Seriously, it's kind of a lame question to ask. But if someone really ahs to ask...
If you want a distribution that just works and doesn't screw your installation from upgrade to upgrade then go with Debian. It doesn't a great job supporting LATEX and everything else you mentioned. And it works. It's stable.
I'm going to assume that if you are using this for your school projects and reports you would rather choose an older more stable distro over volitale latest and greatest. Debian, unlike unbuntu et al, prizes itself in their indisputable stability and consistency of performance over the notion of being the latest and greatest installation even if it fries your database or desktop environment.
What's the best distro for a newb? No fucking clue. Depends on what you want?
RedHat is a great installation if you want to support the vendor management model.
SuSE is great is you are a Microsoft Bitch.
Debian is very popular with people who don't mind an older installation if it's going to remain stable and working for months on end.
Unbuntu is great if you have to have the bleeding edge of every installation, even if you don't mind a little blood on your thesis projects.
Slackware is awesome if you actually want to learn what the heck is going on with Linux.
Get em all and try each one for a couple of days and see what sucks and what doesn't and then please don't bother telling us about it because we don't really care.
Give this man a cigar! Lee Iococoa (sp?) and his mini-van saved Chrysler and created the SUV. He could sell the mini-van to everyone as a consumer vehicle, but it was classified as a commericial truck (like a pick-up).
The real irony is that the environmental, emissions, and crash safety of these SUV's, trucks, and vans are less than the sedan or wagon counterparts and these relatively unsafe vehicles are the one's that everyone wants to drive their babies around in. Might as well use a cattle wagon. If they really gave a crap about what they are doing, they would drive a station wagon or a sedan.
The next time you go to a car show, take a bunch of friends. See how many of them can get into a SUV, a mid-size sedan, station wagon or compact. I have a VW golf. It holds 4 people, three guitars, and a large amplifier. It's not a ride I would take for 4 hours, but it works for going from the basement to the studio and back again. Does the SUV really do that much better? How many times a year do you really need to be able to carry that fourth guitar? Then have someone else drive too.
Won't work. You can't beat the PAC and special interest groups.
But if you start pushing your money into a new segment of the economy then the businesses will follow your money and they will drive the PAC and Special Interest groups into the same direction. And it doesn't matter who you vote for. And it will happen very nicely.
How long did it take for the US to decide they want to invade Iraq?
How long did it take for the US to start subsidizing E85 fuel?
Guess which one was faster? E85! Why? Because ADM sells corn and ethanol. GM figured out how to make E85/Gasoline engines. And they believe they can make money and corner the market for E85 fuel.
Funny part is, E85 is a really bad idea all the way around. It's very expensive and less efficient than gasoline, diesel, or bio-diesel. But they believe they can use marketing to convince people to buy E85 even if it makes no economic or financial sense. The idea is you can believe you are saving your environment while spending 50% more money without really making a difference.
So the best thing you can do is ignore the E85 crap and see what else you can buy as a real alternative. Study the options and choose intelligently.
There is one idea I've seen applied again and again but with limited degrees of success.
It's somewhere around Razor, RBL, and spam filtering.
RAZOR works in two modes: submitter and query. Most people do not run RAZOR as a submitter. My experience a few years back with RAZOR was that is was not very effective compared to local filters like spamassassin and bogofilter. So who wants to waste the bandwidth testing all the time?
RBL tests against a given domain. Effective but implementations vary from prissy to multi-warhead nuclear assault.
I found one RBL that I liked in concept but it was badly implimented. The idea goes like this:
If you find spam, you submit the HELO address the connected to your server and they are registered with a score+1.
When you get a HELO request you check it against this RBL.
With enough participants and a high enough ratio of HELO-spam and HELO-good emails you can an effective and dynamic blacklist.
If you used a ration of something like 50:1 then you would shutdown a mail domain and keep them on the RBL for a period of time (
Cumulative spam ratio or 24 hour ratio > 10:1 -- list for 12 hours.
Cumulative or 24 hour ratio > 100:1 -- list for 168 hours (1 week).
Cumulative ratio of 1000:1 -- list for 12 months or permanently.
All mail servers will not have to pay to have a CA signed SSL key resulting in millions or even billions of dollars consumed on what amounts to regulatory expenses.
All mail servers must sign each piece of mail as it passes through their systems. This signature must sign the complete message, including the signatures of previous servers in the path.
