This would make software much more reliable and siginificantly reduce the maintence cost for users.
And no one would code for free or for fun.
So what if windows crashes, it's MS's fault, I'm not happy with it, I use linux, that goes for eveything software related, we're not forced to use it. We often have no choice to cross a bridge though, and if that "crashes", we're dead.
I'm sure the guy who wrote the software for Nana's respirator will be held accountable if it shoots out CO instead of O2.
To require certifaction and accountability is necessary when peoples lives are at risk, but if it's just because you don't want to reboot, well, I think it's pushing it.
Besides, bad software should == bad reputation, which is the case for most "aware" and computer-clueful people, the rest trust the hype and marketing team.
I'm not saying the computer illiterate are dumb, I'm just saying they shouldn't hop on the bandwagon so easily.
Anyway, I'm going off topic, but non mission (life) critical software IMHO shouldn't require 100% liability.
I agree that english should be used for the simple fact that it's more common... the reason for this I believe is its basic simplicity, let's face it, english is probably one of the easiest languages to learn.
What I don't like is people who accuse others of lack of intelligence due to the fact they don't write/speak perfect english. It's less common now, but a couple months ago every slashdot "user" was correcting everyone else's grammar and spelling and calling the person who made mistakes ignorant and what not. They didn't seem to realize that sometimes, people speak other languages and english may not be their first one.
C'est beau un monde ideal, mais on ne peut pas forcer personne a apprendre une langue, c'est meme ridicule. Du plus, ca deviendrait une barriere... Imagine etre oblige d'apprendre le chinois pour utiliser ton OS de preference!
D'apres moi, ce n'est pas offensif de "poster" en une autre langue que l'anglais, c'est juste qu'on va se faire ignorer en majorite, certains vont peut-etre se revolter, mais en bout de ligne... c'est notre choix =)
And how is windows 2000 a good example of proper developpement?
I admit, it's probably the uhm... least worst of the OSes to come out of Redmond, but they still are up to 2 service packs and it still is relatively (compared to any linux distro) unstable.
I fear you may have insulted a few penguins by comparing Bill to Linus and by comparing Linux to Windows 2000 (and giving windows 2000 the hands down advantage).
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Now I am surprised there wasn't a call to action before this. In a project of this nature, with so many people, projects, and significant economic forces putting their investments of time, money, and effort into this, you'd think that something would have been done when good patches started getting dropped. If that is the case something has to be done now.
I'm sorry, but the simple fact that economic forces are involved doesn't mandate "traditionnal" management. How long did it take before the said economic forces got involved? They were very reluctant to do so (a few years ago), and Linus probably knew it... did he care? Probably not, he did his thing and we all benefit. My point to this is that the forces _chose_ to get involved in an atypical (? The opposite of typical?) project and they have no right to impose their typical opinions.
Concerning the good patches... who is in a better place to determine if the patches are good or not? Of course the patch submitters will complain and claim their patches were thorougly tested and were "good", but I suspect it's not always black and white and many patches may have potential side effects to indirectly linked "components" (for lack of better term) of the kernel.
I don't want to come off as cold hearted or nothing, this is just a wild guess, but what if the company wasn't doing too well, they just weren't profitable anymore. Wouldn't it be a good idea to shut it down with this excuse?
This way, they come off as the good guys who got mistreated, an undeserved faith. Their customers feel sorry for them and move along, keeping their name and reputation intact.
Anyway, this is just speculation and I apologize if I'm totally off but is seems companies or corporations (the ones we hear about that is) always have "evil" intents behind everything they do.
Great point, every year, my girlfriend gets quite a bit of clothes from her father, mother and grandmother (who she sees once or twice a year).
This year she got a real nice sweater from her father, she said that it didn't look perfect on her and I told her it looked great (really... it did) and then she mentioned she might return it. I asked her why and she said that she could get a couple less expensive shirts/sweaters that would fit perfect in exchange for the one her father gave her. And I was like trying to convince her not to because it wasn't nice to return gifts, but she felt it was absolutely normal and adequate.
She also returned the turtle neck her grandmother gave her. She says she does this all the time and she also complains that her parents don't put much thought in her gifts.
