use ONLY Microsoft solutions. It comes from Bills mouth to their hands. They will live and die by that motto. Unfortunately there are quite a few shops like this, and these types of morons is what allows Microsoft the time to correct major flaws in products.
2. Everyone else will use the best of breed approach, or what their developers currently know or whatever cost the least amount.
Currently Java does a great job of running on multiple platforms, but in my opinion it isn't the language for complex math, or very simple scripting apps. It is also bad at very simple apps that can only use a small amount of memory.
Microsoft's biggest competitor isn't so much Java with IBM or SUN or BEA or Oracle, but it is Linux+JBOSS+FREE_DB. Microsoft has made a bundle, by offering similar products at a significantly lower price-point. They have been able to do this because they have a monopoly on the desktop, and can allways count on that profit; but they will have a near impossible time of undercutting FREE. Some people base their entire decision on cost! So they are starting to loose that marketshare now. They also have a major issue in that the desktop market is FLAT now. The growth that they came to love is gone. I am by no means supprised that they want to go to a leasing agreement now! They need those consistant revenue streams!
Did Google have a beginning? Will Google some day end? Can Google create anything except web pages? Can Google give an answer to anything that man hasn't yet solved and or documented? Can Google stop all the freaking spam that I get, or at least tell them that my penis size is fine? Can Google turn the economy around so that most of my friend out of work can get a job? Can Google give me a version of Wine that runs well with RedHat 9 and ATI? Ahh I have an answer to that one... NO!!!!
Thanks for the link. Do you have any clue when this will be out? I would love to get one IF it will offer a good cellular service option. i.e. not some big honken modem like the 5xxx series. I currently use an Ipaq 3970 with a Tmobile PCMCIA card to ssh back to our servers and it sucks. The thing looks great, and I would love to have one now.
I don't think that he was saying not to do "ANY" analysis, he was just pointing out that it appears work better if you take some basic requirements, design for them and start development; rather than to try an design for everything and then code. It is my experience that with large software development projects (greater than $1 million), way less than 10% make it. Almost all of these have little to no code to show for it at the end. The projects just never seem to get the requirements right, and then little to no development gets done. Those projects tend to go WAY over budget also.
Obviously there is a balance somewhere, he just seemed to point out that the typical CS approach to things may be flawed. The countless software development projects I have seen fail would agree that something is wrong with the typical approach.
Don't you have to run AIX on that IBM box though... Isn't AIX on an end of life path? It appears that you could buy the IBM and run AIX until they finally get some version of Linux ported to it OR you could just buy a Sun and run Solaris.
I agree with most of your post but I see a solution to it this way.
1. RedHat comes to an agreement to ship Sun/Blackdown JVM. This would be FAR easier than to code a clean room JVM.
2. RedHat gets a separate CD of NON GPL code. This could be all the stuff that you have to click agree to. Specifically the video driver issue. The drivers for ATI and Nvidia kinda blow, and it would be great to get the good ones out of the box. Heck for something like that I would even offer it as an install option for the user.
Good points. But it appears that there can be some balance in there. If Redhat could screen these types of programs and put in the good ones, or at least offer them it would be great. Video drivers (ATI and Nvidia) would be great, and I don't care if they are open source or not. The current driver for ATI kinda sucks.
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Dude it was a joke....
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The sad part is that life in a large NT shop must be something like this for you to even think that this could have been true!
Man how true it is. I can't believe all the people here that bash Microsoft for their apparent lack of security. I mean whats the problem with checking for patches for your server every hour or so? Even if some of the patches are so bad they crash apps on your server and prevent others from starting. I mean, what is the big deal?
Hang on a second... it has been 30 seconds since I last checked Microsoft for another security update...
Ok, I now have another 90MB file I need to apply to the 200 NT boxes I have.... Like I was saying what the heck is the big deal? So what that most vendors release stuff on NT boxes that requires certain service packs, and won't work with others? Yeah this makes server consoldation impossible but who really cares? It isn't that big of a deal, just buy another box. Heck we plan on buying another hundred or so this year.
Hang on a second it has been another 5 min since my last check at Microsoft for another update...
Wow only two new updates! This is a first! Now, as I was saying, these open source "Quality is important" types are just zealots. They just don't understand that it isn't that big of a deal to support Windows.
Sorry, hang on a second... a new Worm just hit or email server...
Now where was I? Oh yeah, the advantages of running Windows... You have one consistant platform. Well we will when we finally get our 200 NT boxes upgraded to Win2k server. Dag gone it, I have to go and talk to our Microsoft rep again... be back in 15 min...