I'm not sure how this is going to be much different than Received By: headers other than it now comes with an SSL key that is either made up on the fly or very expensive for the mail server to keep available (see comment one)
All mail servers must support an automated abuse handling mailbox, autoabuse@domain for responses to spam messages.
Why? So you can deliver spam to this address like you do postmaster today? Are you going to automate it to shutdown accounts? That's an awesome DOS tool that you are handing out to everyone in the world to use.
Dude. I'm not even going to finish with the rest of these.
Perhaps it would be more effective if we simply hunted down and executed the top spammers in the streets and made it clear that it won't be tolerated. When you have some dickhole like Alan Ralston living in Birmingham MI and articles are published in the local paper about how he is the Spam King AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT then you have a problem. A friend went by his new house he was building (bought by penis adds) and was chased down and almost driven off the road by one of his ghouls. The police disputed the video footage and implied it looked like he was driving recklessly and they might need to review his driving records...
Shoot the fuckers on the street is OK with me.
But what you propose won't do anything other than make it really expensive.
And how do you seperate the hard spam from the marketing material that every company has a right to deliver?
Almost. But I wasn't getting that message from Bush.
The line he's been pushing is, to my knowledge:
There is a scientifically measured indication of global warming.
There is scientific evidence of an increase in Carbon Dioxide content in the air.
Is is presumed that the higher Carbon Dioxide is entirely the result of human industry.
It is a hypothesis that the industrial contribution of Carbon Dioxide has a direct and positive correlation to the measured global temperatures.
It is unknown if the current global warming trend is one that is an entirely natural cycle of the planet irregardless of human industrial contributions, a trend that is entirely the direct and full result of human industry, or some mixture between the two (human industry augmeting an already natural phenomenon)
There is no direct evidence or proof to indicate that a change in human industrial behaviour will have any effect on Carbon Dioxide emissions. (This is largely bullshit but you can't provide physical evidence until you do it and he doesn't want to)
There is no evidence that a change in human industrial behaviour will have any impact on global warming, especially if it's an entirely natural phenomenon. (This is also largely bullshit because you can't test it. It also flies against basic logic that less human contribution will at the very least, not make the problem worse)
In short, Bush is playing a very political game with the entire issue. He's not being scientific, he's being political. And the wonderful thing about politics is you don't have to actually do anything until there is overwhelming and indisputable proof to that effect or you can convince everyone that there is.
America didn't change course in policy on WWII until we were personally bombed. Overwhelming proof that Japan was bad. Invasion of Iraq is a testament to the amazing ability of the propaganda to do it's work and the even more impressive apathy we now take on the whole issue. Goebels would be proud of how well this has been run from the Whitehouse.
This global warming crap is being treated in about the same manner. Scientists are banned from public communications without proper screening by the Whitehouse staff. Proposals of any changes are mired in layers of something that makes it impossible to succeed.
Nothing will get done until people individually start making an issue of it in their lives. Buy diesel engines and then buy only bio-diesel. It's not cost effective to do so but you have to make that choice of what's important. Same thing with electric cars. And so on for electrical appliances, computers, energy efficiency.
If you have a house built, push the developer into a higher efficiency than anything he's seen before or find someone who can. It's going to cost more, but it's also going to drive the money into a new area of the industry. By moving where the money goes, you will move the attentions of the american industry and american politics.
This looks interesting but it's in a really obscure language. WTF is Lua and why didn't anyone have the foresight to make this into a simpler to use module?
If this was simply written in C you could at least use it in C or port libraries to other languages
Yes. They made several billion dollars from spam related sales last year. If it can generate that much sales do you really think it will go away? Ever?
Actually, 95% is pretty aweful. If you can't get to 99% then you are selling yourself short. The tools for identification of spam are very effective these days. 95% is junk.
Even that can be spoofed. And people will complain that they can't engage the customers and that's hurting the economy.
There was a guy who proposed something called RSS-mail a few years back. It was the same guy who came up with SPF I think.
Anyways the idea was that I would send you a notification that there was an email waiting for you to pick up on my server. Similar to how RSS passes data. If I was interested in reading that message I could call upon your server to deliver the email to me and then I could read it.
