SO, you're saying that some clever vandals with an evil sense of humor could buy said tracer chemical, and go through every car at the mall with an eyedropper?
Damn, shame I don't live in finland! I could have loads of fun...
Thought there already was an E, for the amiga. A scripting language or something?
Off-topic: C.5 sounds cool. When I design a C knockoff language with ill-considered features, I think I will call it this, with your permission. There aren't nearly enough C-based programming languages that use C in the name, if you ask me. C/C++/ObjC/C# and the best of all, C.5!
Yes, a great idea! Let all of us strangers start mailing weird electronic items to our politicians, that no one in that office can readily identify! They'll love it, and we'll be heroes...
Childish and unrealistic? I hadn't noticed that it was such a horrible place to live.
I'm not so concerned that there is no feasible alternative, I'm concerned that because this is so, people like bitgeek will use it as a rallying cry for more, and more extreme, captitalism. When we really need to start thinking up said alternative...
Again, I don't like "lesser evil" choices. When presented with one, such as the presidential elections, I simply ignore it. I refuse to be party to something so pathologically lopsided and absurd.
So you're saying that because capitalism has managed to raise 1/6's of the world's population out of poverty, that it can raise all of it out of poverty? Strange notion, that. Often in dynamic situations like this, past performance is a poor indicator of future ability. Hell, what if it gets close, like 7/8's, or even 99%? Do the rest, since they are a minority, have to live in the stone age, so that your Church of Greed beneficiaries can live the good life?
Oh, and don't forget capitalism as it has been practiced to date, is downright fanatical about wasting all our non-renewable resources.
Sorry, I have to give capitalism an F, and I'm tempted to make that an F-. Any good it has done, has surely been an accident, and one that it always strives to avoid. Again, the world that I live in provides me with only 2 really shitty choices, because idiots like you have more influence than you deserve.
BTW, both capitalism and socialism suck watery turds through a leaky straw. We need some new system, and I don't know what it is. But neither are adequate, and the current favorite simply isn't worthy of support (even if the alternative is worse).
Doesn't this limit how long you can keep a recording? I mean, in a few months the video decrypt keys have been rotated, and no longer exist in the stream for the old programming. Or am I missing something?
For some of us, it's still 1987. I have an SH204 for my 1024STfm. But I'm trying to get scsi working on the atari interface, so I can use some real storage...
As a hobbyist (amateur EE is too generous), I will say that the hardware isn't particularly daunting. Someone only modestly more talented than I, might come up with the schematics, and layout. Hell, you might even spring for the parts, of which the PCB, surface mount chips would be pricey. And anyone fairly competent at doing rework can hand solder them, just have to take it slow.
But this is as far as it goes. Because I don't know shit about writing device drivers. Mind you, I think linux would be easier to work with than windows, but even there... damn. I've wanted to make ISA cards for a long time, and I'm probably even capable of it. I might even have a shot at a simple PCI card. But its only a hunk of fiberglass with little bits of silicon welded to it, if you can't write the software to go with it.
And last I heard, EE students do study device drivers, but not to any great degree.
Yes, troll, you would be hardpressed to have found a computer without MSDOS on it. That's because they had a monopoly handed to them, and they weren't afraid to use it. Heavy-handed and often illegal tactics, licensing extortion, and every other scheme Satan himself would be proud of, were used to great effect to retard the advance of the personal computer and technology innovation. Without a Microsoft, we might have the OS now, that we won't have for another 20 years. Thanks Microsoft, for slowing down everything.
Our only consolation might be that hardware is more advanced than it would have been otherwise, it had to compensate for software's weakness.
One cute thing to do is to conquer all the galaxy except one enemy world
My favorite goal, was to cripple an incapacitate the other races, without genociding them. Each race was allowed to have its homeworld, and only that homeworld. I would take all the others, beating them back to their origins... then my lvl 100 warships would patrol orbit. Never again, would I allow them to leave the surface... or for that matter, to build industry! Had to be careful, never to let them go much below 10million population, or you could accidentally extinct them on the next volley. What a pity that would be, the curator of the intergalactic zoo would have had my head! Figuratively speaking, of course. As emperor, I had him executed for sneezing in my presence.
