Re:Wasting bandwidth - execute our GNU rights!
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I don't get it. Is Linus or the entire kernel mailing list telling people on Slashdot to slashdot SCO? Or any serious Linux organization/company? Red Hat? SuSE? Mandrake?
Come on, explain this to me, Oh Wise AC!
Does every single Linux user out there represent the Linux/open-source ideology?
Purdy-boy McBride has overdone it now. There used to be a slim chance of IBM buying up SCO, just like SCO wants, but now IBM will just refuse to buy SCO out of sheer spite...
Oh SCO, SCO
you are going the way of the poo poo
Down the loo loo
Re:Wasting bandwidth - execute our GNU rights!
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Yes, because we all know that Microsoft are responsible for all the Windows users out there who do abuse. Are Linux terrorists and hippies worse than Windows terrorists and hippies? I don't get it.
Well I know I blame Microsoft every time some kid with a new mIRC script tries to flood me on IRC. These script kiddies are using Windows you know! Surely, that must mean that they represent Microsoft.
Yes we need this amount of press time because we want to learn about the latest developments. We want to stay informed, and as long as Slashdot keeps us informed, we are happy. If you don't want to read it, fine, but please don't litter SCO stories with nonsense like this. I mean, if you don't want to read about it, why are you posting in this thread anyway?
I was not aware of this. However, in the past, was that when JK (RIP) was still working for free, and before PKWare was founded? If so, the situation is different today.
I still smell foul play. First, PKWare did not release the specs, and when they did claim to have released them they were incomplete? What's up with that?
You have my "Slashdot identity", so you can look at my posting history to see what kind of answers I have submitted in the past. In your case, we could have a look to see if you had a history of spreading lies and misinformation and being a useful fool for the megacorporations. Or even representing one of them.
But you are an AC, too afraid to show people your posting history. Maybe you don't even have an account, but have some kind of connection with RIAA and are just around to stir up shit?
Your claims have no substance unless you have the guts to post under your real Slashdot username. Until you do, you are just an AC who is afraid to stand behind his words, probably because you know that you are completely off with your attacks.
You are the one who's got absolutely nothing to say. You know you've lost the argument long ago but you continue to harp on it. Give up and admit defeat willya.
This is a long post, but you just had to challenge me, didn't you?:)
I'll try to briefly sum this up, but don't you dare to reply without reading the rest:
MSIE is a terrible browser because it is filled with security holes, it is bloated, and the user interface is so basic it slows down your surfing compared to other browsers. It is also a bitch to code web pages for, and pretends to know better than the web author what is supposed to be done.
As for foul business practices, open your eyes! Microsoft is well known for the way they reach into new markets and eliminate the competition. They even backstab their own partners if needed.
Read on for a more thorough explanation:
"What, exactly, is so bad about IE, other than the fact that it's not open source and you can't hack away at it to your heart's content?"
I am a Windows user, and I couldn't care less about "hacking away" at the source code. What is so bad about IE is that it is has an incredible amount of serious security holes, many of which are still not patched, and when they are patched, you will often find that things like certain JavaScript sites stop working properly. This is probably because of the severe code bloat MSIE suffers from. It is huge!
And before you give me the "but MSIE is used by a lot more people than other browsers" argument to justify Microsoft's incompetence when it comes to handling security, let me remind you that:
Most of the people using MSIE are using it because they are clueless and don't know better. More users does not automatically mean that more users are looking for (and discovering) security holes.
Apache, the open-source web server, is the most widely used web server, and is run on more than twice the number of sites IIS, Microsoft's offering, according to Netcraft. Despite this, IIS has had far more and far more serious security holes than Apache.
Think about that for a minute before you choose to respond (or not).
MSIE is also terrible to code for. It tries to guess what I am trying to do, and often it guesses wrong. If you have ever tried to write server-side scripts that, say, are to do something else with a file than MSIE wants to do, you will know that it can be a pain to work around MSIE's "I know better than you what you are trying to do".
Moving on quickly, the user interface is terrible. It is so basic it is unusable. It slows down a lot if you open a lot of windows, and I regularly have 20-30 browser windows open. Not only that, but it clutters the Windows task bar with these windows. With other browsers, I can keep everything within the main browser window. MSIE also is a heaven for spammers with their neverending loops of popup windows. To conclude: MSIE's user interface is unusable. It is too basic and it slows down my browsing tenfold. I can't use mouse gestures, keyboard shortcuts, can't block popups, and so on. No doubt, you will point out that there are addon shells for MSIE. Great. Use them if you want to. But my point still stands: Most people will never even know about these, or about alternative browsers. But this isn't just about the user interface. The very core of the browser is severely flawed, from the ground up.