The key is that now the sender has to own the email. He can't just shoot off 20 million random messages. He now has to store all of them on his server for some period of time so that you can pick them up. Cheap for you, expensive for him. It also means that he has to be honest about his RSS feed otherwise you'll never be able to pick up the email and read it. This also makes it easier to track them down.
Personally, I think spammers won't go away easily. They make a lot of money off pathetic fucktards who think they can get a bigger dick with a pill. The real damage is done by the people who purchase via spam making spam a viable marketing tool.
It all varies. I went from $20 for a T-1 to $50 for a Broadband. I would rather have the T-1. It was a static IP address and the data rate was so consistent you could set your watch by it. Broadband varies a lot and sometimes they change stuff without really mentioning it to anyone.
I'm developing the opinion that the internet should be managed like the Department of Transportation. The Government makes sure that everyone has a wire that can correctly ping the internet. After that you are on your own. Get your own email service (gmail?) and get your own portal services if you must (fark, slashdot, news.google.com, foobies.com...) But get the heck out of the way.
That how you can boost market competition. Everyone is on a minimum fixed bandwidth up/down. You pay for more if you want it. But after that everyone can scream and moan over providing services rather than connectivity.
It's not like a tube, it's like a highway. But if it were a tube... then you have government provided plumbing...
Flame me all you want. EBay sucks. There's rarely any $avings and too often you have a problem with getting ripped off or having some spastic asshole in your face.
I try really hard to avoid it. I'm at the point where I just throw it away than try to sell it. It's too much trouble dealing with the weirdos.
I'm not sure that it would be all that useful. Then again, I'm using dbmail and since it's just a database backend I can run mailboxes into the TB size.
My phone bill after the Ma Bell breakup didn't reflect this.
All my bills following the deployment of broadband intraweb thingy didn't reflect this.
In fact, all my (tech) bills are rising faster than inflation and I have only experience more dropped calls, lower data rates, and poorer (image) quality television.
They may make in investment in infrastructure, but that doesn't mean a realized benefit to the customers in every case.
Your network install has been modified to include installatin from a 100MB CD ( aka netinstall ) or a USB memory stick. Floppies are still an option except I threw my last one out
A lot of the stuff that I use every single day doesn't show up on the first CD. One of the benefits of Debian is that it has just about everything in deb packages already waiting for you to use. I find it an advantage.
And did you know that you can install Debian with only a 128MB USB memory stick or a single CD? I've never downloaded all the CD's and doubt that I ever will.
As for KDE and Gnome. I want the testing. There is nothing worse than a trashed desktop. I'm willing to pay the price of time to protect my desktop so it just works.
Look at the history of Javascript. It's not the history of a programming language. It's the history of a marketing battleground.
Programming Languages have a few key elements that Javascript lacks. For one, everyone who writes Perl, Ruby, Java, Python, even Bash expect it to have consistent behaviour where ever it might be. And for that behaviour to be well documented, reliable, and owned by the language itself.
Javascript has an evil dependency to run based on the Operating System and Browser that you are using. Mozilla on Windows works differently than Mozilla on Linux. Mozilla on anything works different than Opera or MSIE. MSIE6 works differently than MSie7. And some of these differences in javascript behaviour isn't really javascript. It's javascript trying to do CSS/DHTML stuff.
If you were to have something similar under a real programming language there would be an active development team working to resolve the differences and get consistency in the language. The finest example of this is the Java JVM. It tries to be write once run anywhere. I don't know that it actually accomplishes that -- but it's closer than javascript.
javascript has no such activities. I don't do much with Javascript but when you pull a 10 year old book off the shelf you find 1/2 of it is talking about MSIE vs Netscape in how to work around code differences. Then you get a new Javascript book and it's still talking about many of the same problems a decade later. That's a dead language lacking any real development.
AJAX is cute because Microsoft went ahead and implimented something on their own and didn't bother telling anyone about it. I'll assume that Mozilla implimented the exact same thing but under a different name because they were afraid of getting sued. Why they did it doesn't matter. The fact that they implimented the exact same thing under a different name is why Javascript must fail. It's not a real language. You won't find a language the does the exact same thing in two different commands and those two different commands only work on distinctly different machines.
If someone takes Javascript away from the companies and starts to impliment there own version of it there's no chance. Javascript needs a replacement.
That may be true but there are still a lot of people out there who are willing to write applications in other languages that can also be "stolen" from the web. I've looked at some javascript in the past that I wanted to steal and the canned libraries that are available to day.