Ok I just found out that Windows 2003 server is out now and EVERYONE is going to it. The nice thing is that Microsoft will let us keep running our Win2k servers until the end of the year! Yeah I would like to see what you open source people say about that! See Microsoft isn't bad at all. They even told us that we could run 2003 Server for a full 3 years! Man that will make life great!
So let all the bitching begin about Microsoft over one SMALL bug! They just don't know what they are talking about...
I agree with our main point. However don't blame Sun too much for the crap that was KVM. Remember they turned that over to "PALM" to head up. I never understood that at all. Why would Palm EVER want to support JAVA? They owned like 90+% of the PDA market. They want people to write to their platform, not a generic one, that would let people move off of Palm.
I currently have an Ipaq, and it runs java via some JVM supplied by compaq. It looked cool and I thouht it would be great because this thing runs at 400mhz! Well, it doesn't support SWING... man that kinda sucks for what I would want to do with it.
Great post. I have a few Windows NT 4.x and some 2k boxes. How do I admin the NT 4.x box with SSH?
The overall point that is trying to be made is that Linux/Unix has for 20 some years (less with Linux) been designed as a command line system. Windows has not. To some degree Windows has not taken security seriously either. So when you say admin a Windows box with any of their remote tools, it scares most admins, because of Microsoft's track record with security. I personally wouln't want to activate any of those services on a Win2k/2003 box that is live on the web. Come to think of it I would be afraid of putting any windows box live on the web. Look at the last security hole found in 2k/2003. It was found just last week! Not much of a hole though... it just let someone take control of your machine!
Now you could firewall off your stuff and have some VPN access in to your place, then use those services. Just more work, slower response time and more complicated. Also, the points of Windows being easier to admin now go away, because you would no longer be using a GUI.
Your first question is can .Net scale? Answer is yes. The second question is can .Net scale on your budget? That is much harder question to answer. My initial reaction is no, given your concernes and the amount of effort you have already put in to it.
I am by no means a fan of Microsoft. To be honest I hope that your projects dies, and this can be added to the long list of people that I know who bet the farm on Microsoft just to either have far more NT servers than employees, or they go out of business... but I will give my 2 cents.
You seem to have defined some of the basic bottlenecks of performance. What you appear to leave out is what happens at certain loads. Does the system die? Probably not, but what happens to the response time? What are the acceptable requirements for the system? You may find 25 seconds for a page to load unacceptable, but the users may not. Either way it will let you know what goal you need to hit. Can you configure your DB to use less or more RAM?
Next, is it for sure processor load that is the issue? My guess is that you would be far better off with an x86 chip with more cache and stronger memory bandwidth than a standard P4. Granted this involves another hardware purchase, but if that becomes an option at all look at an Operton or Xeon chip in a 2 way system. You can get one of those systems well under 4 grand. The Opteron flat out rocks and the new Xeon 3GHZ with 1MB cache should be hitting the streets soon.
Not knowing much about the dark sides languages (Java is my thing), are you using one database connection throughout your application? Not returning it back to a connection pool, but storing it in the session object? This can have a significant impact on performance.
Seeing that you said you talked to a SQL Server expert (I have never met one), I will assume that he looked through the code and optimized all the SQL. Everyone seems to be taking cheap shots an d saying you should have used product X, well here is my cheap shot... Next time use Oracle! I repeat next time use Oracle! Ok, it bears repeating one more time.... next time use Oracle. Granted it is expensive, but you are learning a lesson that a ton of shops here in Indy have had to learn the hard way. Well what the heck next time use Java + JBOSS or Resin + Oracle + Linux. In our environment it flat out rocks.
What else is running on the box? You can buy a sub $500 machine to move all the DNS AD stuff to it. Not sure how much that impacts performance though... it may not be worth it. But my point is to turn off every unused service. Also, I will assume that you have applied every service pack, and called Microsoft. Since you are using ALL their products, you would think that they would help you. God I would love to be in on that call!!! All I ever hear them say is "You need to get off of product x" and use our product.
Generally what I find to be the issue with performance is SQL and DB access. The code takes around nothing to execute processor wise. Now what kind of DB are you talking about? How many tables and how many rows in each table. What kind of transactions do you do (mostly inserts or querys). Are the indexes setup correctly on the tables? Could you flatten some relationships down?
Ok the unenployment figures are known joke. Please NOTE that they only track people who are CURRENTLY unenployed! I know at least 10 I.T. guys out of work, and they have been for more than a year. The liberals want to change that to track everyone not working. They have not been successful.
Now you and I would probably agree totally on tax relief.
What freedom? Your example still doesn't address using prisoners to do I.T. work. That would be FREE. That would give you ultimate freedom! (Your words not mine). Do you advocate using prisoners to do I.T. work?