And it has terrible support for standards compared to Opera and Mozilla. It can't even get basic CSS positioning right.
Do I have to go on?
"It's what most web pages were designed to be viewed under, it's perfectly stable (er... recent versions, anyway), and (above all) it's fast and unbloated."
Excuse me? MSIE is terribly slow when I try to use it, simply because it has a terrible way to handle multiple windows and other basic user interface features that already exist in better browsers.
As for "unbloated" - you must be kidding me. For one, most of MSIE is buried in the operating
And now PKWare tries to get rid of the competition by refusing to give out the specs for a format which has always been open. Great. That's exactly the kind of thing Microsoft would be doing.
I doubt people care who "invented" it. Zip is an open format, but PKWare is trying to close it to stiffle competition. The result is that they will be buried by the market leader, WinZip.
PKWare deserves to go out of business over this. If they managed to stay in business even with WinZip dominating the market, what could they possibly lose by publishing the specs and behaving in a decent manner?
So anyone suggesting that integrating more and more types of software into the OS bloats the OS and runs people out of business, are just bashing Microsoft? They may not even have a point?
Where is the "bashing"? I see a perfectly valid concern that Microsoft is biting over more and more, and more and more companies that used to create quality software may find themselves out of business because Microsoft starts offering the same, only integrated into the system. If only programs like MSIE were actually good, but MSIE is the worst browser out there today. But still, making a living from a browser is not easy since one already comes with Windows, and even though it sucks, people don't know that they can get better browsers by looking around a bit.
IIRC, the way the DOS virus "scanner" worked was that it added some information to every single exe file, and when you ran a scan, it looked for changes, and any changes mean "virus alert" to the "scanner"...
You tried to answer a simple question, why it is criminal to offer porn to minors. But you answered it by saying that "dirty old men offering porn to kids is bad, m'kay". Yeah, he already knew that it was criminal to give porn to minors, but he asked why. What does this have to do with dirty old men outside a candy store?
Sorry, but who cares about who invented zip in this situation? Maybe if the company which is supposed to carry on the legazy of Phil Katz conducted itself in a proper manner, I might have felt bad about the fact that WinZip will now bury PKWare firmly and dance on its grave. But the fact is that PKWare refused to give out the specifications, so WinZip had to do it its own way.
PKWare is not the creator of zip. Phil Katz is, but he is dead, and PKWare today is a disgrace to his memory.
If WordPerfect was more popular than MS Office and Microsoft changed the (open) doc format without giving out information to others, Microsoft would be committing commercial suicide, and it would have been a good thing. Companies that do stupid things like this deserve to go out of business, or in the very least be taught a sound lesson about how one does not behave.
So, are we supposed to side with a suicidal company just because its product is not very popular? Come on.
If PKWare tries to pull off something like this when it is as insignificant as it is now, imagine what it would do if it was in Microsoft's position!
Sorry to break it to you buddy, but PKWare most certainly is not one of the big guys. It sounds more like it is a SCO-like company which does its best to destroy itself. Go figure.
What are you trying to say? That WinZip is a sub-par zip file handler with a decent UI?
The point here is that PKWare is apparently playing dirty, thereby forcing WinZip to make their own version. If WinZip already owns the Windows zip "market", PKWare is digging its own grave.
Really? Ok, WinZip, current program everyone uses for zip files is up against an insignificant company no one these days has even heard of or knows exists. Who wins? My money's on WinZip.
Sure, PKWare may well have done good things in the past, but they are insignificant today. It's like OpenOffice.org refusing to read MSWord files in an attempt to force Microsoft Office out of the market. Hey, good luck, but if you are that stupid, maybe you deserve going out of business.
And if PKWare did indeed refuse to give out details to WinZip, then good riddance. These guys deserve to lose. They are a disgrace to Phil Katz' memory.
I doubt it will be made into "the perfect solution". But I hate it that Windows XP even tries to handle zip files. Leave them alone! Frequently, I find it doing all the wrong things. WinZip does what I tell it to do, where as Windows XP does not.
I think the point is that "everyone" uses WinZip anyway, and no one uses PKWare. Maybe my friends and I are just odd, but I use WinZip, and everyone I know uses WinZip for zip files.