In the long run, stealing someone else javascript is not going to be that prolific. Good thing you aren't a musician, eh?
Javascript could become a language to actually use, if it actually worked as a language and not a conglomerate of many language influences that are all fighting for the same space. Some call this software platform dependency. I call it the death of javascript.
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Seriously, it's kind of a lame question to ask. But if someone really ahs to ask...
If you want a distribution that just works and doesn't screw your installation from upgrade to upgrade then go with Debian. It doesn't a great job supporting LATEX and everything else you mentioned. And it works. It's stable.
I'm going to assume that if you are using this for your school projects and reports you would rather choose an older more stable distro over volitale latest and greatest. Debian, unlike unbuntu et al, prizes itself in their indisputable stability and consistency of performance over the notion of being the latest and greatest installation even if it fries your database or desktop environment.
This article is a flamebait.
What's the best distro for a newb? No fucking clue. Depends on what you want?
RedHat is a great installation if you want to support the vendor management model.
SuSE is great is you are a Microsoft Bitch.
Debian is very popular with people who don't mind an older installation if it's going to remain stable and working for months on end.
Unbuntu is great if you have to have the bleeding edge of every installation, even if you don't mind a little blood on your thesis projects.
Slackware is awesome if you actually want to learn what the heck is going on with Linux.
Get em all and try each one for a couple of days and see what sucks and what doesn't and then please don't bother telling us about it because we don't really care.
Linux, use whatever the heck you want.
Give this man a cigar! Lee Iococoa (sp?) and his mini-van saved Chrysler and created the SUV. He could sell the mini-van to everyone as a consumer vehicle, but it was classified as a commericial truck (like a pick-up).
The real irony is that the environmental, emissions, and crash safety of these SUV's, trucks, and vans are less than the sedan or wagon counterparts and these relatively unsafe vehicles are the one's that everyone wants to drive their babies around in. Might as well use a cattle wagon. If they really gave a crap about what they are doing, they would drive a station wagon or a sedan.
The next time you go to a car show, take a bunch of friends. See how many of them can get into a SUV, a mid-size sedan, station wagon or compact. I have a VW golf. It holds 4 people, three guitars, and a large amplifier. It's not a ride I would take for 4 hours, but it works for going from the basement to the studio and back again. Does the SUV really do that much better? How many times a year do you really need to be able to carry that fourth guitar? Then have someone else drive too.
Yes it is, but NeXTstep was worth ripping off.
And since there is no NeXTstep, why not?
Won't work. You can't beat the PAC and special interest groups.
But if you start pushing your money into a new segment of the economy then the businesses will follow your money and they will drive the PAC and Special Interest groups into the same direction. And it doesn't matter who you vote for. And it will happen very nicely.
How long did it take for the US to decide they want to invade Iraq?
How long did it take for the US to start subsidizing E85 fuel?
Guess which one was faster? E85! Why? Because ADM sells corn and ethanol. GM figured out how to make E85/Gasoline engines. And they believe they can make money and corner the market for E85 fuel.
Funny part is, E85 is a really bad idea all the way around. It's very expensive and less efficient than gasoline, diesel, or bio-diesel. But they believe they can use marketing to convince people to buy E85 even if it makes no economic or financial sense. The idea is you can believe you are saving your environment while spending 50% more money without really making a difference.
So the best thing you can do is ignore the E85 crap and see what else you can buy as a real alternative. Study the options and choose intelligently.
That's why they include WindowMaker. No START button and simple interface.
How about we only allow ascii/text and block any html?
Continue to allow attachments, but kill the embedded crap that is so evil.
There is one idea I've seen applied again and again but with limited degrees of success.
It's somewhere around Razor, RBL, and spam filtering.
RAZOR works in two modes: submitter and query. Most people do not run RAZOR as a submitter. My experience a few years back with RAZOR was that is was not very effective compared to local filters like spamassassin and bogofilter. So who wants to waste the bandwidth testing all the time?
RBL tests against a given domain. Effective but implementations vary from prissy to multi-warhead nuclear assault.
I found one RBL that I liked in concept but it was badly implimented. The idea goes like this:
If you used a ration of something like 50:1 then you would shutdown a mail domain and keep them on the RBL for a period of time ( Cumulative spam ratio or 24 hour ratio > 10:1 -- list for 12 hours. Cumulative or 24 hour ratio > 100:1 -- list for 168 hours (1 week). Cumulative ratio of 1000:1 -- list for 12 months or permanently.