Those were the days. It was only later that I discovered that the Urquan had been doing the same for millenia. But that's another game, another story.
PS I used to do this on Herzog Zwei too... ring his home base with SAMs, and he could never leave to place units, but would never lose either. Just turn the TV off for a week, come back and end the game to see that you died 4 times, but he died 376,122 times. Caimlas, if you are reading this, you won't believe that either, I suppose. Yes, I did beat Zelda without ever getting the sword, asswad.
1) If it isn't nailed down, steal it. 2) If it is nailed down, pry up the nails and steal it. 3) If someone points out you are stealing, sue them. 4) After the lawsuits are over, steal from the defendant(s). 5) Buy politicians. 6) Demand politicians pass laws making corporate theft legal. 7) Demand politicians pass laws redefining "exercising Constitutional rights" as stealing. 8) Never tell lies, except when you feel like it or it is convenient for your goals. 9) Donate to charities only as a marketing tactic. 10) If 2 sq inches of contiguous flat surface are available, plaster an advertisement on it. 11) If they are unavailable, pay someone else to plaster the advertisement on it. 12) If it's smaller than 2 sq inches, plaster an advertisement on it. 13) Profit! 14) Appoint minions to Ethics Task Force. 15) Promise unending pain and humiliation to any appointees that draft any policies that remotely resemble ethics. 16) Disregard ethics policies. 17) Go steal something. 18) Profit! 19) Search for something beautiful, a landscape, art, or anything that gives people solace and feelings of peace. Plaster an advertisement on it. 20) If it is impossible to plaster an advertisement on the beatiful thing, destroy it an erect an advertisement in its place. Preferably with a bulldozer. 21) Profit! 22) Profit! 23) Profit! 24) When projected profits are equal, always choose the method that inflicts the most inconvenience and privacy violations on your customers. 25) If former customers refuse to buy your merchandise, have them arrested. 26) Buy judges. 27) Profit! 28) Demand that judges convict non-buying customers. 29) Profit!
Ok, I've ran out of ideas. still, this is a pretty decent outline, but please feel free to add more rules, as you see fit.
Then you'll really like the part where the rocket launches up, visually less than FTL, and the sun explodes in about 15 seconds... instead of the 6-12 minutes one might expect, even *at* lightspeed.
Yeh, it isn't 640x480. It's less than that, once you take into account overscan and such.. 5** x 3*** or so, I think. His point was valid, and it was clear to people who cared to listen.
Maybe he deserved to be shot down, but not by an even bigger idiot. As a matter of fact, the reply was so much more extremely stupid, I felt moved to invent a "new word"... fucktard. English is a living language, you cretin, that means that there is no such thing as a non-word, especially when meaning is implied and a context exists that allows other people (stretching the definition I know, including you in "people") to understand that meaning. You sir, are what is meant when people use the word "fucktard". I only wish I could honestly claim I invented that beautiful, lovely word... how else would I tell my friends about quasi-persons like yourself?
How is this so different from my own suggestion? You make an encrypted connection to another server over national boundaries.
In my scheme, there is more than 1 international destination (hopefully all of them), the desination has more than 3 citizens, and the destination isn't already associated with a criminal element (rightly or wrongly).
Gee, like sealand. Besides, if everyone you communicate with was across international borders, you wouldn't have to worry about anything else, hence the sealand idea.
In a routed network, your direct neighbors might be international, and the other hosts could be anywhere. You wouldn't, couldn't know who they are. It doesn't limit how many people you communicate with, just your knowledge of who the rest are.
Sealand, is, and always was a bad idea. Ever heard of single point of failure? Keeping a low profile? Staying away from sensationalist idiots?
