While it's great that Linux has excellent multithreading support
Actually, I believe the point is that Linux will have excellent thread support. In other words when 2.6/3.0 is stable enough for production use (2008?:) )
which IMHO is like calling Windows "Operating System"
Heh, Windows is called Windows, as in "Windowing System" - not much better than "Operating System" if you ask me.
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It in fact is Postgres-Q-L and My-S-Q-L, but you use "sequel" to query both of those. I haven't seen anyone in a long time pronounce the language name S-Q-L, the names of the two products you mentioned are dictated by their respective developers, so it's a different matter. (incidentally, I'm as far from a Microsofty as it gets)
Why are you so upset about BEOWULF CLUSTERS? Have you had some bad experience with BEOWULF CLUSTERS or do you not like BEOWULF CLUSTERS for some other reason? I personally have no problem with BEOWULF CLUSTERS, a lot of people here even like BEOWULF CLUSTERS. BEOWULF CLUSTERS have been known to be useful even.
I conclusion, do you really think a good way to have BEOWULF CLUSTERS mentioned less frequently is to talk about BEOWULF CLUSTERS? I doubt it.
A story relating to religion and then a story with the word "antimatter" in it right after? Do you realize how many insane rantings by people who consider themselves to be experts in such matters (no pun intended) will be the result of this?
I mean, come on - why not post Linux vx. MacOS X and Emacs vs. vi stories while you are at it.
And who do we have to thank for the fact that grown people (more or less, I'm guessing) can be reduced to giggles by the sight of nothing more than a penis? That's right, the Catholic Church.
Comparing apples to oranges is not only unavoidable, it's the only way to describe apples to someone who has only had oranges. I'm a programmer by trade, and people like you give us all a bad name.
Hey, woah there. First of all, we don't have a bad name;) Secondly, if I rember correctly (I might not), this started off being about Apache config, something only admins (ie geeks) interact with; our precious users have nothing to do with this.
And I stand by my claim that Meatspace analogies are always poor, they may well be the only way to describe something to a layman, but that only makes the problem much greater. Just look at all the "The Internet is like a library", "No! It's like a house, but you don't lock the door!", "No, it's like the prison system where the inmates are on the outside" of security and copyright debates. These analogies are only about 3/4 applicable (at best), and the remaning quarter always skews the understanding of the person this is being explained to. But this, of course, is wholly besides the point.
Do you mean more intuitive? Um, no I didn't. I guess I'll disregard the part that shows why it's stupid to claim that it is more intuitive... By "simple" I always mean just that - simple. Not "easier to use", not "more intuitive" and not "better". CLI's accept text as input and execute commands based on that text - what could be simpler?;)
Uh, hi. What's the reason things fall down? What was the reason you got out of bed this morning? All things indeed do happen for a reason, God or no.
Here, by "reason" you simply mean a cause. "Everything happens/exists for a reason" is an very loaded term, implying that some sort of supernatural "thought" went into the arrangement of the world around us. It's a fairly tangible difference, even if I am describin it poorly.
The reason life has a GUI is that we have senses that we use to interact with our environment.
I would say that we have senses (well, only vision applies, really) to interact with our envinronment because it has a GUI. Or that what can be described as "life's GUI" is our interaction with it, itself. Has this Meatspace analogy been very useful? I'm beginning to doubt that.
Perl isn't any harder than any other language to code with in a team as long as [...] a common set of programming rules are set up for the team and commenting is done at least to some extent. It works, I've done it.
Well yeah, but it's the "as long as" part that's more difficult. No one said it was impossible, just more difficult, mostly because there is such variety in perl coding styles. Like I said, not everyone is as good at doing those things in a team environment as we might like them (or ourselves) to be. That doesn't mean that they are necessarily bad programmers and should be shot, but that perhaps Perl isn't the best language to learn these things on.
As far as Perl vs. PHP my personal (un-PC) stance is that Perl wins hands down for pretty much everything, so I guess that part of your post wasn't related to mine.
Sure, having source is definitely a good thing but it's certainly not a hard and fast requirement most rational people would put on use of software.
I think you are missing the point here - the idea is that being free is good for the software istself, not necessarily for people using it (well, apart from using better quality software).
Costless propriatary software just saves you 50 bucks, I don't see that as a great advantage.
I suppose I've always valued liberty over equality, I guess. What does this have to do with anything?
unless you have ext3 with full data+metadata journalling
And if you don't, on any sort of production machine, you should be strangled with that same power cord you just pulled. (though ext3 isn't exactly the only journaling fs out there
To me it's like they're making coffee from the same set of coffee beans, and then add
their own special flavor to it, like milk, sugar etc.
I am fairly sure there is more than one company making coffee out of the same coffee beans. What are you suggesting? That there be one GNU/Linux - the one you like? While we are at it, let's make one car, one type of house and get rid of that ridiculous amount of choice people have in buying clothes - poor consumers shouldn't have to decide what they want, after all.
