I'm using Firefox Mobile on my Nokia N800 right now, and it's very responsive.
I guess they removed XUL, then...
Regardless, Opera is faster than Firefox and uses less memory. It was tempting for Nokia to use Mozilla because it's free of charge, but you pay a price: Performance. They were apparently willing to pay that price.
Then Microsoft is tying a package manager to the OS, using its monopoly power to prevent competitors from doing the same.
Not necessarily. Read Opera's complaint. Bundling something doesn't automatically make it evil. It is bundling combined with other things like lock-in, etc. that causes problems.
Read one of the many blog posts on the subject. If you haven't educated yourself by now, I doubt that you ever will. Hovewer, this site gives you a nice overview.
The new switch is a fucking META tag you stupid asshat. Microsoft is using META tags for what they were initially designed to do, add META data to a fucking page. This approach allows existing sites to render as they currently do and new sites can be completely standards compliant.
Except IE8 will default to not being standards compliant.
But I guess dipshits like you think Microsoft should be regulated by Government to do everything in their power to destroy themselves by harming existing customers.
I guess people like you think there should be no rules what so ever? No regulation of food companies? Drug companies? Nothing? Complete anarchy?
I've been using FF since before it was renamed. Even then, I didn't hit sites that required IE.
Good for you. Not everyone is so lucky. It should be pointed out, however, that Firefox got a lot of compatibility for free because most webmasters knew about Netscape, so they took the new Netscape with Gecko into account when designing sites. Firefox used Gecko too, so it benefitted from Netscape's fame in webmaster circles.
The compaint is that Opera can't compete because IE comes bundled and people won't download another browser.
Nope. People can download other browsers, but in reality many sites still require IE because of Microsoft's transgressions.
FF proves beyond a doubt this is not so, and that IE's OS monopoly isn't keeping other browsers down.
It is. Firefox has 15% globally. Are you really saying that Firefox would have a mere 15% globally if there was actual competition in the browser market?
It's too bad their stats are useless since they exclude several European countries... Looks like their stats are only valid for sites that use their tracking beacons, and they refuse to let us know who that is... Could be that they only do tech sites, which would boost Firefox a lot compared to the real usage.
In the mobile market, Safari is killing the competition by being bundled with the iPhone.
Windows Mobile is tiny compared to Symbian. Nokia's own browser and even Opera Mini have more users than Safari on iPhone.
It's funny that your article quotes Net Applications, since these people first showed Opera Mini completely dominating all other mobile browsers, but then they changed their stats completely overnight. No notification, no nothing. Everything just changed. That's how reliable Net Application is...
When Mozilla 2 comes out, "Mobile Firefox" will compete in the mobile market, too.
Except it won't really compete since it will be slower than all other mobile browsers. It will require an extremely high-end phone, and even then you are better off installing Opera, Netfront or Skyfire.
I guess users will go out of their way to download other browsers, after all. That undermines Opera's case. Oops!
Not really, since lots of sites still require IE. Also, the UA switching thing for IE8 shows that Microsoft continues to undermine open standards, which was part of Opera's complaint. How silly of Microsoft to do that even after the complaint was made public.
Actually, MS does and can leverage its OS monopoly. It has done so for many years, to the detriment of other browsers. To this day, many sites still require IE. Opera's complaint does not fall apart since it can be shown that Microsoft has indeed been involved in anti-competitive practices, and the recent IE8 standards switch just proves this point.
Opera does want to support it. It's Microsoft which needs to get their asses in gear. And they talked to Microsoft long before the antitrust complaint, so this just shows how MS is dragging their feet.
I think Opera's problem is they just aren't making it like FF and IE are...
Opera is making it in markets with actual competition (mobiles/devices). Despite Firefox being funded by many huge corporations, IE still has more than 80% market share globally. Making it? Are you saying that IE would have had 80% market share if there was actual competition as well?
And it does say something that Opera doesn't seem to be coming close to Firefox.
Not really. Firefox gets free money from the likes of Google, Sun and IBM. Heck, Google pays people to get other people to download Firefox. Opera is the only truly independent browser. Firefox would have been nowhere without the bottomless pit that is Google's wallet.
Given Opera's recent behavior in the HTML 4/5 situation I don't think that they are in a position to criticze others for not following new standards proposals.
Bullshit. You apparently think that Opera is the only one involved in HTML5, which is false. Mozilla and Apple are heavily involved as well. The editor works for Google. Get your facts straight.
But anyone who goes crying to Congress or the EU is a much bigger problem than any industry player in my view.
Not when this "anyone" is known to put real money into open standards.
I understand Opera being upset. But I don't see where they can complain anymore.
They can complain that Microsoft prevents competition, which they do.
They should focus their efforts on bundling their browser with hardware, like the Wii, and cell phones. Does doing so make their position hypocritical?
No, because neither Nintendo nor Opera are monopolists.
When you download something, the person you downloaded from will often or usually be able to tell that you did. You are right, in the case of "Save as" for pictures on a web page this is more difficult, but a site doesn't necessarily embed the full-size pictures in the page itself. I don't know about child porn, but most mainstream porn sites use thumbnails that link to the full thing.
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Regardless, Opera is faster than Firefox and uses less memory. It was tempting for Nokia to use Mozilla because it's free of charge, but you pay a price: Performance. They were apparently willing to pay that price.
This is a well known problem. Firefox eats up memory like there's no tomorrow (compared to Opera).
Unfortunately, Mozilla for Nokia's tablet is slower than Opera.
It's too bad their stats are useless since they exclude several European countries... Looks like their stats are only valid for sites that use their tracking beacons, and they refuse to let us know who that is... Could be that they only do tech sites, which would boost Firefox a lot compared to the real usage.
It's funny that your article quotes Net Applications, since these people first showed Opera Mini completely dominating all other mobile browsers, but then they changed their stats completely overnight. No notification, no nothing. Everything just changed. That's how reliable Net Application is...
Except it won't really compete since it will be slower than all other mobile browsers. It will require an extremely high-end phone, and even then you are better off installing Opera, Netfront or Skyfire.That they can download alternatives doesn't mean that you can use them everywhere. Lots of sites still require IE.
It helps because all browsers would be (more) standards compliant. It would be cheaper to create sites for standards rather than for each browser.
Does Debian require a browser to use its package manager? Or Ubuntu?
Not really, since lots of sites still require IE. Also, the UA switching thing for IE8 shows that Microsoft continues to undermine open standards, which was part of Opera's complaint. How silly of Microsoft to do that even after the complaint was made public.
Actually, MS does and can leverage its OS monopoly. It has done so for many years, to the detriment of other browsers. To this day, many sites still require IE. Opera's complaint does not fall apart since it can be shown that Microsoft has indeed been involved in anti-competitive practices, and the recent IE8 standards switch just proves this point.
You are still describing a situation without competition, and a situation where market share isn't determined by quality.
Except you are talking about a situation without actual competition...
Opera isn't suing anyone. They have logged a complaint with EU for anti-competitive practices (monopoly, lack of standards compliance).
When you download something, the person you downloaded from will often or usually be able to tell that you did. You are right, in the case of "Save as" for pictures on a web page this is more difficult, but a site doesn't necessarily embed the full-size pictures in the page itself. I don't know about child porn, but most mainstream porn sites use thumbnails that link to the full thing.