If they did it today, MS could kill Apple by suspending development of MS Office for the Mac. When Apple has a complete suite of business apps, then it's a different story.
Oops, hit the button too soon. I would prohibit involuntary transfers of wealth from one party to another, such as pouring tax money on the ethanol scammers or seizing people's homes to build an Ikea store.
Sure, there's also corporate welfare, but I consider that just one more example of government interfering with the economy. It's intrinsically dangerous to give a government power to take money from you and me (or from businesses), and give it to Archer Daniels Midland (price fixer to the world). The solution I would propose is to prohibit transfers of wealth from one party to another.
Our taxes are supposed to pay for the cost of maintaing public order and national defense. This business of greasing a congressman to get a contract to build a bridge to nowhere is not what we signed up for.
Yeah, I know I can make an antennna out of a pringles can. Now, don't you think someone might find it suspicious if I hang around the passport control area of the airport, and point it at the desks?
Another poster pointed out that there are far easier ways to phish someone's ID info.
It's nostalgia as far as I'm concerned, because I've moved on from OpenStep to Mac OS X. For Linux though, GNUStep is still the best chance it has for a decent GUI and OO development framework, so it's import if Linux is going to move beyond the server room and embedded apps to any significant degree.
No, Canon invested $100M initially, and another $30M later. Jobs put in about $10M of his own, and Perot was in for $20M. Apple bought them for $400M. That's not exactly a shabby ROI.
Don't forget in-house custom app development. The easier it is to develop an app for a given platform, the better chance that platform has of being chosen. My company is a Mac shop, but if there was a 80+% Cocoa library available for Linux, we might very well choose Linux for certain vertical-market deployments. As it is, the GNUStep foundation makes Linux a possibility for our non-GUI apps (data acquisition, etc.)
it was taken over largely so Apple could get hold of its charasmatic leader.
Actually, your statement above is rewriting history. Gil Amelio, following the recommendation of Ellen Hancock, made the call to take NeXT instead of Be, and he sure didn't do it to replace himself as CEO. Ed Woolard begged SJ to take the CEO position, after the board had decided to buy out Gil's contract and let him go.
So if GNUStep is just an Open Source version of something that is obsolete, why care at all?
Well, if you care whether Linux is going to make a dent in Microsoft's market share, you should care very much about GNUStep. For my part, I'll just keep using the Mac, so GNUStep is mostly a matter of nostalgia.
He says that he thinks KDE and Gnome are "amateurish" but doesn't bother to explain his reasoning behind the assertion.
If you had ever used NeXTSTEP, you would know what he means. It's one of those things that's hard to explain to someone who doesn't have the experience to tell the difference.
Well, retail's an entry-level job, but you are appreciated by shareholders like me. Also, I've seen quite a few people join Apple in retail and move up to running a store, or working in Cupertino within a year and a half of joining the company. I've also seen Mac Geniuses become field engineers. Hang in there, and keep scanning for openings. You'll move up soon enough.
Well, the iPod sells like crazy, because it works very well as a music player. This lesson is not lost on Apple: notice how they've been very careful not to add a feature just because they can, and when they add something like games, they don't clutter the UI. It's the same number of clicks to get to a song on an iPod today as it was on the first ones they shipped.
If Apple brings out a phone, one thing you can count on is that they will have really studied what's good and bad about the existing products. It will be very, very easy to look up a number in your address book and dial it, to record your voice mail messages, to capture and save a number from an incoming call, to set your ring tones, etc.
At one time Enron was huge, too, but their arrogance and questionable antics lead to their downfall and execs beinc charged and convicted.. The same can happen to MS and their goon hierachy as well.
If there's the politcal will to carry about another extrememely expensive round of litigaton, perhaps. I don't see that happening in the next decade, personally.
The worst case I ever saw in person was at an assisted living facility. Their pull chains (that the residents pull when they are in trouble) was being monitored by a PC running Windows 95 (this was in 2006).
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Do you see a spreadsheet in iWork? Neither do I.
-jcr
if MS killed off Office for the Mac, it wouldn't make a lot of difference.
Don't bet on it. I wish that were the case, but it's not.
-jcr
If they did it today, MS could kill Apple by suspending development of MS Office for the Mac. When Apple has a complete suite of business apps, then it's a different story.
-jcr
Oops, hit the button too soon. I would prohibit involuntary transfers of wealth from one party to another, such as pouring tax money on the ethanol scammers or seizing people's homes to build an Ikea store.
-jcr
Sure, there's also corporate welfare, but I consider that just one more example of government interfering with the economy. It's intrinsically dangerous to give a government power to take money from you and me (or from businesses), and give it to Archer Daniels Midland (price fixer to the world). The solution I would propose is to prohibit transfers of wealth from one party to another.