I disagree with some of this and here's why:
All mail servers will not have to pay to have a CA signed SSL key resulting in millions or even billions of dollars consumed on what amounts to regulatory expenses.
I'm not sure how this is going to be much different than Received By: headers other than it now comes with an SSL key that is either made up on the fly or very expensive for the mail server to keep available (see comment one)
Why? So you can deliver spam to this address like you do postmaster today? Are you going to automate it to shutdown accounts? That's an awesome DOS tool that you are handing out to everyone in the world to use.
Dude. I'm not even going to finish with the rest of these.
Perhaps it would be more effective if we simply hunted down and executed the top spammers in the streets and made it clear that it won't be tolerated. When you have some dickhole like Alan Ralston living in Birmingham MI and articles are published in the local paper about how he is the Spam King AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT then you have a problem. A friend went by his new house he was building (bought by penis adds) and was chased down and almost driven off the road by one of his ghouls. The police disputed the video footage and implied it looked like he was driving recklessly and they might need to review his driving records...
Shoot the fuckers on the street is OK with me.
But what you propose won't do anything other than make it really expensive.
And how do you seperate the hard spam from the marketing material that every company has a right to deliver?
Almost. But I wasn't getting that message from Bush.
The line he's been pushing is, to my knowledge:
In short, Bush is playing a very political game with the entire issue. He's not being scientific, he's being political. And the wonderful thing about politics is you don't have to actually do anything until there is overwhelming and indisputable proof to that effect or you can convince everyone that there is.
America didn't change course in policy on WWII until we were personally bombed. Overwhelming proof that Japan was bad. Invasion of Iraq is a testament to the amazing ability of the propaganda to do it's work and the even more impressive apathy we now take on the whole issue. Goebels would be proud of how well this has been run from the Whitehouse.
This global warming crap is being treated in about the same manner. Scientists are banned from public communications without proper screening by the Whitehouse staff. Proposals of any changes are mired in layers of something that makes it impossible to succeed.
Nothing will get done until people individually start making an issue of it in their lives. Buy diesel engines and then buy only bio-diesel. It's not cost effective to do so but you have to make that choice of what's important. Same thing with electric cars. And so on for electrical appliances, computers, energy efficiency.
If you have a house built, push the developer into a higher efficiency than anything he's seen before or find someone who can. It's going to cost more, but it's also going to drive the money into a new area of the industry. By moving where the money goes, you will move the attentions of the american industry and american politics.
This looks interesting but it's in a really obscure language. WTF is Lua and why didn't anyone have the foresight to make this into a simpler to use module?
If this was simply written in C you could at least use it in C or port libraries to other languages
Bogofilter gets >99% of my spam.
dspam gets >99% of my spam.
What were you saying?
Yes. They made several billion dollars from spam related sales last year. If it can generate that much sales do you really think it will go away? Ever?
Actually, 95% is pretty aweful. If you can't get to 99% then you are selling yourself short. The tools for identification of spam are very effective these days. 95% is junk.
Even that can be spoofed. And people will complain that they can't engage the customers and that's hurting the economy.
There was a guy who proposed something called RSS-mail a few years back. It was the same guy who came up with SPF I think.
Anyways the idea was that I would send you a notification that there was an email waiting for you to pick up on my server. Similar to how RSS passes data. If I was interested in reading that message I could call upon your server to deliver the email to me and then I could read it.
The key is that now the sender has to own the email. He can't just shoot off 20 million random messages. He now has to store all of them on his server for some period of time so that you can pick them up. Cheap for you, expensive for him. It also means that he has to be honest about his RSS feed otherwise you'll never be able to pick up the email and read it. This also makes it easier to track them down.
Personally, I think spammers won't go away easily. They make a lot of money off pathetic fucktards who think they can get a bigger dick with a pill. The real damage is done by the people who purchase via spam making spam a viable marketing tool.
If Bush wants to regain some popularity he should consider nuking some of the spammers.
It's not going to stop. It's a multi-billion dollar industry.
It all varies. I went from $20 for a T-1 to $50 for a Broadband. I would rather have the T-1. It was a static IP address and the data rate was so consistent you could set your watch by it. Broadband varies a lot and sometimes they change stuff without really mentioning it to anyone.
