This trend that you claim to be disturbing is eclipsed by a far more disturbing trend of spammers raping relays, crashing mail servers, promoting scams, and basically stealing. What is so disturbing about denying traffic from an IP block that harbors known theives? Network owners are free to do with their property as they please, even if it means denying rogue traffic.
What facts are your "bottom line" based on -- none -- speculation? Apparently some huge providers such as swbell **ARE** using SPEWS. Think of it this way, optus would not have responded unless a lot of their traffic was suddenly bounced. Finally, black hat ISPs are paying the price for being bad netizens.
antv, your ISPs may be sick of spammers crashing their mail servers. Your ISP has every right to control the property they own and decide whom they communicate with. Would you also be annoyed if your ISP prevented DOS attacks or other security risks from reaching your machine? Why are you so anxious to spend time, money, and bandwidth to receive junk e-mails? Seek out one of the ISPs listed on SPEWS if you love spam so much.
I disagree. What is working with SPEWS is the amount of "collateral damage" that ISP spam support policies are having on innocent bystanders. Nothing talks louder than an irate customer telling their ISP to clean up their act or lose business! It has certainly gotten optus to change, while polite requests were simply ignored.
Time will tell if SPEWS actually makes a dent in spamming. Things look good so far -- some huge ISPs are using the SPEWS list, while other huge ISPs are paying the price for harboring spammers. However, a lot of other things started with a lot of promise but proved to be too slow or ineffective.
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This trend that you claim to be disturbing is eclipsed by a far more disturbing trend of spammers raping relays, crashing mail servers, promoting scams, and basically stealing. What is so disturbing about denying traffic from an IP block that harbors known theives? Network owners are free to do with their property as they please, even if it means denying rogue traffic.
What facts are your "bottom line" based on -- none -- speculation? Apparently some huge providers such as swbell **ARE** using SPEWS. Think of it this way, optus would not have responded unless a lot of their traffic was suddenly bounced. Finally, black hat ISPs are paying the price for being bad netizens.
But harboring spammers deserves punishment. Optus has at last kicked of this NOTORIOUS spammer's DNS server.
antv, your ISPs may be sick of spammers crashing their mail servers. Your ISP has every right to control the property they own and decide whom they communicate with. Would you also be annoyed if your ISP prevented DOS attacks or other security risks from reaching your machine? Why are you so anxious to spend time, money, and bandwidth to receive junk e-mails? Seek out one of the ISPs listed on SPEWS if you love spam so much.
I disagree. What is working with SPEWS is the amount of "collateral damage" that ISP spam support policies are having on innocent bystanders. Nothing talks louder than an irate customer telling their ISP to clean up their act or lose business! It has certainly gotten optus to change, while polite requests were simply ignored. Time will tell if SPEWS actually makes a dent in spamming. Things look good so far -- some huge ISPs are using the SPEWS list, while other huge ISPs are paying the price for harboring spammers. However, a lot of other things started with a lot of promise but proved to be too slow or ineffective.