If this is really true, MIT and its CS professors should reexamine the program. If CS students cant write JSP and ASP.Net etc. at the top ranked school then "Lord have Mercy".. Forget about learning LISP and all this crap and teach the students how to code.
I think the problem is no matter how many companies that have million dollars revenues that someone starts, they are not doing their job if they are not fulfilling the students needs.
It is f'ing piteful that MIT students cant learn Java. Especially if they know C or Lisp. Get with the program!
My Background: I have taught college courses in C++ at a large university and have been around the CS dept for awhile. Now I work in a IT shop where its 40% women out of 40 (or so) people.
CS/IT Women:
They usually think they know more than they do
Are not as technical and "geeky". They give
up too easy and get frustrated too fast.
Are either very good or very bad. Most of the women in my IT job are posuers and really cant code so they learn easy langs like VB and ASP and try to think they are programmers.
They are really good students, they come to class, are organized and pay attention and do their work. They are not lazy. But, I do not think they are as creative, they tend to write clean code that is well structured, but mostly is not optimized. Probably because the IT women dont have the math background.
I have seen management treat women programmers better than male counterparts because women value different things.. like cubicle neatness, personality, popularity so where I work they bring down the level of technical environment.
Recently there has been a push towards taking women with data processing skills and taching them VB and calling them a programmer. I resent that based on how hard I have worked for that title.
They are generally less lazy than males, but they cannot do programming marathons and such becuase they are moms and have to put out for their husbands nightly.
Women profs can be a nightmare as well, they can be horrible as they ake the classes dumb-downed.
The IT women programmers really do not work on side projects or enjoy hardware etc. They do mostly COBOL here. They havent learned any new stuff since I been here and they dont care either.
I just put into production a nice Java 2 Swing app that is being used to handle all the report printing for our mid sized company.
It works perfectly, the only glitch I need to work on is getting the screen to refresh better and make/find a file dialog box that allows for more than one file choice at a time.
We have no Java apps in our system. Because of my success, now I can write more java in our VB environment and we have the JRE on the production server.. Very cool app too, it concuurently processes business reports and
runs large reports batch ~jobs and send them to the Xerox printers for high speed printing. Later!!
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If this is really true, MIT and its CS professors should reexamine the program. If CS students cant write JSP and ASP.Net etc. at the top ranked school then "Lord have Mercy".. Forget about learning LISP and all this crap and teach the students how to code.
I think the problem is no matter how many companies that have million dollars revenues that someone starts, they are not doing their job if they are not fulfilling the students needs.
It is f'ing piteful that MIT students cant learn Java. Especially if they know C or Lisp. Get with the program!
You said it brother!! F'n cunts
My Background: I have taught college courses in C++ at a large university and have been around the CS dept for awhile. Now I work in a IT shop where its 40% women out of 40 (or so) people.
CS/IT Women:
They usually think they know more than they do
Are not as technical and "geeky". They give
up too easy and get frustrated too fast.
Are either very good or very bad. Most of the women in my IT job are posuers and really cant code so they learn easy langs like VB and ASP and try to think they are programmers.
They are really good students, they come to class, are organized and pay attention and do their work. They are not lazy. But, I do not think they are as creative, they tend to write clean code that is well structured, but mostly is not optimized. Probably because the IT women dont have the math background.
I have seen management treat women programmers better than male counterparts because women value different things.. like cubicle neatness, personality, popularity so where I work they bring down the level of technical environment.
Recently there has been a push towards taking women with data processing skills and taching them VB and calling them a programmer. I resent that based on how hard I have worked for that title.
They are generally less lazy than males, but they cannot do programming marathons and such becuase they are moms and have to put out for their husbands nightly.
Women profs can be a nightmare as well, they can be horrible as they ake the classes dumb-downed.
The IT women programmers really do not work on side projects or enjoy hardware etc. They do mostly COBOL here. They havent learned any new stuff since I been here and they dont care either.
I just put into production a nice Java 2 Swing app that is being used to handle all the report printing for our mid sized company. It works perfectly, the only glitch I need to work on is getting the screen to refresh better and make /find a file dialog box that allows for more than one file choice at a time.
We have no Java apps in our system. Because of my success, now I can write more java in our VB environment and we have the JRE on the production server.. Very cool app too, it concuurently processes business reports and
runs large reports batch ~jobs and send them to the Xerox printers for high speed printing. Later!!