It's the modern equivalent of saving all your personal letters and other correspondence. What the heck is abnormal about that? In the old days you'd have a bundle of letters stored in the attic somewhere. But this doesn't result in heaps of paper or file cabinets full of it that get in your way, as it does for people with a genuine mental problem [wikipedia.org]
But you wouldn't save your junk mail, would you? Grocery store fliers? Credit card offers?
I dislike GMail for my professional correspondence for a number of reasons: (1) it does not allow me to readily use my university affiliation address (and since that's a top university, that makes a difference whether people like it or not), (2) I do not have ownership of my email, (3) the lack of a good filing / archiving interface makes it hard to associate different threads together, or to limit searches (I intensely dislike the tagging feature), (4) GMail has an only rudimentary ability to edit text since it's browser-based.
So...
1. Yes it does. So long as your university allows you SMTP access, then Gmail can send email from your University address.
2. Your University let's you own your email? No archiving or backup there? Interesting. I thought most Universities had a robust email retention policy these days.
3. Gmail threads emails by default, has labels for filing, and you can even use postini if you have retention needs.
4. What do you need to do, edit wise, that you can't with the Gmail RTE? Have you used it lately? If the Gmail RTE isn't good enough, there's a myriad of plugin RTE gadgets you can use too. Just sayin...
Use whatever you want, and it's your business, but I don't see how any of your requirements are not fulfilled by Gmail.
So on the one hand, you think my saving email for later access and analysis is not useful, but then, you want to know why it is useful?
No, I wanted to know how saving email was the best way in which to accomplish the goal of demographic analysis. Now that you've explained what you do it *for*, which, for the record, I couldn't be less interested in BTW, I'm interested in how you achieve that goal with saved email? Last I've looked, and I could be way wrong, country of origin isn't listed in the email header. Also, IP addresses can't be that reliable two years after the fact either. So, how do you get country of origin from two year old emails? (not sarcastic either, I'm interested)
When I run events, I need to be able to post-hoc review all of the correspondence for demographic analysis, often done two years after the event when the final reports are being written. Saying that this sort of behavior is odd, or not normal is either being a troll, or not understanding how the world works when you're not just a drone.
This sort of behavior is odd and not normal. If you want to keep your email, then that's fine, but thinking that it's "vitally important" is odd and I think without question points to some "OCD with some component of Aspberger". If you don't then maybe you need to re-evaluate.
I am however interested in how you pull demographic analysis out of emails? I mean, hopefully you're not suggesting that you go and chomp on the text to pull out fields of data?
IMO, this is one of the best Slashdot questions ever, and I am greatly anticipating hearing some good answers, especially if they don't include suggesting GMail as a panacea,
I think that GMail could be the panacea here. I mean, if you're just trying to make sure it lasts and you can search it with ease, then GMail can do it better than you can.
YOU say that that is what this is about, but many Net Neutrality Proponents say otherwise, that AT&T shouldnt be allowed to throttle Torrents/etc.
I think that's generally what sane people think it's about. I will, however, say this: I don't see why *your* Skype traffic should be given preference over *my* midget transvestite traffic. Why is you talking to your grandmother more important than me discovering a new universe?
FYI, I've had AT&T DSL service for about 5 years now without any serious problems.... So knock AT&T all you want. Actual user experience speaks contrary to your claims.
I've been with AT&T for five years, just like you, but my experience has been vastly different than yours. I pay for "Business Class" 6/3 DSL. Goes down constantly, and when it does, it's impossible to get them on the customer service line in under 25 minutes. The speeds never get near 6/3 and the connection has been off more than it's been on these last 2 months. It's an old neighborhood, and I'm sure the infrastructure is terrible, but they still take my money. I've opened no less than 20 tickets in the last 6 months, and they've been resolved individually, but as a chronic problem, there seems to be nothing they are willing to do about it. I had a line tech tell me they needed to replace the run of cable, and they just wouldn't approve it. I was so pissed that I went and got a "Clear Wire" 4G modem and I'm currently rocking that, and looking forward to telling ATT to go pound sand.
But it won't matter if they control the network, if you build a secure encrypted network on top of it. You could root every machine between me and my bank. With the right protocols, you wouldn't be able to sniff or forge any traffic whatsoever. The worst you could do is a DOS.
Yes, and that's what we should advocate. Everyone build a secure encrypted network. Ready.....GO!
what they are mostly the target is idiot users that leave them wide open and never update them.
Leaving them wide open has nothing to do with it. The exploits are based on hardware/firmware vulnerabilities. As far as updating them, yeah, that's great for you and me, but to most average router users the router is an appliance, like a clock radio, and they don't know they need to be updated. Not to mention how confidence wanes when they get one look at the the horrific warnings you get when you do try and upgrade the firmware on a router.
They are in plenty of risk already, wouldn't you say? I'd say that their commanders put them more at risk than this video does. Same goes for th POTUS.
