And all of this was because women during World War II held this country together by taking on many jobs that were traditionally male dominated while the men fought and died overseas. Not to sound overly sentimental or patriotic but both my grandmothers worked as well as ran a household and I have endless respect for them.
Who gave this guy a Troll? Must have been the one woman moderator on slashdot. At the risk of Karma I second the notion of being 82 and having a young wife. If Tony Randall can have kids at 84 with his 28 yr old wife then why can't I?
So that I don't get modded off-topic. I agree with Bruce Sunstein that his escape sequence, while it may be essential to how hyperlinks work, is not really a factor in this case. Elmer may have a patent on glue but that doesn't mean that they can stop somebody from patenting something made with their glue.
I predict that the case will never make it to court. There will be a back handed settlement and it will all be forgotten. No future cases, no licensing.
And who approves the appointments? The Senate. I also would like to point out that the President chose people far more intelligent than he for a reason.
What an awful comparison. You are saying that the politician is just a victim in this? That he was just like the woman wearing a tight sweater? And that Microsoft is like the rapist because they legally gave the politician money? Whoa! I'm sorry. You can hate Microsoft all you want but this analogy is just plain silly.
I would also add that the book purchases are collected only under a subpoena. If the government was collecting information about your purchasing habits without a subpoena than that would definitely be a privacy issue.
The President would never even get that far. If he said anything absurd that his Cabinet didn't wholly agree with the order would never go out. The decisions to bomb and invade Afghanistan and probably eventually Iraq don't come from Bush alone. These are things that Powell, Rumsfeld, et al. would decide upon. Sure he has input but he can't just decide to bomb some country without their agreement.
And if he did somehow do something like that, he would get strung out by the media. Even with Congress split 50/50 he would still be impeached in a heartbeat. It's like saying that I can go on a killing spree right now but I surely am going to pay for it.
Last I heard the Queen of England could not spontaneously send dozens of bombers half-way around the world to unleash millions of pounds of ordinance on a soverign nation.
And the president can? AHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's funny. I can just see George Bush saying - I don't like Cuba anymore, let's bomb them. Read my other posts referring to the President's cabinet, congressional oversight, etc. Maybe you should graduate from your high school and spend some time in the real world before making your AC Troll post.
1. The president carries veto power over any bill produced by Congress. They need a 2/3 vote to override. How often have you seen that happen?
And let's see - if the bill is "Democrat" biased then it is vetoed. Since congress is split 50/50 it will never reach the 2/3's majority. The President doesn't veto unless his party says to veto.
2. The judicial branch can declare a law unconstitutional only *after* someone has been found guilty and appealed through the appropriate lower courts. This isn't something that happens overnight, but it does happen. See @all_important_cases_in_history.
Wasn't that my point? Didn't I say that the Justice system is so bogged down that this very process that you stated so clearly takes so long that the politicans who passed the law are often long gone?
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Someone who is quoting what he was taught in a government class instead of looking at the reality of how government works is telling me to wake up?
Do you think that that wishlist was truly GW's? I have nothing against him and I think he has been a good President but he has some very intelligent people that surround him. I think very highly of Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, and Condoleezza Rice. I think that GW, like most recent Presidents, relies very heavily on his staff to tell him what to say and think.
As for sneaking things past Congress, I think you will find that Congress knew a lot more about those adventures than they ever let on. It is a lot easier to use the President or his staff as a scapegoat when things go wrong. Think about what happens when things do go wrong? Everybody parades in front of a Congressional commitee (as Enron is doing now) and the congressman act all high and mighty. They berated Kenneth Lay yesterday and then went home to their mistresses who they took out to dinner on lobbyists money.
Am I missing something or was that more like 12 degree (not counting Gates owning Microsoft).
Considering that Stanley Milgram's "Small World Problem" found the degrees of separation between two random people in the US to be between 2 and 10, and most commonly 5, I don't think that this is all that significant.
I know it was a joke but I felt like pontificating.
Why is this Microsoft's fault? Sounds like Condon is a scumbag who was easily bought. He should be the one strung up. I would have pocketed the money and said thank you. Two days later I would have pursued the case with more ferver than before.
I will ignore your childish comment about not being able to make political contributions because they make software.
Do you know anything about Enron you AC Troll? Do you think it was their political contributions that toppled Enron and not significant "accounting irregularities"? Go over to CNN and read about the Enron case and when your mommy has finished changing your diaper come on back.
I think that it is not the Federal government in general but the Legislative branch specifically that has gotten sickingly over powerful. They have totally shifted all power away from the Judicial and the Executive branches.
The Justice system is so bogged down that Congress can pass laws that they know will not be repealed by the Justice Department for years (when they can claim it was their predecessors who passed it in the first place). The President has become more of a figurehead than the Queen of England.