I never once returned a gift and I'd be embarassed to do so, but there must be a bunch of people who don't mind since I saw a poster at the entrance of a big retail store yesterday saying "Christmas returns to the right".
Yeah, but what's annoying is that when you select "prompt" for "Run ActiveX controls and Plugins", you get an annoying popup everytime a site has any type of plugin.
A better way to counter these awful annoyances would be to put the sites running them in the "Restricted Sites" list and make sure everything is disabled for that "Zone".
If George Bush showed up at a charity event, would he get press coverage? Of course.
Does that mean that everyone showing up at charity events should get coverage or that Bush shouldn't get any? Of course not.
The importance of statements and opinions depend not only on their meaning but also on the author. I'm not saying Linus' opinions are more important than yours or mine, but his opinions regarding software developpement sure are: he deserves respect in this discipline because he earned it.
Blaise Pascal cautioned us about the difference between respect and esteem:
It is not necessary, because you are a duke, that I should esteem you; but it is necessary that I should salute you. If you are a duke and a gentleman, I shall render what I owe to both these qualities.
Linus is so strict on the patches he includes in the kernel that I doubt this would happen. I highly doubt he would include code from a totally unknown developper.
Also, what could microsoft do? It's pretty hard to prove that someone violated copyrights on some closed source code. Maybe I'm missing something but I see this as highly unlikely.
* Does not allow the use of information collected on Americans by foreign governments when that information was collected in violation of the U.S. Constitution
Ok, and the U.S. government may violate its own constitution?
Heh, on the bottom of the page displayed for telling us what browser to use, there's a copyright notice...
I'd be 100% confident that no one will steal their dumb tactics even if they didn't have the notice.
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"I personally don't mind ads at all as long as they are embedded into the page and not pop-ups or pop-behinds."
Aren't they called pop-unders?
Am I the only one to not wonser why they're not called "pop-behinds"?
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This would make software much more reliable and siginificantly reduce the maintence cost for users.
And no one would code for free or for fun.
So what if windows crashes, it's MS's fault, I'm not happy with it, I use linux, that goes for eveything software related, we're not forced to use it. We often have no choice to cross a bridge though, and if that "crashes", we're dead.
I'm sure the guy who wrote the software for Nana's respirator will be held accountable if it shoots out CO instead of O2.
To require certifaction and accountability is necessary when peoples lives are at risk, but if it's just because you don't want to reboot, well, I think it's pushing it.
Besides, bad software should == bad reputation, which is the case for most "aware" and computer-clueful people, the rest trust the hype and marketing team.
I'm not saying the computer illiterate are dumb, I'm just saying they shouldn't hop on the bandwagon so easily.
Anyway, I'm going off topic, but non mission (life) critical software IMHO shouldn't require 100% liability.
Yeah, if you read my reply correctly you'd see that it's exactly what I said =)
I agree that english should be used for the simple fact that it's more common... the reason for this I believe is its basic simplicity, let's face it, english is probably one of the easiest languages to learn.
What I don't like is people who accuse others of lack of intelligence due to the fact they don't write/speak perfect english. It's less common now, but a couple months ago every slashdot "user" was correcting everyone else's grammar and spelling and calling the person who made mistakes ignorant and what not. They didn't seem to realize that sometimes, people speak other languages and english may not be their first one.
C'est beau un monde ideal, mais on ne peut pas forcer personne a apprendre une langue, c'est meme ridicule. Du plus, ca deviendrait une barriere... Imagine etre oblige d'apprendre le chinois pour utiliser ton OS de preference!
D'apres moi, ce n'est pas offensif de "poster" en une autre langue que l'anglais, c'est juste qu'on va se faire ignorer en majorite, certains vont peut-etre se revolter, mais en bout de ligne... c'est notre choix =)
And how is windows 2000 a good example of proper developpement?
I admit, it's probably the uhm... least worst of the OSes to come out of Redmond, but they still are up to 2 service packs and it still is relatively (compared to any linux distro) unstable.
I fear you may have insulted a few penguins by comparing Bill to Linus and by comparing Linux to Windows 2000 (and giving windows 2000 the hands down advantage).
