It's funny that I only noticed you're the author of the message I originally flamed.:-)
As for my reply, I was trying to prove that not everybody that dislikes a part of the American population is ignorant. Or something.
Someone vents a little frustration, and you're not sure if it makes you hate an entire nation of diverse people? Way to have command of your own mind there, Sparky. Way to have clarity of vision.
Because of people like him, which are quite abundent. Vents a little frustration?
Are you from one of those countries that Saddam bought off? No, thank you very much, I'm from a country that's been behind the US for the duration of the war, even though we're useless sods when it comes to war. The USA may be shit, but the rest of the worl is shittier. Yeah, sure. Yes, my country is shittier, but that doesn't mean every other country is shittier. The US isn't the best there is, though, ya know? If you _do_ think that, you should get out more.
And what triggered this? Of course, like every other non-american, I'm desperately hoping Bush loses
Geez, how's that for clarity of vision.
The problem is that it never is limited to "anti the current administration". The problem is that we are continually broad brush bashed as a people (despite being one of the most diversely populated nations in history) by others in the world who have just as many problems and issues as we do, if not more. You expect us to just bend over and ask for more.
I can assure you I am not thinking you have more problems than we do, but I am certain we don't feel we own the world. (We're not in the position to, but that's irrelevant.) It's actually _you_ that expect the rest of the world to bend over and ask for more.
I loved the study last year where they found a lot of people around the world got their main view of everyday life in the USA from The Sopranos. There's people out there who literally think we're a nation of mobsters. They buy into this media image lock stock and two smoking barrels. That's why we laugh when people call US ignorant of the rest of the world. EVERYONE is ignorant.
I can also assure you I don't belive you're a nation of mobsters after watching Sopranos (Which study was that anyway?). "There's people"? You mean, there's a people that thinks that? Which people would that be? The Iraqis? The Afganis? Again, it's not that we're not ignorant, it's just that we don't pretend to be better than everybody else.
It's the HYPOCRACY that's tiring, not the criticism. The criticism we could give a fleck of gnat's shit about, because it's mostly based on ignorance.
HYPOCRACY? What's that, is it anything like hypocrisy? From what you've said so far, _you_ are the ignorant one here. Indeed, there are degrees of ignorance, so one may say "you are the most ignorant one". Isn't that hypocrisy on _YOUR_ part? Criticising us for being ignorant, while being one yourself?
And, yes, my criticism is based on ignorance, but a different kind of ignorance, the willful ignorance of your self-centered, pretentious attitude towards the rest of the world.
I am fully aware however that not all Americans are like you and the AC that I was talking about, so I still have hopes for some Americans, the ones that do try to think further than their mesely country, which harbors under one fiftieth of the world's population.
As for the squabble with your own country, you're voting for the Lesser Evil, so I'm not going to argue with you.:-)
Nah, the way I figure it, they will probably mod the original post down. Which is, again, wasteful, since the mistake should be made obvious to more people. But, then again, this is Slashdot, we shouldn't expect people (especially moderators) to think.
Damn it. This is a classic example of wasting mod points. Instead of modding the parent down, they mod me up. Sheesh, I only pointed out the mistake in his argument, it's not like I actually had something interesting or informative to say!
BTW, everyone gives Bush shit about the patriot act (I'm not for it myself) but FDR locked up thousands of US citizens after 12/7/1941 without due process or a trial of any kind.
Mea culpa indeed, as the Washington Redskins do not play their home games in Washington D.C., even though they are based there. They, however, are NOT based in the Washington state (I'm not familiar with U.S. sports teams, but I don't know of any that's named after the state it's based in.).
So, with 10 electors in Maryland, and 3 in D.C. (I'm guessing people from both states attend the matches.), it's one in ~41 electors, ~2.5%. Which, albeit much higher than my original figure, still is too low to influence all 17 elections.
How did you come to that figure? The fact that there are 6 billion people on Earth doesn't mean each person is affected by a one in a billion event per day. And, boy, 'Insightful'?
I'll be off trying to calculate wether I should sing
The Hedgehog Song on the night of the elections for Kerry to win by 1337 votes. Million to one chance, really.
Yes, but what they claimed (And, amazingly enough, they were right) was that the attacker needed to gain local access first, by exploiting a service. Nevertheless, claiming that Debian was to blame was a bit off.
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Yes, some of the bugs in there may not be bugs at all, but some are valid. I didn't say qmail should be 'struck down', even though I see no reason to use it what with modern MTAs around (MTA flame war!:-P), I was just debating the parent's claim that qmail is relatively bug free.
I should know, this is my post. In hindsight, maybe I should've actually explained what I meant by those two examples.
The first, the one about the Debian machines being compromised was to show nothing is unbreakable (even though the Debian people made some mistakes in configuring those machines, their far from being responsible for that). The second, the MPlayer one was to show that a clueless admin (Okay, I know I shouldn't call the MPlayer people names based on a single experience, but that's the impression I got from that thread.) matters more than the distribution he or she uses.
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Because it makes it easy to keep track of wether you're vulnerable or not. Because it makes it obvious something important changed. Because it allows them to release a couple of other patches as well.
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And considering the number of people that are voting for Bush, it doesn't turn the stomach of moderate republicans/non-affiliateds, either.
It's funny that I only noticed you're the author of the message I originally flamed. :-)
As for my reply, I was trying to prove that not everybody that dislikes a part of the American population is ignorant. Or something.
Yeah, we all know God is boring, that's why we threw him out of politics. Oh, wait...
There's always suicide, this way you both rid us of you, and you of us.
Someone vents a little frustration, and you're not sure if it makes you hate an entire nation of diverse people? Way to have command of your own mind there, Sparky. Way to have clarity of vision.
:-)
Because of people like him, which are quite abundent. Vents a little frustration?