I'm developing the opinion that the internet should be managed like the Department of Transportation. The Government makes sure that everyone has a wire that can correctly ping the internet. After that you are on your own. Get your own email service (gmail?) and get your own portal services if you must (fark, slashdot, news.google.com, foobies.com...) But get the heck out of the way.
That how you can boost market competition. Everyone is on a minimum fixed bandwidth up/down. You pay for more if you want it. But after that everyone can scream and moan over providing services rather than connectivity.
It's not like a tube, it's like a highway. But if it were a tube... then you have government provided plumbing...
Flame me all you want. EBay sucks. There's rarely any $avings and too often you have a problem with getting ripped off or having some spastic asshole in your face.
I try really hard to avoid it. I'm at the point where I just throw it away than try to sell it. It's too much trouble dealing with the weirdos.
I'm not sure that it would be all that useful. Then again, I'm using dbmail and since it's just a database backend I can run mailboxes into the TB size.
My phone bill after the Ma Bell breakup didn't reflect this.
All my bills following the deployment of broadband intraweb thingy didn't reflect this.
In fact, all my (tech) bills are rising faster than inflation and I have only experience more dropped calls, lower data rates, and poorer (image) quality television.
They may make in investment in infrastructure, but that doesn't mean a realized benefit to the customers in every case.
Your network install has been modified to include installatin from a 100MB CD ( aka netinstall ) or a USB memory stick. Floppies are still an option except I threw my last one out
I'll be one of the first to protest...
A lot of the stuff that I use every single day doesn't show up on the first CD. One of the benefits of Debian is that it has just about everything in deb packages already waiting for you to use. I find it an advantage.
And did you know that you can install Debian with only a 128MB USB memory stick or a single CD? I've never downloaded all the CD's and doubt that I ever will.
As for KDE and Gnome. I want the testing. There is nothing worse than a trashed desktop. I'm willing to pay the price of time to protect my desktop so it just works.
Debian *is* "It Just Works" software.
I was afraid someone would find an exception like this.
I guess we just have to stop using Windows in both cases (C and Javascript)!
Look at the history of Javascript. It's not the history of a programming language. It's the history of a marketing battleground.
Programming Languages have a few key elements that Javascript lacks. For one, everyone who writes Perl, Ruby, Java, Python, even Bash expect it to have consistent behaviour where ever it might be. And for that behaviour to be well documented, reliable, and owned by the language itself.
Javascript has an evil dependency to run based on the Operating System and Browser that you are using. Mozilla on Windows works differently than Mozilla on Linux. Mozilla on anything works different than Opera or MSIE. MSIE6 works differently than MSie7. And some of these differences in javascript behaviour isn't really javascript. It's javascript trying to do CSS/DHTML stuff.
If you were to have something similar under a real programming language there would be an active development team working to resolve the differences and get consistency in the language. The finest example of this is the Java JVM. It tries to be write once run anywhere. I don't know that it actually accomplishes that -- but it's closer than javascript.
javascript has no such activities. I don't do much with Javascript but when you pull a 10 year old book off the shelf you find 1/2 of it is talking about MSIE vs Netscape in how to work around code differences. Then you get a new Javascript book and it's still talking about many of the same problems a decade later. That's a dead language lacking any real development.
AJAX is cute because Microsoft went ahead and implimented something on their own and didn't bother telling anyone about it. I'll assume that Mozilla implimented the exact same thing but under a different name because they were afraid of getting sued. Why they did it doesn't matter. The fact that they implimented the exact same thing under a different name is why Javascript must fail. It's not a real language. You won't find a language the does the exact same thing in two different commands and those two different commands only work on distinctly different machines.
If someone takes Javascript away from the companies and starts to impliment there own version of it there's no chance. Javascript needs a replacement.
That may be true but there are still a lot of people out there who are willing to write applications in other languages that can also be "stolen" from the web. I've looked at some javascript in the past that I wanted to steal and the canned libraries that are available to day.
In the long run, stealing someone else javascript is not going to be that prolific. Good thing you aren't a musician, eh?
Javascript could become a language to actually use, if it actually worked as a language and not a conglomerate of many language influences that are all fighting for the same space. Some call this software platform dependency. I call it the death of javascript.