Now I am surprised there wasn't a call to action before this. In a project of this nature, with so many people, projects, and significant economic forces putting their investments of time, money, and effort into this, you'd think that something would have been done when good patches started getting dropped. If that is the case something has to be done now.
I'm sorry, but the simple fact that economic forces are involved doesn't mandate "traditionnal" management. How long did it take before the said economic forces got involved? They were very reluctant to do so (a few years ago), and Linus probably knew it... did he care? Probably not, he did his thing and we all benefit. My point to this is that the forces _chose_ to get involved in an atypical (? The opposite of typical?) project and they have no right to impose their typical opinions.
Concerning the good patches... who is in a better place to determine if the patches are good or not? Of course the patch submitters will complain and claim their patches were thorougly tested and were "good", but I suspect it's not always black and white and many patches may have potential side effects to indirectly linked "components" (for lack of better term) of the kernel.
I don't want to come off as cold hearted or nothing, this is just a wild guess, but what if the company wasn't doing too well, they just weren't profitable anymore. Wouldn't it be a good idea to shut it down with this excuse?
This way, they come off as the good guys who got mistreated, an undeserved faith. Their customers feel sorry for them and move along, keeping their name and reputation intact.
Anyway, this is just speculation and I apologize if I'm totally off but is seems companies or corporations (the ones we hear about that is) always have "evil" intents behind everything they do.
Being a women geek... do you get alot of male geek proposals?
Great point, every year, my girlfriend gets quite a bit of clothes from her father, mother and grandmother (who she sees once or twice a year).
This year she got a real nice sweater from her father, she said that it didn't look perfect on her and I told her it looked great (really... it did) and then she mentioned she might return it. I asked her why and she said that she could get a couple less expensive shirts/sweaters that would fit perfect in exchange for the one her father gave her. And I was like trying to convince her not to because it wasn't nice to return gifts, but she felt it was absolutely normal and adequate.
She also returned the turtle neck her grandmother gave her. She says she does this all the time and she also complains that her parents don't put much thought in her gifts.
I never once returned a gift and I'd be embarassed to do so, but there must be a bunch of people who don't mind since I saw a poster at the entrance of a big retail store yesterday saying "Christmas returns to the right".
Yeah, but what's annoying is that when you select "prompt" for "Run ActiveX controls and Plugins", you get an annoying popup everytime a site has any type of plugin.
A better way to counter these awful annoyances would be to put the sites running them in the "Restricted Sites" list and make sure everything is disabled for that "Zone".
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Soon Intel may be AMD's competition... I'm not biased towards either, but AMD has gained alot of ground in a pretty short period of time.
If George Bush showed up at a charity event, would he get press coverage? Of course.
Does that mean that everyone showing up at charity events should get coverage or that Bush shouldn't get any? Of course not.
The importance of statements and opinions depend not only on their meaning but also on the author. I'm not saying Linus' opinions are more important than yours or mine, but his opinions regarding software developpement sure are: he deserves respect in this discipline because he earned it.
Blaise Pascal cautioned us about the difference between respect and esteem:
It is not necessary, because you are a duke, that I should esteem you; but it is necessary that I should salute you. If you are a duke and a gentleman, I shall render what I owe to both these qualities.
Linus commands respect and esteem in my opinion.
Hmm... now that's a deal!
Linus is so strict on the patches he includes in the kernel that I doubt this would happen. I highly doubt he would include code from a totally unknown developper.
Also, what could microsoft do? It's pretty hard to prove that someone violated copyrights on some closed source code. Maybe I'm missing something but I see this as highly unlikely.
* Does not allow the use of information collected on Americans by foreign governments when that information was collected in violation of the U.S. Constitution
Ok, and the U.S. government may violate its own constitution?
Heh, on the bottom of the page displayed for telling us what browser to use, there's a copyright notice...
I'd be 100% confident that no one will steal their dumb tactics even if they didn't have the notice.
"I personally don't mind ads at all as long as they are embedded into the page and not pop-ups or pop-behinds. " Aren't they called pop-unders? Am I the only one to not wonser why they're not called "pop-behinds"?