If WinZip is the de facto standard in the Windows world when it comes to handling zip files, they have everything to gain, and it's goodbye PKWare.
The point is that your little story was completely misplaced and seemed to be more about stereotyping old men who drool over children rather than dealing with the pornography issue. You made it sound like the porn was bad because it was offered to them by a dirty old man. Or you tried to use the dirty old man to demonize porn. Or porn to demonize the old man. Bottom line is: What were you trying to say?
Are you worried about the pornography or the dirty man? Would it be better if he offered them candy instead? Maybe he would rape the children, but THANK GOD, at least they didn't see pornographic images... Is that what you are saying?
If this is not what you are saying, then you must basically be saying that "porn is criminal because you shouldn't offer porn to small children. But that still doesn't answer the question. It is a circular argument.
Offering porn to minors might be criminal, but you certainly did not explain why. You are just using fear mongering and stereotypes to promote your view, rather than bringing forth useful facts that answer the question.
You are right about nudity not (necessarily) being pornography, though, so the grandparent post was rather misleading and narrow-minded as well.
How is he involved in the current mess? I tried to search for info about it, but I could only find Noorda as being in Caldera, not in SCO (or after Caldera became SCO).
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Come on, explain this to me, Oh Wise AC!
Does every single Linux user out there represent the Linux/open-source ideology?
Oh SCO, SCO
you are going the way of the poo poo
Down the loo loo
Yes, because we all know that Microsoft are responsible for all the Windows users out there who do abuse. Are Linux terrorists and hippies worse than Windows terrorists and hippies? I don't get it.
I'm still asking questions because you are unable to give any answers, and use circular logic to try to prove a point which, it seems, does not exist.
Well I know I blame Microsoft every time some kid with a new mIRC script tries to flood me on IRC. These script kiddies are using Windows you know! Surely, that must mean that they represent Microsoft.
Yes we need this amount of press time because we want to learn about the latest developments. We want to stay informed, and as long as Slashdot keeps us informed, we are happy. If you don't want to read it, fine, but please don't litter SCO stories with nonsense like this. I mean, if you don't want to read about it, why are you posting in this thread anyway?
I still smell foul play. First, PKWare did not release the specs, and when they did claim to have released them they were incomplete? What's up with that?
But you are an AC, too afraid to show people your posting history. Maybe you don't even have an account, but have some kind of connection with RIAA and are just around to stir up shit?
Your claims have no substance unless you have the guts to post under your real Slashdot username. Until you do, you are just an AC who is afraid to stand behind his words, probably because you know that you are completely off with your attacks.
You are the one who's got absolutely nothing to say. You know you've lost the argument long ago but you continue to harp on it. Give up and admit defeat willya.
I'll try to briefly sum this up, but don't you dare to reply without reading the rest:
MSIE is a terrible browser because it is filled with security holes, it is bloated, and the user interface is so basic it slows down your surfing compared to other browsers. It is also a bitch to code web pages for, and pretends to know better than the web author what is supposed to be done.
As for foul business practices, open your eyes! Microsoft is well known for the way they reach into new markets and eliminate the competition. They even backstab their own partners if needed.
Read on for a more thorough explanation:
I am a Windows user, and I couldn't care less about "hacking away" at the source code. What is so bad about IE is that it is has an incredible amount of serious security holes, many of which are still not patched, and when they are patched, you will often find that things like certain JavaScript sites stop working properly. This is probably because of the severe code bloat MSIE suffers from. It is huge!
And before you give me the "but MSIE is used by a lot more people than other browsers" argument to justify Microsoft's incompetence when it comes to handling security, let me remind you that:
Think about that for a minute before you choose to respond (or not).
MSIE is also terrible to code for. It tries to guess what I am trying to do, and often it guesses wrong. If you have ever tried to write server-side scripts that, say, are to do something else with a file than MSIE wants to do, you will know that it can be a pain to work around MSIE's "I know better than you what you are trying to do".
Moving on quickly, the user interface is terrible. It is so basic it is unusable. It slows down a lot if you open a lot of windows, and I regularly have 20-30 browser windows open. Not only that, but it clutters the Windows task bar with these windows. With other browsers, I can keep everything within the main browser window. MSIE also is a heaven for spammers with their neverending loops of popup windows. To conclude: MSIE's user interface is unusable. It is too basic and it slows down my browsing tenfold. I can't use mouse gestures, keyboard shortcuts, can't block popups, and so on. No doubt, you will point out that there are addon shells for MSIE. Great. Use them if you want to. But my point still stands: Most people will never even know about these, or about alternative browsers. But this isn't just about the user interface. The very core of the browser is severely flawed, from the ground up.
