What a bunch of crap. So let me get this straight, we're are at fault because of what a people does to itself?
Had we not stepped in at all and minded our own business they would all be dead...
We have one responsibility, and that's to protect our own families. We do not force ourselves on other nations. They won the war aginst Russia because of handouts from us, and they are damned lucky to have gotten them.
Your speaking of a country that executes Americans, and others, if they disagree with the powers that be in that country. Why should we care about their state of being? You must be a complete idiot to expect us to feel sympathetic, and especially to cast blame on us.
First of all that news story was very ONE sided. The entire story revolved around the opintion of a single soviet soldier.
Secondly, we are familiar with Afganistan and countries like them. We've fought in the bloodiest of wars publicly, and special ops (SEALs, Green Berets) have been fighting in places like this (in secret) since their conception... that's the reason behind their being.
If you go back and look at the history of what REALLY happened when the Soviets occupied Afgan you'll find that the Soviets were completely owning the war until the United States stepped in and provided finanical and technological backing to the islams. In reality it was not the Soviets vs. Afgan, it was Soviets vs. United States.
We stepped in because the Soviets we're being their typical selves in trying to force their communist rule over the entire world.
As Americans we shouldn't give a rats ass what anybody in Russia has to say "politically" about what we're doing. They do not support freedom, they opress it, so who gives a damn what he says.
Obviously rushing towards some military strike without thinking about it ahead of time would be stupid... and that's why no bombs or even bullets have been fired thus far.
This attitude of turning the other cheek is absolutely ridiculous and lacks common sense.
"The Afghans will stop fighting each other and join together to fight you," said Izmailov, former battalion commander. "You need courage, but not to drop bombs. What you need courage for is to not drop bombs. Otherwise, your war will be endless."
No crap, that's what their whole goal is, can't you see that? Saddam tried to do the same thing back in the Gulf War... and here we are again preparing for battle against what is the same damn group of people, don't kid yourself.
Let me ask you something. If some guy down the street wants to fight you, can you prevent it? You can dance around the inevitable for only so long. Eventually you're gonna have to throw down with the guy and that's just the way it is... that's the way the world works. Even in our "civilized" society with police, they can't stop a guy from picking a fight with you... after doing something action can be taken but unless you want you're ass kicked you're gonna have to kick his.
And just as in a domestic conflict, the nature of the fight is and always will be decided by whoever is willing to be the ugliest. Unless you're willing to get as ugly as the other guy you WILL LOSE. This can be proven in by looking at thousands of wars fought in the past. The German invasion of Russia is a GREAT example.
Are we as ugly as them? These people are so ugly that they hijacked civilian airliners with innocent women and children, would WE ever even THINK of doing something like that?
India announces U.S. support and what does the Talliban do? They shoot a 10-year old kid at school in India. Would WE ever even consider doing something like that?
No, we wouldn't. But if we're going to win a fight against someone that's that dirty then we're going to have to be as well.
"First, there are no real "bases" for terrorists, they say. Fighters live in ordinary villages. Air or artillery strikes against them will invariably kill civilians."
Who cares? If a population allowes something to go on it's because they support it. 6 million Jews died at the hands of a few thousand German murdurers. No offense to the Jews but they are responible for what happened to them. They did not pull the trigger but they stood there and let it be pulled. Calling the civilians of countries harbouring and supporting these terrorists "innocent" is riddiculous. Just like in Japan when the bombing starts the population will say "Ok, maybe we're wrong. Maybe our leaders are wrong... let's rethink this".
The only way this could turn into another Vietnam is if it becomes a political war because of crap like this. Vietnam was a trajety becuase of politics, nothing more. It was a failure from day one when John F. Kennedy got us into it.
Being soft in responding to attacks like this against us will do nothing but lead to more dead Americans in the long-run. Taking your approach we may be able to put it off for another few years, maybe even twenty, thirty, or fifty... which is a laughable number, but none the less all you're going to do is push a resonsibility that's yours onto your kids or grand-kids. That is the height of selfishness.