Our taxes are supposed to pay for the cost of maintaing public order and national defense. This business of greasing a congressman to get a contract to build a bridge to nowhere is not what we signed up for.
-jcr
Yeah, I know I can make an antennna out of a pringles can. Now, don't you think someone might find it suspicious if I hang around the passport control area of the airport, and point it at the desks?
Another poster pointed out that there are far easier ways to phish someone's ID info.
-jcr
Well, if you're bound and determined to beat yourself up over things like that, you'd probably better just freeze in the dark.
-jcr
Most places in the world can be quite nice, as long as you have sufficient funds. ;-)
I hated New York city the first time I lived there, and liked it quite a bit the second time.
-jcr
First time I see spam on my mobile phone, I will drop that vendor like a bad habit.
-jcr
It's nostalgia as far as I'm concerned, because I've moved on from OpenStep to Mac OS X. For Linux though, GNUStep is still the best chance it has for a decent GUI and OO development framework, so it's import if Linux is going to move beyond the server room and embedded apps to any significant degree.
-jcr
No, Canon invested $100M initially, and another $30M later. Jobs put in about $10M of his own, and Perot was in for $20M. Apple bought them for $400M. That's not exactly a shabby ROI.
-jcr
All someone'll have to do is set up a high-gain antenna somewhere in the area,
No chance of that arousing suspicion, since people routinely carry high-gain antennas around airports, right?
-jcr
Don't forget in-house custom app development. The easier it is to develop an app for a given platform, the better chance that platform has of being chosen. My company is a Mac shop, but if there was a 80+% Cocoa library available for Linux, we might very well choose Linux for certain vertical-market deployments. As it is, the GNUStep foundation makes Linux a possibility for our non-GUI apps (data acquisition, etc.)
-jcr
speaking down to us
WTF are you talking about?
-jcr
it was taken over largely so Apple could get hold of its charasmatic leader.
Actually, your statement above is rewriting history. Gil Amelio, following the recommendation of Ellen Hancock, made the call to take NeXT instead of Be, and he sure didn't do it to replace himself as CEO. Ed Woolard begged SJ to take the CEO position, after the board had decided to buy out Gil's contract and let him go.
-jcr
I was never a NeXT employee, I was a NeXT customer. As for your claim that I'm "rewriting history", please point out any factual error I have made.
-jcr
NeXT was bought out for $400 million. How can I make my business a "failure" like that?
-jcr
So if GNUStep is just an Open Source version of something that is obsolete, why care at all?
Well, if you care whether Linux is going to make a dent in Microsoft's market share, you should care very much about GNUStep. For my part, I'll just keep using the Mac, so GNUStep is mostly a matter of nostalgia.
-jcr
He says that he thinks KDE and Gnome are "amateurish" but doesn't bother to explain his reasoning behind the assertion.
If you had ever used NeXTSTEP, you would know what he means. It's one of those things that's hard to explain to someone who doesn't have the experience to tell the difference.
-jcr
Well, retail's an entry-level job, but you are appreciated by shareholders like me. Also, I've seen quite a few people join Apple in retail and move up to running a store, or working in Cupertino within a year and a half of joining the company. I've also seen Mac Geniuses become field engineers. Hang in there, and keep scanning for openings. You'll move up soon enough.
-jcr
But if it works well AS A PHONE, it gets my vote.
Well, the iPod sells like crazy, because it works very well as a music player. This lesson is not lost on Apple: notice how they've been very careful not to add a feature just because they can, and when they add something like games, they don't clutter the UI. It's the same number of clicks to get to a song on an iPod today as it was on the first ones they shipped.
If Apple brings out a phone, one thing you can count on is that they will have really studied what's good and bad about the existing products. It will be very, very easy to look up a number in your address book and dial it, to record your voice mail messages, to capture and save a number from an incoming call, to set your ring tones, etc.
-jcr
But the way corporations get money is by spending money to get the power to do what they want.
Nope. Corporations get money by offering products that others choose to buy.
-jcr
At one time Enron was huge, too, but their arrogance and questionable antics lead to their downfall and execs beinc charged and convicted.. The same can happen to MS and their goon hierachy as well.
If there's the politcal will to carry about another extrememely expensive round of litigaton, perhaps. I don't see that happening in the next decade, personally.
-jcr
The worst case I ever saw in person was at an assisted living facility. Their pull chains (that the residents pull when they are in trouble) was being monitored by a PC running Windows 95 (this was in 2006).
Wow.. That's a negligence suit waiting to happen.
-jcr
American capital seeks the continuation of power
Nope, capital (American or otherwise) seeks profit. Power is the fetish of the pinkos, not the businessman.
-jcr