Ok change the 3 to a 5 and my point is still valid. Change the 3 to a 6 and my point is still valid. Change the 3 to a 7 and my point is still valid... Get my point... The whole industry collapsed in less than 2 years.
You leave out three very important points. One is the time and cost it takes to get the manufacturing process, shipping and sales down in the U.S.
Second is that their is a considerable amount of cost in shipping a car over from Japan.
Third and probably most importantly in this comparison is that the car market didn't just pop up over night. It took many years for them to build a decent car. This didn't cause a collaps of an entire industry overnight. The I.T. issue is happening way too quickly for workers to be displaced. Think about it. This took less than two years!
If what you said took place over a 50 year period people wouldn't be arguing this point. However, this is happening over a two year period!
You are dead wrong about System Analyst. The demand for every aspect of I.T. is considerbly down from what it was three years ago in the U.S.A.
You also fail to mention that people in the U.S. pay taxes on their income, little to no tax is accumulated for work done overseas. A solution to this problem would be a "temporary" tax of say 500% on all code developed over seas, and any administration done as well. This tax could then be lowered over time. Say 20-30 years.
You have WAY more than two choices with change... and your view on this screams that you don't actually don't think about issues very much.
Prove that protecting yourself against slave labor in countries that pay no fricking taxes over hear hurt the U.S. economy? Show me an example how putting a SMALL tax on car imports hurts the U.S. economy. The core difference between cars and code is that it doesn't cost ANYTHING to ship code in to the U.S., and cars take time and effort.
What needs to happen is a tax on ALL code done outside the country.
I could somewhat buy your argument if most of the CXO's around here didn't make decisions soly based off getting themselves rich(er). Most of these idiots just do this crap knowing that it will fail, but it will raise the stock up slightly; then they cash in, with their HUGE severence package, and leave the mess for the next sap to take care of.
Ask yourself this. Why don't U.S. companies use prisoners to code. They could be put on a early release program for quality... That would of course lower the end all product cost for the company... In your view that would be good. In my view India, China and Russia are no different than this.
I predict that within a year or two some laid off I.T. worker is going to come back to his former employment and kill a bunch of people.
I believe that SAP's strong point is focused on accounting, and PeopleSofts is CRM. I would be willing to bet that SAP offers just about everything but don't most corps think of them as an accounting package?
I agree, but most.... well EVERY company that I see try and implement one of these solutions dumps a TON more money are resources than anticipated just to get the thing to work.
The exact same thing can be said about SAP.
In my opinion, if you HAVE to have one of these things, take the initial estimate and multiply it by 10 for cost and take the man hours and triple it. Then decide if it is worth the cost or not.
Here is the scoop.
Every major company that would consider PeopleSoft knows about them. If they don't then their I.T. shop should be let go.
Next this has little to do with Oracle getting to buy PeopleSoft. Think about it. If you were a major company and you were going to evaluate what CRM package you wanted, you would look at the company that PeopleSoft just bought, and probably say "Why go with that, it will be discontinued when the PeopleSoft thing goes through." Well now if you are one of those shops and you want to consider PeopleSoft, you will have some serious doubt that it will be a dead product, once Oracle buys them. Now you will probably consider Oracles product.
The way I see it either way Oracle wins. If they drag this thing out for a year or two the damage will be done to PeopleSoft, and Oracles CRM package will probably gain a few marketshares. If they do somehow manage to buy them (won't happen), then they will kill off one of their major competitors. If you ran Oracle would you do any different? Granted this is bad for customers but from Oracles standpoint it is great.
My personal opinion is similar to the other poster, in that I say STAY AWAY FROM CRM PACKAGES!!!!! I can go in to more detail if you want, but they are a bloated mess.
I can also see this...
.NET is three years old and few have adopted it, and I can't get anyone to buy anything but our core products Office and Windows"
:-) You have become the old IBM.
"My stock was at $120 share. It is now 26.91 (actually 2X because of split so 53.82). I am less than half the man I was a few years ago!"
"My company has started to become just like IBM was" For this reference read his book... This is like living in hell to Bill Gates.
"I have the possibility of loosing my monopoly" This may not be hell to him put probably purgatory.
"The tablet PC sucks, the Xbox is considered a failure,
Now for the worst one yet.
"I cant steal any more ideas from Apple/Novell/everyone.. and I must actually innovate!".
I think you have to ask what makes Bill Gates happy? If it was the money, then I believe he would have cashed out years ago.
The good news Bill....
Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM errr I mean Microsoft!
I might agree to that for Windows VS proprietary UNIX admins, but I in no way agree to that Windows admins make less than Linux admins.