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What a bunch of crap. So let me get this straight, we're are at fault because of what a people does to itself? Had we not stepped in at all and minded our own business they would all be dead... We have one responsibility, and that's to protect our own families. We do not force ourselves on other nations. They won the war aginst Russia because of handouts from us, and they are damned lucky to have gotten them. Your speaking of a country that executes Americans, and others, if they disagree with the powers that be in that country. Why should we care about their state of being? You must be a complete idiot to expect us to feel sympathetic, and especially to cast blame on us.
First of all that news story was very ONE sided. The entire story revolved around the opintion of a single soviet soldier. Secondly, we are familiar with Afganistan and countries like them. We've fought in the bloodiest of wars publicly, and special ops (SEALs, Green Berets) have been fighting in places like this (in secret) since their conception... that's the reason behind their being. If you go back and look at the history of what REALLY happened when the Soviets occupied Afgan you'll find that the Soviets were completely owning the war until the United States stepped in and provided finanical and technological backing to the islams. In reality it was not the Soviets vs. Afgan, it was Soviets vs. United States. We stepped in because the Soviets we're being their typical selves in trying to force their communist rule over the entire world. As Americans we shouldn't give a rats ass what anybody in Russia has to say "politically" about what we're doing. They do not support freedom, they opress it, so who gives a damn what he says. Obviously rushing towards some military strike without thinking about it ahead of time would be stupid... and that's why no bombs or even bullets have been fired thus far. This attitude of turning the other cheek is absolutely ridiculous and lacks common sense. "The Afghans will stop fighting each other and join together to fight you," said Izmailov, former battalion commander. "You need courage, but not to drop bombs. What you need courage for is to not drop bombs. Otherwise, your war will be endless." No crap, that's what their whole goal is, can't you see that? Saddam tried to do the same thing back in the Gulf War... and here we are again preparing for battle against what is the same damn group of people, don't kid yourself. Let me ask you something. If some guy down the street wants to fight you, can you prevent it? You can dance around the inevitable for only so long. Eventually you're gonna have to throw down with the guy and that's just the way it is... that's the way the world works. Even in our "civilized" society with police, they can't stop a guy from picking a fight with you... after doing something action can be taken but unless you want you're ass kicked you're gonna have to kick his. And just as in a domestic conflict, the nature of the fight is and always will be decided by whoever is willing to be the ugliest. Unless you're willing to get as ugly as the other guy you WILL LOSE. This can be proven in by looking at thousands of wars fought in the past. The German invasion of Russia is a GREAT example. Are we as ugly as them? These people are so ugly that they hijacked civilian airliners with innocent women and children, would WE ever even THINK of doing something like that? India announces U.S. support and what does the Talliban do? They shoot a 10-year old kid at school in India. Would WE ever even consider doing something like that? No, we wouldn't. But if we're going to win a fight against someone that's that dirty then we're going to have to be as well. "First, there are no real "bases" for terrorists, they say. Fighters live in ordinary villages. Air or artillery strikes against them will invariably kill civilians." Who cares? If a population allowes something to go on it's because they support it. 6 million Jews died at the hands of a few thousand German murdurers. No offense to the Jews but they are responible for what happened to them. They did not pull the trigger but they stood there and let it be pulled. Calling the civilians of countries harbouring and supporting these terrorists "innocent" is riddiculous. Just like in Japan when the bombing starts the population will say "Ok, maybe we're wrong. Maybe our leaders are wrong... let's rethink this". The only way this could turn into another Vietnam is if it becomes a political war because of crap like this. Vietnam was a trajety becuase of politics, nothing more. It was a failure from day one when John F. Kennedy got us into it. Being soft in responding to attacks like this against us will do nothing but lead to more dead Americans in the long-run. Taking your approach we may be able to put it off for another few years, maybe even twenty, thirty, or fifty... which is a laughable number, but none the less all you're going to do is push a resonsibility that's yours onto your kids or grand-kids. That is the height of selfishness.