The flaws in this are too many to name. Sending packets to sealand will be illegal (if they don't just cut the fibers, that is). It will be impossible to hide the fact that you are doing so, and it will have only one possible meaning.
IPv6 isn't mature. Many apps don't compile well with it, if at all. It's an incredible pain to implement, have you experimented with it? I have.
No, what we need to do, is be able to hide the existence of this free network. Not perfectly, mind you. We need a routed network, where you only know the indentities of your immediate neighbors, of which you have few. And they sit across international borders, immune to any trouble you might get them into. And, in a worst case scenario, where you can claim it was only a small VPN, for private purposes.
And before anyone mentions freenet, keep in mind I like the internet because I get IP connectivity... p2p filesharing isn't enough.
Ok, I'll summarize. We build a new global (ok, not quite that scale, but still could be big) network. We do things right, and we protect its users. We can get rid of some of the cruft, the things that should be gone from the net, but still hand around. We keep the things that work. How?
#1 We need wires, cables, fibers. Since these cost money, and even if they didn't, they're easy to trace, I propose another option. We use VPN tunnels. The flavor isn't so important, ipsec, ptpp, OpenVPN... even all of them together.
#2 Users don't want to be second class citizens. That means a static IP. That means no restrictions on what services they can offer, and none on the services they might want to use... they want to be true peers. The 10.x.x.x offers 16 million IPs, less some overhead. More than enough room for growth, especially if we start *real* planning for IPv6 migration(instead of paying lip service).
#3 Users want privacy, they want protection. This one was tough... and I can't honestly say I've solved it. But I've come damn close, and I continue to make progress. Since it is impossible to communicate with someone without knowing their identity, and thusly holding them vulnerable. In a routed enviroment though, this changes just *slightly*.
If you communicate with only 3 hosts directly, can you know the identity of other hosts? Well, you could force one of those 3 administrators (or the feds could, anyway) to reveal identities.
Unless, those 3 administrators were in foreign countries. And if they in turn, only knew the identities of 2 other individuals besides yourself? What if we trained all new "recruits" to never reveal the identity of their 3 partners, even to close buddies/family/lovers?
Encrypted packet tunnels, with endpoints outside of any single goverment's jurisdiction. Practical, if not perfect, anonymity.
Oh, and free domain names. A network where projects like bnetd wouldn't have any troubles. A way to weed out the AOLers, and all the riffraff. Email accounts where you wouldn't get any spam.
Guys, help me figure this out... it's worth doing.
Actually, why not abandon the internet? I am working on a replacement after all... I would like to have been able to keep the internet for myself and those like me, but it was stolen from all of us years ago. I'm sorry, but I don't want to be living on an internet "reservation" (apologies to native americans) which just happens to be only those parts no corporations wanted.
Oh, and since I never made this obvious... I not only don't mind the idea of alternate Meta's, I think it would be good to have several distinct/seperate Meta's in existence. So if you think you have what it takes, build your own!
I agree with your sentiment, but your conclusions are absurd. If anything, the domain holder is the one that is SOL. Time and again, this has been proven, even in courts of law.
You guys are lucky... the 23 is a Qbus system(?) Unibus is Qbus's flaky cousin, near as I can tell. Besides, I'm limited to 32kwords of core (though, it is interesting to see a 32kb memory circuit board that is nearly 3 times the size of an ATX motherboard).
If anyone is interested, I might be willing to set up accounts on mine, if everyone behaved themselves. That is, if I can get it up and running...
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SO, you're saying that some clever vandals with an evil sense of humor could buy said tracer chemical, and go through every car at the mall with an eyedropper?
Damn, shame I don't live in finland! I could have loads of fun...
Thought there already was an E, for the amiga. A scripting language or something?
Off-topic: C.5 sounds cool. When I design a C knockoff language with ill-considered features, I think I will call it this, with your permission. There aren't nearly enough C-based programming languages that use C in the name, if you ask me. C/C++/ObjC/C# and the best of all, C.5!