And it has terrible support for standards compared to Opera and Mozilla. It can't even get basic CSS positioning right.
Do I have to go on?
Excuse me? MSIE is terribly slow when I try to use it, simply because it has a terrible way to handle multiple windows and other basic user interface features that already exist in better browsers.
As for "unbloated" - you must be kidding me. For one, most of MSIE is buried in the operating
And now PKWare tries to get rid of the competition by refusing to give out the specs for a format which has always been open. Great. That's exactly the kind of thing Microsoft would be doing.
PKWare deserves to go out of business over this. If they managed to stay in business even with WinZip dominating the market, what could they possibly lose by publishing the specs and behaving in a decent manner?
Where is the "bashing"? I see a perfectly valid concern that Microsoft is biting over more and more, and more and more companies that used to create quality software may find themselves out of business because Microsoft starts offering the same, only integrated into the system. If only programs like MSIE were actually good, but MSIE is the worst browser out there today. But still, making a living from a browser is not easy since one already comes with Windows, and even though it sucks, people don't know that they can get better browsers by looking around a bit.
IIRC, the way the DOS virus "scanner" worked was that it added some information to every single exe file, and when you ran a scan, it looked for changes, and any changes mean "virus alert" to the "scanner"...
You tried to answer a simple question, why it is criminal to offer porn to minors. But you answered it by saying that "dirty old men offering porn to kids is bad, m'kay". Yeah, he already knew that it was criminal to give porn to minors, but he asked why. What does this have to do with dirty old men outside a candy store?
PKWare is not the creator of zip. Phil Katz is, but he is dead, and PKWare today is a disgrace to his memory.
If WordPerfect was more popular than MS Office and Microsoft changed the (open) doc format without giving out information to others, Microsoft would be committing commercial suicide, and it would have been a good thing. Companies that do stupid things like this deserve to go out of business, or in the very least be taught a sound lesson about how one does not behave.
So, are we supposed to side with a suicidal company just because its product is not very popular? Come on.
If PKWare tries to pull off something like this when it is as insignificant as it is now, imagine what it would do if it was in Microsoft's position!
You, confused AC, are barking up the wrong tree.
Sorry to break it to you buddy, but PKWare most certainly is not one of the big guys. It sounds more like it is a SCO-like company which does its best to destroy itself. Go figure.
The point here is that PKWare is apparently playing dirty, thereby forcing WinZip to make their own version. If WinZip already owns the Windows zip "market", PKWare is digging its own grave.
And good riddance, I say.
Don't worry. WinZip with its dominance will bury PKWare and PKWare's format will disappear.
Sure, PKWare may well have done good things in the past, but they are insignificant today. It's like OpenOffice.org refusing to read MSWord files in an attempt to force Microsoft Office out of the market. Hey, good luck, but if you are that stupid, maybe you deserve going out of business.
And if PKWare did indeed refuse to give out details to WinZip, then good riddance. These guys deserve to lose. They are a disgrace to Phil Katz' memory.
I doubt it will be made into "the perfect solution". But I hate it that Windows XP even tries to handle zip files. Leave them alone! Frequently, I find it doing all the wrong things. WinZip does what I tell it to do, where as Windows XP does not.
If WinZip is the de facto standard in the Windows world when it comes to handling zip files, they have everything to gain, and it's goodbye PKWare.
The point is that your little story was completely misplaced and seemed to be more about stereotyping old men who drool over children rather than dealing with the pornography issue. You made it sound like the porn was bad because it was offered to them by a dirty old man. Or you tried to use the dirty old man to demonize porn. Or porn to demonize the old man. Bottom line is: What were you trying to say?
If this is not what you are saying, then you must basically be saying that "porn is criminal because you shouldn't offer porn to small children. But that still doesn't answer the question. It is a circular argument.
Offering porn to minors might be criminal, but you certainly did not explain why. You are just using fear mongering and stereotypes to promote your view, rather than bringing forth useful facts that answer the question.
You are right about nudity not (necessarily) being pornography, though, so the grandparent post was rather misleading and narrow-minded as well.
How is he involved in the current mess? I tried to search for info about it, but I could only find Noorda as being in Caldera, not in SCO (or after Caldera became SCO).