Are you from one of those countries that Saddam bought off?
No, thank you very much, I'm from a country that's been behind the US for the duration of the war, even though we're useless sods when it comes to war.
The USA may be shit, but the rest of the worl is shittier.
Yeah, sure. Yes, my country is shittier, but that doesn't mean every other country is shittier. The US isn't the best there is, though, ya know? If you _do_ think that, you should get out more.
And what triggered this?
Of course, like every other non-american, I'm desperately hoping Bush loses
Geez, how's that for clarity of vision.
The problem is that it never is limited to "anti the current administration". The problem is that we are continually broad brush bashed as a people (despite being one of the most diversely populated nations in history) by others in the world who have just as many problems and issues as we do, if not more. You expect us to just bend over and ask for more.
I can assure you I am not thinking you have more problems than we do, but I am certain we don't feel we own the world. (We're not in the position to, but that's irrelevant.) It's actually _you_ that expect the rest of the world to bend over and ask for more.
I loved the study last year where they found a lot of people around the world got their main view of everyday life in the USA from The Sopranos. There's people out there who literally think we're a nation of mobsters. They buy into this media image lock stock and two smoking barrels. That's why we laugh when people call US ignorant of the rest of the world. EVERYONE is ignorant.
I can also assure you I don't belive you're a nation of mobsters after watching Sopranos (Which study was that anyway?).
"There's people"? You mean, there's a people that thinks that? Which people would that be? The Iraqis? The Afganis? Again, it's not that we're not ignorant, it's just that we don't pretend to be better than everybody else.
It's the HYPOCRACY that's tiring, not the criticism. The criticism we could give a fleck of gnat's shit about, because it's mostly based on ignorance.
HYPOCRACY? What's that, is it anything like hypocrisy? From what you've said so far, _you_ are the ignorant one here. Indeed, there are degrees of ignorance, so one may say "you are the most ignorant one". Isn't that hypocrisy on _YOUR_ part? Criticising us for being ignorant, while being one yourself?
And, yes, my criticism is based on ignorance, but a different kind of ignorance, the willful ignorance of your self-centered, pretentious attitude towards the rest of the world.
I am fully aware however that not all Americans are like you and the AC that I was talking about, so I still have hopes for some Americans, the ones that do try to think further than their mesely country, which harbors under one fiftieth of the world's population.
As for the squabble with your own country, you're voting for the Lesser Evil, so I'm not going to argue with you.
I'll see that and raise you 10 000 ROL.
Nah, the way I figure it, they will probably mod the original post down. Which is, again, wasteful, since the mistake should be made obvious to more people.
But, then again, this is Slashdot, we shouldn't expect people (especially moderators) to think.
Damn it. This is a classic example of wasting mod points. Instead of modding the parent down, they mod me up. Sheesh, I only pointed out the mistake in his argument, it's not like I actually had something interesting or informative to say!
BTW, everyone gives Bush shit about the patriot act (I'm not for it myself) but FDR locked up thousands of US citizens after 12/7/1941 without due process or a trial of any kind.
And that makes the Patriot Act less evil?
Mea culpa indeed, as the Washington Redskins do not play their home games in Washington D.C., even though they are based there. They, however, are NOT based in the Washington state (I'm not familiar with U.S. sports teams, but I don't know of any that's named after the state it's based in.).
So, with 10 electors in Maryland, and 3 in D.C. (I'm guessing people from both states attend the matches.), it's one in ~41 electors, ~2.5%. Which, albeit much higher than my original figure, still is too low to influence all 17 elections.
RTFA. It's the last home game the Redskins play before election day, not their home game against the Packers that season.
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There's nothing I like less than bad arguments for a view that I hold dear. -- Daniel Dennett
Though I agree with you, I have to say it's people like him that make me question wether or not I'm in the second category.
Too bad D.C. only has 3 electors out of 538 electors. That's one in ~197, or ~.5%.
So ignorance _is_ bliss, innit?
That should be "4f73R'. :-)
How did you come to that figure? The fact that there are 6 billion people on Earth doesn't mean each person is affected by a one in a billion event per day. And, boy, 'Insightful'?
I'll be off trying to calculate wether I should sing The Hedgehog Song on the night of the elections for Kerry to win by 1337 votes. Million to one chance, really.
How people use Football.
Why it's called soccer.
For the past 3 years? What, did terrorists come to be only three years ago?
Results 1 - 10 of about 85,800 for slashdot sucks. :-)
You get what you pay for.
The kernel exploit they (And _YOU_) are referring to is a _LOCAL_ exploit, it's the one that affected Debian.
And, by re-reading your post (Yeah, I know. But I'm trying to get drunk here, ya know!), I see you were wrong from the start. See above.
Yes, but what they claimed (And, amazingly enough, they were right) was that the attacker needed to gain local access first, by exploiting a service. Nevertheless, claiming that Debian was to blame was a bit off.
You can easily turn that off.
Yes, some of the bugs in there may not be bugs at all, but some are valid. I didn't say qmail should be 'struck down', even though I see no reason to use it what with modern MTAs around (MTA flame war! :-P), I was just debating the parent's claim that qmail is relatively bug free.
I should know, this is my post. In hindsight, maybe I should've actually explained what I meant by those two examples.
The first, the one about the Debian machines being compromised was to show nothing is unbreakable (even though the Debian people made some mistakes in configuring those machines, their far from being responsible for that).
The second, the MPlayer one was to show that a clueless admin (Okay, I know I shouldn't call the MPlayer people names based on a single experience, but that's the impression I got from that thread.) matters more than the distribution he or she uses.
Because it makes it easy to keep track of wether you're vulnerable or not. Because it makes it obvious something important changed. Because it allows them to release a couple of other patches as well.