Yes, a great idea! Let all of us strangers start mailing weird electronic items to our politicians, that no one in that office can readily identify! They'll love it, and we'll be heroes...
If ISPs weren't managed by halfassed windows monkeys, proper multicast would have taken care of many of these issues.
Childish and unrealistic? I hadn't noticed that it was such a horrible place to live.
I'm not so concerned that there is no feasible alternative, I'm concerned that because this is so, people like bitgeek will use it as a rallying cry for more, and more extreme, captitalism. When we really need to start thinking up said alternative...
Again, I don't like "lesser evil" choices. When presented with one, such as the presidential elections, I simply ignore it. I refuse to be party to something so pathologically lopsided and absurd.
So you're saying that because capitalism has managed to raise 1/6's of the world's population out of poverty, that it can raise all of it out of poverty? Strange notion, that. Often in dynamic situations like this, past performance is a poor indicator of future ability. Hell, what if it gets close, like 7/8's, or even 99%? Do the rest, since they are a minority, have to live in the stone age, so that your Church of Greed beneficiaries can live the good life?
Oh, and don't forget capitalism as it has been practiced to date, is downright fanatical about wasting all our non-renewable resources.
Sorry, I have to give capitalism an F, and I'm tempted to make that an F-. Any good it has done, has surely been an accident, and one that it always strives to avoid. Again, the world that I live in provides me with only 2 really shitty choices, because idiots like you have more influence than you deserve.
BTW, both capitalism and socialism suck watery turds through a leaky straw. We need some new system, and I don't know what it is. But neither are adequate, and the current favorite simply isn't worthy of support (even if the alternative is worse).
Doesn't this limit how long you can keep a recording? I mean, in a few months the video decrypt keys have been rotated, and no longer exist in the stream for the old programming. Or am I missing something?
For some of us, it's still 1987. I have an SH204 for my 1024STfm. But I'm trying to get scsi working on the atari interface, so I can use some real storage...
As a hobbyist (amateur EE is too generous), I will say that the hardware isn't particularly daunting. Someone only modestly more talented than I, might come up with the schematics, and layout. Hell, you might even spring for the parts, of which the PCB, surface mount chips would be pricey. And anyone fairly competent at doing rework can hand solder them, just have to take it slow.
But this is as far as it goes. Because I don't know shit about writing device drivers. Mind you, I think linux would be easier to work with than windows, but even there... damn. I've wanted to make ISA cards for a long time, and I'm probably even capable of it. I might even have a shot at a simple PCI card. But its only a hunk of fiberglass with little bits of silicon welded to it, if you can't write the software to go with it.
And last I heard, EE students do study device drivers, but not to any great degree.
But from an aesthetic standpoint, they needed to be confined to their homeworld.
The game should have had technology that allowed you to de-terraform the planets to small, ultrapoor. Wish it were moddable...
Yes, troll, you would be hardpressed to have found a computer without MSDOS on it. That's because they had a monopoly handed to them, and they weren't afraid to use it. Heavy-handed and often illegal tactics, licensing extortion, and every other scheme Satan himself would be proud of, were used to great effect to retard the advance of the personal computer and technology innovation. Without a Microsoft, we might have the OS now, that we won't have for another 20 years. Thanks Microsoft, for slowing down everything.
Our only consolation might be that hardware is more advanced than it would have been otherwise, it had to compensate for software's weakness.
One cute thing to do is to conquer all the galaxy except one enemy world
My favorite goal, was to cripple an incapacitate the other races, without genociding them. Each race was allowed to have its homeworld, and only that homeworld. I would take all the others, beating them back to their origins... then my lvl 100 warships would patrol orbit. Never again, would I allow them to leave the surface... or for that matter, to build industry! Had to be careful, never to let them go much below 10million population, or you could accidentally extinct them on the next volley. What a pity that would be, the curator of the intergalactic zoo would have had my head! Figuratively speaking, of course. As emperor, I had him executed for sneezing in my presence.