If your a civilian you would be smart enough to walk/run away fromt eh dude with the rpgs and ak-47s in a war zone where it's illegal to have said weapons.
It's perfectly legal, and quite common, to own and carry an AK-47 in Iraq.
I've watched the video and I'm sorry but I thought those were weapons in their hands as well. RPG and AK's in a zone that you are trying to clear out? Check. Light 'em up. The guys shooting were wrong about the weapons and that sucks. The real issue here is the verification of danger. Of course when you unleash a force to stop all other potential force, people are going end up killing each other.
Maybe. But the van? That was a guy helping an unarmed wounded man. Firing on that guy was against the law. Plain and simple. Geneva conventions and UN conventions. You can't shoot unarmed wounded people who pose no risk to you. Not to mention people that come to their aid.
According to Mussolini, fascism is the same as corporatism.
You sir, are a dumbass. These are the (translated) words of Benito Mussolini in 1932 for the Italian Encyclopedia.
"...Fascism [is] the complete opposite ofMarxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society.... "
No it doesn't. It means it will come-out of the corporation's pockets. i.e. Less money for the CEO and his management team's salaries/bonuses. (Excuse me if I don't cry about that.)
What CEO? If you go to the hospital, and can't pay, eventually it falls on the hospital to cover the cost. They get paid by medicare/medicaid to help pay for some of the cost, but then it gets passed on to the rest of the insured. I think the general figure being bantered about is roughly $455/individual and $1,186 per household per year, in increased insurance premiums and higher deductibles.
Human error led them to believe that they were armed. They mistook a DSLR with a big zoom lens and a shoulder strap for an AK-47.
So? You're allowed to carry an AK in Iraq. Doesn't make you a combatant. And there's certainly no excuse for blowing up that van, that was picking up the wounded. And then, there's the whole cover-up....
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It's the modern equivalent of saving all your personal letters and other correspondence. What the heck is abnormal about that? In the old days you'd have a bundle of letters stored in the attic somewhere. But this doesn't result in heaps of paper or file cabinets full of it that get in your way, as it does for people with a genuine mental problem [wikipedia.org]
But you wouldn't save your junk mail, would you? Grocery store fliers? Credit card offers?
I dislike GMail for my professional correspondence for a number of reasons: (1) it does not allow me to readily use my university affiliation address (and since that's a top university, that makes a difference whether people like it or not), (2) I do not have ownership of my email, (3) the lack of a good filing / archiving interface makes it hard to associate different threads together, or to limit searches (I intensely dislike the tagging feature), (4) GMail has an only rudimentary ability to edit text since it's browser-based.
So...
1. Yes it does. So long as your university allows you SMTP access, then Gmail can send email from your University address.
2. Your University let's you own your email? No archiving or backup there? Interesting. I thought most Universities had a robust email retention policy these days.
3. Gmail threads emails by default, has labels for filing, and you can even use postini if you have retention needs.
4. What do you need to do, edit wise, that you can't with the Gmail RTE? Have you used it lately? If the Gmail RTE isn't good enough, there's a myriad of plugin RTE gadgets you can use too. Just sayin...
Use whatever you want, and it's your business, but I don't see how any of your requirements are not fulfilled by Gmail.
So on the one hand, you think my saving email for later access and analysis is not useful, but then, you want to know why it is useful?
No, I wanted to know how saving email was the best way in which to accomplish the goal of demographic analysis. Now that you've explained what you do it *for*, which, for the record, I couldn't be less interested in BTW, I'm interested in how you achieve that goal with saved email? Last I've looked, and I could be way wrong, country of origin isn't listed in the email header. Also, IP addresses can't be that reliable two years after the fact either. So, how do you get country of origin from two year old emails? (not sarcastic either, I'm interested)
When I run events, I need to be able to post-hoc review all of the correspondence for demographic analysis, often done two years after the event when the final reports are being written. Saying that this sort of behavior is odd, or not normal is either being a troll, or not understanding how the world works when you're not just a drone.
This sort of behavior is odd and not normal. If you want to keep your email, then that's fine, but thinking that it's "vitally important" is odd and I think without question points to some "OCD with some component of Aspberger". If you don't then maybe you need to re-evaluate. I am however interested in how you pull demographic analysis out of emails? I mean, hopefully you're not suggesting that you go and chomp on the text to pull out fields of data?
IMO, this is one of the best Slashdot questions ever, and I am greatly anticipating hearing some good answers, especially if they don't include suggesting GMail as a panacea,
I think that GMail could be the panacea here. I mean, if you're just trying to make sure it lasts and you can search it with ease, then GMail can do it better than you can.
YOU say that that is what this is about, but many Net Neutrality Proponents say otherwise, that AT&T shouldnt be allowed to throttle Torrents/etc.
I think that's generally what sane people think it's about. I will, however, say this: I don't see why *your* Skype traffic should be given preference over *my* midget transvestite traffic. Why is you talking to your grandmother more important than me discovering a new universe?
