Hear hear! Those of us that learned assembler on the big iron (IBM mainframes) totally agree. Teaching new students to assembler in AT&T format was something I was NOT going to do.
Notepad++ is my favorite, but windows only. It just has all the most important features. Since I'm not on Windows much anymore, I've had to move on... Atom is pretty decent on the Mac (ignoring how huge it is), Gedit is increasingly indecent and unstable, but it's close to Notepad++ in features.
If you like notepad++ on Windows, check you the Scite editor http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE... on *nix systems. Same engine, just as fast, horrendus config file tho . . .
As a Junior (in 1976), I got to program in BASIC by timesharing into the Dartmouth computers, where BASIC was invented! There was also some lecture on what computers were and could do, but the majority of time was spent in a local college lab programming.
Senior year I got to code FORTRAN on punched cards in my Calculus class. Our teacher had a deal with a different local college that allowed us time on their IBM mainframe (maybe a 360 . ..).
Actually really enjoyed both experiences, but that did not translate over in College. I became a computer professional after being in the "real world".
Heck, I wrote a lot of 370 (and 370/XA) code in assembly on mainframes. Different call structure (no stack, although the newer mainframes have that now) and register conventions (don't ever use register 1, register 0 is right out, and return back to your caller through the address in register 14, etc.). A lot of fun writing assembly code for system exits, in-house utilities, and invoking services not normally provided to the higher-level languages (like dynamic allocation of datasets).
Those were fun days . . .
Heck yes you can do web pages in Cobol, given the latest CICS (for you non-mainframers: Customer Information and Control System) setup.
It's also possible to do so from MicoFocus COBOL http://www.microfocus.com/products/RMCOBOL/COBOLCGI.asp
Truly?? I knew how to use the editor (vi) on a Sun box. No one else did, so I became the SysAdmin. Now I maintain a Mainframe (OS/390 to the unwashed), 25 AIX machines, and some Linux machines.
Oh, and I helped I had been an MVS/CICS Systems programmer for 10 years prior to the work on the Sun box.
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Hear hear! Those of us that learned assembler on the big iron (IBM mainframes) totally agree. Teaching new students to assembler in AT&T format was something I was NOT going to do.
Nope. Punched cards was the era of fixed length fields . . . You described each field with a size, including packed decimal numbers.
Notepad++ is my favorite, but windows only. It just has all the most important features. Since I'm not on Windows much anymore, I've had to move on... Atom is pretty decent on the Mac (ignoring how huge it is), Gedit is increasingly indecent and unstable, but it's close to Notepad++ in features.
If you like notepad++ on Windows, check you the Scite editor http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE... on *nix systems. Same engine, just as fast, horrendus config file tho . . .
As a Junior (in 1976), I got to program in BASIC by timesharing into the Dartmouth computers, where BASIC was invented! There was also some lecture on what computers were and could do, but the majority of time was spent in a local college lab programming. Senior year I got to code FORTRAN on punched cards in my Calculus class. Our teacher had a deal with a different local college that allowed us time on their IBM mainframe (maybe a 360 . . .).
Actually really enjoyed both experiences, but that did not translate over in College. I became a computer professional after being in the "real world".
Heck, I wrote a lot of 370 (and 370/XA) code in assembly on mainframes. Different call structure (no stack, although the newer mainframes have that now) and register conventions (don't ever use register 1, register 0 is right out, and return back to your caller through the address in register 14, etc.). A lot of fun writing assembly code for system exits, in-house utilities, and invoking services not normally provided to the higher-level languages (like dynamic allocation of datasets). Those were fun days . . .
Heck yes you can do web pages in Cobol, given the latest CICS (for you non-mainframers: Customer Information and Control System) setup. It's also possible to do so from MicoFocus COBOL http://www.microfocus.com/products/RMCOBOL/COBOLCGI.asp
Truly?? I knew how to use the editor (vi) on a Sun box. No one else did, so I became the SysAdmin. Now I maintain a Mainframe (OS/390 to the unwashed), 25 AIX machines, and some Linux machines.
Oh, and I helped I had been an MVS/CICS Systems programmer for 10 years prior to the work on the Sun box.