Those were the days. It was only later that I discovered that the Urquan had been doing the same for millenia. But that's another game, another story.
PS I used to do this on Herzog Zwei too... ring his home base with SAMs, and he could never leave to place units, but would never lose either. Just turn the TV off for a week, come back and end the game to see that you died 4 times, but he died 376,122 times. Caimlas, if you are reading this, you won't believe that either, I suppose. Yes, I did beat Zelda without ever getting the sword, asswad.
1) If it isn't nailed down, steal it.
2) If it is nailed down, pry up the nails and steal it.
3) If someone points out you are stealing, sue them.
4) After the lawsuits are over, steal from the defendant(s).
5) Buy politicians.
6) Demand politicians pass laws making corporate theft legal.
7) Demand politicians pass laws redefining "exercising Constitutional rights" as stealing.
8) Never tell lies, except when you feel like it or it is convenient for your goals.
9) Donate to charities only as a marketing tactic.
10) If 2 sq inches of contiguous flat surface are available, plaster an advertisement on it.
11) If they are unavailable, pay someone else to plaster the advertisement on it.
12) If it's smaller than 2 sq inches, plaster an advertisement on it.
13) Profit!
14) Appoint minions to Ethics Task Force.
15) Promise unending pain and humiliation to any appointees that draft any policies that remotely resemble ethics.
16) Disregard ethics policies.
17) Go steal something.
18) Profit!
19) Search for something beautiful, a landscape, art, or anything that gives people solace and feelings of peace. Plaster an advertisement on it.
20) If it is impossible to plaster an advertisement on the beatiful thing, destroy it an erect an advertisement in its place. Preferably with a bulldozer.
21) Profit!
22) Profit!
23) Profit!
24) When projected profits are equal, always choose the method that inflicts the most inconvenience and privacy violations on your customers.
25) If former customers refuse to buy your merchandise, have them arrested.
26) Buy judges.
27) Profit!
28) Demand that judges convict non-buying customers.
29) Profit!
Ok, I've ran out of ideas. still, this is a pretty decent outline, but please feel free to add more rules, as you see fit.
Then you'll really like the part where the rocket launches up, visually less than FTL, and the sun explodes in about 15 seconds... instead of the 6-12 minutes one might expect, even *at* lightspeed.
Haha. Then take a look at the last line.. ever hear of sarcasm?
Thanks though, I needed a fresh example to show people what it meant.
Yeh, it isn't 640x480. It's less than that, once you take into account overscan and such.. 5** x 3*** or so, I think. His point was valid, and it was clear to people who cared to listen.
Maybe he deserved to be shot down, but not by an even bigger idiot. As a matter of fact, the reply was so much more extremely stupid, I felt moved to invent a "new word"... fucktard. English is a living language, you cretin, that means that there is no such thing as a non-word, especially when meaning is implied and a context exists that allows other people (stretching the definition I know, including you in "people") to understand that meaning. You sir, are what is meant when people use the word "fucktard". I only wish I could honestly claim I invented that beautiful, lovely word... how else would I tell my friends about quasi-persons like yourself?
60 fields per second, not frames.
It's equivalent to 30 frames per second, which is close enough to the parent poster's 24fps to not bitch about. Fucktard.
How is this so different from my own suggestion? You make an encrypted connection to another server over national boundaries.
In my scheme, there is more than 1 international destination (hopefully all of them), the desination has more than 3 citizens, and the destination isn't already associated with a criminal element (rightly or wrongly).
Gee, like sealand. Besides, if everyone you communicate with was across international borders, you wouldn't have to worry about anything else, hence the sealand idea.
In a routed network, your direct neighbors might be international, and the other hosts could be anywhere. You wouldn't, couldn't know who they are. It doesn't limit how many people you communicate with, just your knowledge of who the rest are.