Yeah, you should check out Unreal Tournament 2003 and Quake III, I hear they are pretty good too.
GIMP? We all know that emacs will do it better.
Actually, I believe the point is that Linux will have excellent thread support. In other words when 2.6/3.0 is stable enough for production use (2008? :) )
If only they listened...
Yes, but most of the deliciously interesting features of Postgres (and other systems) is the proprietary stuff... mmmm, regular expressions...
Heh, Windows is called Windows, as in "Windowing System" - not much better than "Operating System" if you ask me.
It in fact is Postgres-Q-L and My-S-Q-L, but you use "sequel" to query both of those. I haven't seen anyone in a long time pronounce the language name S-Q-L, the names of the two products you mentioned are dictated by their respective developers, so it's a different matter. (incidentally, I'm as far from a Microsofty as it gets)
My favourite kind of sphere ;)
Congratulations on leaving The Cluster. Perhaps in the dark Universe, you will be light.
Avoiding talking about philosophy shows you know more about it, not less.
I don't get it, why isn't it easy to obtain computers? You just buy them - it's not like they are rare.
I conclusion, do you really think a good way to have BEOWULF CLUSTERS mentioned less frequently is to talk about BEOWULF CLUSTERS? I doubt it.
Cheers,
BEOWULF CLUSTERS
I mean, come on - why not post Linux vx. MacOS X and Emacs vs. vi stories while you are at it.
And who do we have to thank for the fact that grown people (more or less, I'm guessing) can be reduced to giggles by the sight of nothing more than a penis? That's right, the Catholic Church.
:)
Isn't that what realigion, well, is?
Why would you? No, really.
Not seeing that many similarities. At least not any that aren't in literally hundreds of other god/hero myths from over the world.
Hey, woah there. First of all, we don't have a bad name ;) Secondly, if I rember correctly (I might not), this started off being about Apache config, something only admins (ie geeks) interact with; our precious users have nothing to do with this.
And I stand by my claim that Meatspace analogies are always poor, they may well be the only way to describe something to a layman, but that only makes the problem much greater. Just look at all the "The Internet is like a library", "No! It's like a house, but you don't lock the door!", "No, it's like the prison system where the inmates are on the outside" of security and copyright debates. These analogies are only about 3/4 applicable (at best), and the remaning quarter always skews the understanding of the person this is being explained to. But this, of course, is wholly besides the point.
Do you mean more intuitive? Um, no I didn't. I guess I'll disregard the part that shows why it's stupid to claim that it is more intuitive... By "simple" I always mean just that - simple. Not "easier to use", not "more intuitive" and not "better". CLI's accept text as input and execute commands based on that text - what could be simpler? ;)
Uh, hi. What's the reason things fall down? What was the reason you got out of bed this morning? All things indeed do happen for a reason, God or no.
Here, by "reason" you simply mean a cause. "Everything happens/exists for a reason" is an very loaded term, implying that some sort of supernatural "thought" went into the arrangement of the world around us. It's a fairly tangible difference, even if I am describin it poorly.
The reason life has a GUI is that we have senses that we use to interact with our environment.
I would say that we have senses (well, only vision applies, really) to interact with our envinronment because it has a GUI. Or that what can be described as "life's GUI" is our interaction with it, itself. Has this Meatspace analogy been very useful? I'm beginning to doubt that.
Well yeah, but it's the "as long as" part that's more difficult. No one said it was impossible, just more difficult, mostly because there is such variety in perl coding styles. Like I said, not everyone is as good at doing those things in a team environment as we might like them (or ourselves) to be. That doesn't mean that they are necessarily bad programmers and should be shot, but that perhaps Perl isn't the best language to learn these things on.
As far as Perl vs. PHP my personal (un-PC) stance is that Perl wins hands down for pretty much everything, so I guess that part of your post wasn't related to mine.
I actually found this rather heartening - the author just might be an actual developer :)
I think you are missing the point here - the idea is that being free is good for the software istself, not necessarily for people using it (well, apart from using better quality software).
Costless propriatary software just saves you 50 bucks, I don't see that as a great advantage.
I suppose I've always valued liberty over equality, I guess. What does this have to do with anything?
And if you don't, on any sort of production machine, you should be strangled with that same power cord you just pulled. (though ext3 isn't exactly the only journaling fs out there
I'll stick with NT myself. And let me tell you, corporations will do the same. Why? NT's proven. Linux isn't.
Pesky admins! Business would so much easier without them!
I am fairly sure there is more than one company making coffee out of the same coffee beans. What are you suggesting? That there be one GNU/Linux - the one you like? While we are at it, let's make one car, one type of house and get rid of that ridiculous amount of choice people have in buying clothes - poor consumers shouldn't have to decide what they want, after all.