FYI, I've had AT&T DSL service for about 5 years now without any serious problems .... So knock AT&T all you want. Actual user experience speaks contrary to your claims.
I've been with AT&T for five years, just like you, but my experience has been vastly different than yours. I pay for "Business Class" 6/3 DSL. Goes down constantly, and when it does, it's impossible to get them on the customer service line in under 25 minutes. The speeds never get near 6/3 and the connection has been off more than it's been on these last 2 months. It's an old neighborhood, and I'm sure the infrastructure is terrible, but they still take my money. I've opened no less than 20 tickets in the last 6 months, and they've been resolved individually, but as a chronic problem, there seems to be nothing they are willing to do about it. I had a line tech tell me they needed to replace the run of cable, and they just wouldn't approve it. I was so pissed that I went and got a "Clear Wire" 4G modem and I'm currently rocking that, and looking forward to telling ATT to go pound sand.
But it won't matter if they control the network, if you build a secure encrypted network on top of it. You could root every machine between me and my bank. With the right protocols, you wouldn't be able to sniff or forge any traffic whatsoever. The worst you could do is a DOS.
Yes, and that's what we should advocate. Everyone build a secure encrypted network. Ready.....GO!
what they are mostly the target is idiot users that leave them wide open and never update them.
Leaving them wide open has nothing to do with it. The exploits are based on hardware/firmware vulnerabilities. As far as updating them, yeah, that's great for you and me, but to most average router users the router is an appliance, like a clock radio, and they don't know they need to be updated. Not to mention how confidence wanes when they get one look at the the horrific warnings you get when you do try and upgrade the firmware on a router.
...and sometimes highly editing then releasing a stolen video (aka lying) is the only way to get support for a leftist political cause.
You sir, are a dumbass. Did you not see them shoot up the van? Picking up the wounded? You know that's a war crime right?
and put our men and women at risk.
They are in plenty of risk already, wouldn't you say? I'd say that their commanders put them more at risk than this video does. Same goes for th POTUS.
And the van? What weapon did it have?
That "RPG" around the corner is a camera lens. In fact, it's this camera lens.
If your a civilian you would be smart enough to walk/run away fromt eh dude with the rpgs and ak-47s in a war zone where it's illegal to have said weapons.
It's perfectly legal, and quite common, to own and carry an AK-47 in Iraq.
What about the van that was picking up the wounded? What threat did that van pose?
And shooting the van picking up the wounded? How is that not a war crime?
Competent analysis of the video here:
Does competent mean ignorant today? Shooting the van = War crime.
I've watched the video and I'm sorry but I thought those were weapons in their hands as well. RPG and AK's in a zone that you are trying to clear out? Check. Light 'em up. The guys shooting were wrong about the weapons and that sucks. The real issue here is the verification of danger. Of course when you unleash a force to stop all other potential force, people are going end up killing each other.
Maybe. But the van? That was a guy helping an unarmed wounded man. Firing on that guy was against the law. Plain and simple. Geneva conventions and UN conventions. You can't shoot unarmed wounded people who pose no risk to you. Not to mention people that come to their aid.
According to Mussolini, fascism is the same as corporatism.
Don't be confused. They're not the same, it's just that Mussolini advocated them both.
According to Mussolini, fascism is the same as corporatism.
You sir, are a dumbass. These are the (translated) words of Benito Mussolini in 1932 for the Italian Encyclopedia.
"...Fascism [is] the complete opposite ofMarxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society.... "
That sound like corporatism to you?
No it doesn't. It means it will come-out of the corporation's pockets. i.e. Less money for the CEO and his management team's salaries/bonuses. (Excuse me if I don't cry about that.)
What CEO? If you go to the hospital, and can't pay, eventually it falls on the hospital to cover the cost. They get paid by medicare/medicaid to help pay for some of the cost, but then it gets passed on to the rest of the insured. I think the general figure being bantered about is roughly $455/individual and $1,186 per household per year, in increased insurance premiums and higher deductibles.
They had reason to believe there were a number of hostiles in that group, with weapons.
But what about the van?
Human error led them to believe that they were armed. They mistook a DSLR with a big zoom lens and a shoulder strap for an AK-47.
So? You're allowed to carry an AK in Iraq. Doesn't make you a combatant. And there's certainly no excuse for blowing up that van, that was picking up the wounded. And then, there's the whole cover-up....
The military personnel CLEARLY thought that crowd had an RPG, AK and other weapons.
And what about the ambulance? What was it carrying, aside from the wounded, which you are not allowed to fire upon? And the cover-up?
I highly recommend everyone read Killing Hope by William Blum to get a good rundown of how much this has been happening in just the last 60 years.
I recommend The American Way of War: Guided Missiles, Misguided Men, and a Republic in Peril, by Eugene Jarecki. It does a pretty good job as well.