Sealand, is, and always was a bad idea. Ever heard of single point of failure? Keeping a low profile? Staying away from sensationalist idiots?
Technology to the rescue.
How hard would it be to make the collar bigger?
You can also get the version that has cables at the perimeter of your yard... the kid will never wander out into traffic again.
The flaws in this are too many to name. Sending packets to sealand will be illegal (if they don't just cut the fibers, that is). It will be impossible to hide the fact that you are doing so, and it will have only one possible meaning.
IPv6 isn't mature. Many apps don't compile well with it, if at all. It's an incredible pain to implement, have you experimented with it? I have.
No, what we need to do, is be able to hide the existence of this free network. Not perfectly, mind you. We need a routed network, where you only know the indentities of your immediate neighbors, of which you have few. And they sit across international borders, immune to any trouble you might get them into. And, in a worst case scenario, where you can claim it was only a small VPN, for private purposes.
And before anyone mentions freenet, keep in mind I like the internet because I get IP connectivity... p2p filesharing isn't enough.
Ok, I'll summarize. We build a new global (ok, not quite that scale, but still could be big) network. We do things right, and we protect its users. We can get rid of some of the cruft, the things that should be gone from the net, but still hand around. We keep the things that work. How?
#1 We need wires, cables, fibers. Since these cost money, and even if they didn't, they're easy to trace, I propose another option. We use VPN tunnels. The flavor isn't so important, ipsec, ptpp, OpenVPN... even all of them together.
#2 Users don't want to be second class citizens. That means a static IP. That means no restrictions on what services they can offer, and none on the services they might want to use... they want to be true peers. The 10.x.x.x offers 16 million IPs, less some overhead. More than enough room for growth, especially if we start *real* planning for IPv6 migration(instead of paying lip service).
#3 Users want privacy, they want protection. This one was tough... and I can't honestly say I've solved it. But I've come damn close, and I continue to make progress. Since it is impossible to communicate with someone without knowing their identity, and thusly holding them vulnerable. In a routed enviroment though, this changes just *slightly*.
If you communicate with only 3 hosts directly, can you know the identity of other hosts? Well, you could force one of those 3 administrators (or the feds could, anyway) to reveal identities.
Unless, those 3 administrators were in foreign countries. And if they in turn, only knew the identities of 2 other individuals besides yourself? What if we trained all new "recruits" to never reveal the identity of their 3 partners, even to close buddies/family/lovers?
Encrypted packet tunnels, with endpoints outside of any single goverment's jurisdiction. Practical, if not perfect, anonymity.
Oh, and free domain names. A network where projects like bnetd wouldn't have any troubles. A way to weed out the AOLers, and all the riffraff. Email accounts where you wouldn't get any spam.
Guys, help me figure this out... it's worth doing.
Your sig is wrong. To refuse returns would be fraud or larceny of some type. Generally carries a stiffer penalty/sentence than petty theft.
Actually, why not abandon the internet? I am working on a replacement after all... I would like to have been able to keep the internet for myself and those like me, but it was stolen from all of us years ago. I'm sorry, but I don't want to be living on an internet "reservation" (apologies to native americans) which just happens to be only those parts no corporations wanted.
Oh, and since I never made this obvious... I not only don't mind the idea of alternate Meta's, I think it would be good to have several distinct/seperate Meta's in existence. So if you think you have what it takes, build your own!
I agree with your sentiment, but your conclusions are absurd. If anything, the domain holder is the one that is SOL. Time and again, this has been proven, even in courts of law.
You guys are lucky... the 23 is a Qbus system(?) Unibus is Qbus's flaky cousin, near as I can tell. Besides, I'm limited to 32kwords of core (though, it is interesting to see a 32kb memory circuit board that is nearly 3 times the size of an ATX motherboard).
If anyone is interested, I might be willing to set up accounts on mine, if everyone behaved themselves. That is, if I can get it up and running...