I will repeat what one (brilliant man who runs Plan9...) person said at a LUG meeting...
Developers should NEVER work with bleeding edge computers...because then they develop for that platform so what turns out seems fine to them running a P4 2.8 GHZ computer totally blows on something like a pIII 500 mhz...which you are right really isn't that old!
Developers (mostly of desktop software) should be developing on really old crap...then it will run well on everything upwards even better!
There are no apt-rpm repositories for MDK-9 probably because MDK-9 hasn't actually been released yet...
on that note though Texstar of PCLinuxOnline.com has brought Synaptic/apt-rpm stuff from Connectiva over to Mandrake 8.2 and provides an apt-rpm repository.
I am sure he will do the same for MDK-9 when it finally gets released!
-Mandrake Linux ProSuite 8.2 + first update CD
-Red Hat Linux 7.3 with glibc 2.2.5-39+kernel 2.4.18-10 or later
-SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional + aaa_base and Kernel Update
Filters (importing/exporting) are only a temporary solution. If only maybe for the sole reason that MS will break it's format to make them useless again.
But for the reason that we need to create an open file format. I know there is some work going on with the OpenOffice project to do so, but it needs to have the support of all office suites and applications.
I greatly applaud, and welcome, the Gobe production suite, but all we need are more proprietary file formats.
If we could get everyone...WordPerfect, StarOffice, Hancom, Gobe, KOffice, Gnome, etc. to band together to create an "Open File Foundation" to create a standard to which each could build file formats that could be shared accross platforms and applications suites the magnatude of such a collaboration would be huge!
It would be(or is) my dream that one day an office could theoretically have each of it's employee's using their office suite of choice and be able to seemlessly share documents amoung co-workers and others outside the office!
This could be the very straw that broke the camels back, so to say. If MS did not want to comply with the Open Standards it faces incompatability with the rest of the world. In this day and age of the internet, p2p infrastructure, and the like, it's a common compatibilty, not only across platforms but across applications, that is going to be needed.
People will eventually see this and if MS dosn't want to play...so be it, alternatives abound!
This not only goes for File formats but also to other formats such as audio, video, and other streaming media. Ogg is a nice place to start and I pray it takes hold.
The days of closed formats and single platform narrow mindedness are coming to and end!
So for the time being...and unfortunatly a requirement to even get into the door to create such standards...yes we do need decent filters!
but only for a temporary solution!
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I will repeat what one (brilliant man who runs Plan9...) person said at a LUG meeting...
Developers should NEVER work with bleeding edge computers...because then they develop for that platform so what turns out seems fine to them running a P4 2.8 GHZ computer totally blows on something like a pIII 500 mhz...which you are right really isn't that old!
Developers (mostly of desktop software) should be developing on really old crap...then it will run well on everything upwards even better!
There are no apt-rpm repositories for MDK-9 probably because MDK-9 hasn't actually been released yet...
on that note though Texstar of PCLinuxOnline.com has brought Synaptic/apt-rpm stuff from Connectiva over to Mandrake 8.2 and provides an apt-rpm repository.
I am sure he will do the same for MDK-9 when it finally gets released!
(http://www.opengroup.org/lsb/cert/cert_prodlist.t pl?CALLER=display_product.tpl)
-Mandrake Linux ProSuite 8.2 + first update CD
-Red Hat Linux 7.3 with glibc 2.2.5-39+kernel 2.4.18-10 or later
-SuSE Linux 8.0 Professional + aaa_base and Kernel Update
what about infusion?
...and maybe someone will start
development on this again!!
i don't think it has been in active development for a while but it once looked very promising.
it uses the Citadel/UX Communication Server
to do all the messeging stuff...and it's free.
check out the screenshots
reKall from theKompany is supposed to do this. I don't think it is actually complete yet but looks promising!
http://www.thekompany.com/products/rekall/
it currently supports mysql, postgresql, and xbase but is supposed to get support from more with the coming port to QT3.
It has has an integrated python debugger for scripting! sweet...
Filters (importing/exporting) are only a temporary solution. If only maybe for the sole reason that MS will break it's format to make them useless again.
But for the reason that we need to create an open file format. I know there is some work going on with the OpenOffice project to do so, but it needs to have the support of all office suites and applications.
I greatly applaud, and welcome, the Gobe production suite, but all we need are more proprietary file formats.
If we could get everyone...WordPerfect, StarOffice, Hancom, Gobe, KOffice, Gnome, etc. to band together to create an "Open File Foundation" to create a standard to which each could build file formats that could be shared accross platforms and applications suites the magnatude of such a collaboration would be huge!
It would be(or is) my dream that one day an office could theoretically have each of it's employee's using their office suite of choice and be able to seemlessly share documents amoung co-workers and others outside the office!
This could be the very straw that broke the camels back, so to say. If MS did not want to comply with the Open Standards it faces incompatability with the rest of the world. In this day and age of the internet, p2p infrastructure, and the like, it's a common compatibilty, not only across platforms but across applications, that is going to be needed. People will eventually see this and if MS dosn't want to play...so be it, alternatives abound!
This not only goes for File formats but also to other formats such as audio, video, and other streaming media. Ogg is a nice place to start and I pray it takes hold.
The days of closed formats and single platform narrow mindedness are coming to and end!
So for the time being...and unfortunatly a requirement to even get into the door to create such standards...yes we do need decent filters! but only for a temporary solution!