We value certain things, and think certain ways, and have never set up illusion otherwise.
True, but you dont think that trying to see things in a different way, even only temporarily, might be benificial?
I may be a naive but I still think that I have to play devils advocate sometimes to understand and be able to support any view I take.
It really is kinda amazing for me to look back at my train of thought when I was involved in a different community and see my priorities and how they have changed based on my surroundings.
I never want to fall for that level of groupthink (as another post put it) again. Even if I think one way I want to know why the opposition thinks their way instead of listening to everyones FUD.
but then again when I look at myself I am just as hypocritical as everyone else...:/
Or maybe the Aussies and the NZers killed/displaced the reasonably dark skinned people who were properly adapted for living there, replacing them with light-skinned northern europeans...
yeah:(
one of the more appalling parts of human history...
Perhaps you should be comparing Arizona with Australia.
Yeah you are right. I just never have lived in Arizona to make a decent comparison...And I know there are loopholes big enough to fit Rush Limbaugh through in my arguement.
I was just stating what I know from experience, generally slashdotters like you are smart enough to see the faults and take it for what its worth:)
(yeah I know, for some it may not be worth anything)
But also Sydney, Aust. has a decent amount of moisture in the air. After all, it has the most amazing waterways through the city and is right next to the ocean. (take that for what its worth also, yeah I know water on land does not equal atmosphere moisture levels)
Where is the evidence of the increase of human skin cancers due to "ozone hole" ?
Check cancer rates between Pennsylvania, USA and Sydney, Australia. I know this is far from a bulletproof arguement, for maybe Aussies are naturally more prone to skin cancer, or spend more time outdoors (which they do), or they use a sunblock which mutates them into sun cancer prone mutant freaks. But the (abeit weak) arguement some people say is that in the land down under there is mommothian awareness of skin cancer, everyone uses sun block, hats and that disgusting blue crap you put on your nose, there are advertisements all the time for sun awareness (remember that egg me no fry ad? Yes!), and here in the good old US of A we suffice with those annoying no-life weather channel dorks to tell us to put on a hat. I have lived in both countries for a decent (over 4 years) amount of time and the amount of people here in the US who care about skin cancer is miniscule compared to Aust. Yet (and the reason for that) rates are still higher down there. We are both about on the +/-40 degree latitude mark. This evidence is circumstantial at best but I'm sure someone else can post up a more scientific explanation for it (please?)
We value certain things, and think certain ways, and have never set up illusion otherwise. True, but you dont think that trying to see things in a different way, even only temporarily, might be benificial?
I may be a naive but I still think that I have to play devils advocate sometimes to understand and be able to support any view I take.
It really is kinda amazing for me to look back at my train of thought when I was involved in a different community and see my priorities and how they have changed based on my surroundings.
I never want to fall for that level of groupthink (as another post put it) again. Even if I think one way I want to know why the opposition thinks their way instead of listening to everyones FUD.
but then again when I look at myself I am just as hypocritical as everyone else...:/
Or maybe the Aussies and the NZers killed/displaced the reasonably dark skinned people who were properly adapted for living there, replacing them with light-skinned northern europeans...
:(
yeah
one of the more appalling parts of human history...
Perhaps you should be comparing Arizona with Australia.
:)
Yeah you are right. I just never have lived in Arizona to make a decent comparison...And I know there are loopholes big enough to fit Rush Limbaugh through in my arguement.
I was just stating what I know from experience, generally slashdotters like you are smart enough to see the faults and take it for what its worth
(yeah I know, for some it may not be worth anything)
But also Sydney, Aust. has a decent amount of moisture in the air. After all, it has the most amazing waterways through the city and is right next to the ocean. (take that for what its worth also, yeah I know water on land does not equal atmosphere moisture levels)
But, point taken.
Where is the evidence of the increase of human skin cancers due to "ozone hole" ?
Check cancer rates between Pennsylvania, USA and Sydney, Australia. I know this is far from a bulletproof arguement, for maybe Aussies are naturally more prone to skin cancer, or spend more time outdoors (which they do), or they use a sunblock which mutates them into sun cancer prone mutant freaks. But the (abeit weak) arguement some people say is that in the land down under there is mommothian awareness of skin cancer, everyone uses sun block, hats and that disgusting blue crap you put on your nose, there are advertisements all the time for sun awareness (remember that egg me no fry ad? Yes!), and here in the good old US of A we suffice with those annoying no-life weather channel dorks to tell us to put on a hat. I have lived in both countries for a decent (over 4 years) amount of time and the amount of people here in the US who care about skin cancer is miniscule compared to Aust. Yet (and the reason for that) rates are still higher down there. We are both about on the +/-40 degree latitude mark. This evidence is circumstantial at best but I'm sure someone else can post up a more scientific explanation for it (please?)
Just what I think, thats all