Go to monster and do a search and compare (what few jobs are out there). You will see that Linux admins don't make that much, and in general they make as much as their Windows counterparts.
Wow, I wasn't aware of that issue. Could you explain it a little more.
I still think that my point stands though... 'Most' applications work well on any version of Windows as long as you have a consistant JVM. To be honest I have found that most of my apps (business apps) need no work at all to port them to Novell/Solaris/AIX/Linux/Windows.
I hope to get a Mac soon to try out development on OSX.
Seeing that you posted Anonymously, I doubt that you would be willing to provide any proof of your data. A heck of a lot of cell phones have been sold... Most families I know have multiple cell phones but only one computer... (Even our family follows this, 3 computers, 2 cell phones, 2 pda's)
.NET run on win95, 98 or Me? So the previous poster who said that Java is THE standard is mostly correct, however here is what I see.
Now more to your lack of a point. Java runs GREAT on Windows 95-XP. Hmmm how does
1. All Microsoft shops will use ONLY Microsoft solutions. It comes from Bills mouth to their hands. They will live and die by that motto. Unfortunately there are quite a few shops like this, and these types of morons is what allows Microsoft the time to correct major flaws in products.
2. Everyone else will use the best of breed approach, or what their developers currently know or whatever cost the least amount.
Currently Java does a great job of running on multiple platforms, but in my opinion it isn't the language for complex math, or very simple scripting apps. It is also bad at very simple apps that can only use a small amount of memory.
Microsoft's biggest competitor isn't so much Java with IBM or SUN or BEA or Oracle, but it is Linux+JBOSS+FREE_DB. Microsoft has made a bundle, by offering similar products at a significantly lower price-point. They have been able to do this because they have a monopoly on the desktop, and can allways count on that profit; but they will have a near impossible time of undercutting FREE. Some people base their entire decision on cost! So they are starting to loose that marketshare now. They also have a major issue in that the desktop market is FLAT now. The growth that they came to love is gone.
I am by no means supprised that they want to go to a leasing agreement now! They need those consistant revenue streams!
Did Google have a beginning?
Will Google some day end?
Can Google create anything except web pages?
Can Google give an answer to anything that man hasn't yet solved and or documented?
Can Google stop all the freaking spam that I get, or at least tell them that my penis size is fine?
Can Google turn the economy around so that most of my friend out of work can get a job?
Can Google give me a version of Wine that runs well with RedHat 9 and ATI? Ahh I have an answer to that one... NO!!!!
Thanks for the link. Do you have any clue when this will be out? I would love to get one IF it will offer a good cellular service option. i.e. not some big honken modem like the 5xxx series. I currently use an Ipaq 3970 with a Tmobile PCMCIA card to ssh back to our servers and it sucks. The thing looks great, and I would love to have one now.
I don't think that he was saying not to do "ANY" analysis, he was just pointing out that it appears work better if you take some basic requirements, design for them and start development; rather than to try an design for everything and then code. It is my experience that with large software development projects (greater than $1 million), way less than 10% make it. Almost all of these have little to no code to show for it at the end. The projects just never seem to get the requirements right, and then little to no development gets done. Those projects tend to go WAY over budget also.
Obviously there is a balance somewhere, he just seemed to point out that the typical CS approach to things may be flawed. The countless software development projects I have seen fail would agree that something is wrong with the typical approach.
Don't you have to run AIX on that IBM box though... Isn't AIX on an end of life path? It appears that you could buy the IBM and run AIX until they finally get some version of Linux ported to it OR you could just buy a Sun and run Solaris.
I agree with most of your post but I see a solution to it this way.
1. RedHat comes to an agreement to ship Sun/Blackdown JVM. This would be FAR easier than to code a clean room JVM.
2. RedHat gets a separate CD of NON GPL code. This could be all the stuff that you have to click agree to. Specifically the video driver issue. The drivers for ATI and Nvidia kinda blow, and it would be great to get the good ones out of the box. Heck for something like that I would even offer it as an install option for the user.
Good points. But it appears that there can be some balance in there. If Redhat could screen these types of programs and put in the good ones, or at least offer them it would be great. Video drivers (ATI and Nvidia) would be great, and I don't care if they are open source or not. The current driver for ATI kinda sucks.
The issue is that RedHat has made a decision to only ship open source software in their distro. So you won't get the good video drivers or a good JVM.
This could easily be solved if they just shipped Sun's JVM with it, and had the installer agree to the terms.
Personally I would love a separate RedHat CD or DVD that had "NON GPL" software. I then could load stuff like a good JVM, and good video drivers.