What is even worse is that there is so much childish, partisanship in Congress that nothing ever gets done except when they have a common goal which is usually to benefit the corporate giants that line their pockets.
It's not that few other companies can, it is that few other companies need to. How about somebody looks at what the tobacco industry spends on lobbying efforts? How about the RIAA and MPAA?
Microsoft is NOT doing anything illegal when it spends money on political contributions. It is the politicians that are doing something illegal if they let that money sway their votes.
I know you will never read this since you posted AC but the point is that I pay for the same for my cable/DSL when I am using it as I do when I am not using it. Either way I will have, in my case, DSL on and connected to the internet. So if I wanted to I could let somebody share that connection without any additional cost to myself.
I'm so glad you picked music because this has been my obsession since 12th grade when I wrote a calculus paper on music.
If you want books on Music and Science start with "The Music of the Spheres" by Jamie James (not the novel by Elizabeth Redfern). Quote from Publisher: "From Pythogoras to Newton, Bach to Beethoven, and on into the twentieth century of Einstein, Schoenberg, Stravinsky, Cage, and Glass, it is a spellbinding examination of the interwoven fates of science and music throughout history."
I wish I were home right now because I know I have dozens of other books on the subject but this one stands out.
I also remember early on in music how sound is made. In my case I played saxophone and the sound came from the vibration of the reed. I learned later on about the frequency of sound waves and why certain tones sound "better" (really more consonant to Western ears) together than others. I learned about the mathematcal divison of beats.
Finally, I have heard musicians talk about it. My early band teacher used to pound into our head why it is important for us to be all in tune with each other. Not just because it sounds better but because it projects better. Two sound waves in sync are going to sound a lot brighter than two sound waves slightly out of sync (that was very non-scientific but the point is there).
If this stuff interest you I definitely recomend reading the book and when I get home I can post the others. Music, Science and Religion are all so intimidately interwoven that it is almost impossible to talk about the history of one without bumping into one of the others.
So you're limiting this architecture to highly urban areas of highly developed countries.
While they may be the case today, there is nothing to say that this won't change in the new few years. I also don't believe that DSL is available in only highly urban areas. Take a look at DSLreports.com and you can see where DSL is available.
As for the electricity, I run two servers at home - one dual processor and both with multiple hard drives and fans. My electric increased approximiately $20/month when I started running them full time.
I also have not had (knock on wood) a significant hardware failure on these machines in the several years I have been running them. The last time I remember a hard drive failure was back in my mac days on a 7600. I think most hard drives also have a 3 year, no questions asked warranty.
I think you missed the point. We are talking about how art and technology are intertwined. The fact that people don't often see that is an idea of how greatly merged they are. You may not talk about science specifically in a music class but you surely talk about tones, intervals, chords, etc which are all firmly based in math and physics. You may not talk about biology in an art class but you surely talk about musculature and anatomy.
I know. I am using examples again but how else can I make my point?
a) The network connection and the machine are there whether the other companies use it or not. We are assuming she has unlimited, always on connection (like DSL or Cable) and not a time based connection (dialup or satellite). And her machine doesn't cost her anything except electricity and the wear on her hardware (constant disk access, etc.).
b) According to the article she would be making money off of it and she would benefit from using shared computing also.
Have you read none of the other posts here? Can you not see that technology has always influenced art and that art has always influenced technology? You can not have one without the other. Artist rely on technology to create their art (whether it is paint, photography, music, literature) and technology relies on the creativity of artists to inspire new ideas (think Rembrandt, Da Vince, Jules Verne, Gene Roddenberry, William Gibson).
Art, technology and science have always gone hand in hand. Music and math - Pythagoras mixed music, math and astronomy. Bach mixed music and math.
Art and Anatomy - Rembrandt painted his "Anatomical Lecture" showing anatomical dissection. Artist Antonio Pollaiuolo performed dissections to learn more about the human form.
Photography is perhaps the best example of art and technology joining together.
I could probably come up with many more examples throughout all of history of when technology influenced art and vice versa but I think my point is made.
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And all of this was because women during World War II held this country together by taking on many jobs that were traditionally male dominated while the men fought and died overseas. Not to sound overly sentimental or patriotic but both my grandmothers worked as well as ran a household and I have endless respect for them.
Who gave this guy a Troll? Must have been the one woman moderator on slashdot. At the risk of Karma I second the notion of being 82 and having a young wife. If Tony Randall can have kids at 84 with his 28 yr old wife then why can't I?
So that I don't get modded off-topic. I agree with Bruce Sunstein that his escape sequence, while it may be essential to how hyperlinks work, is not really a factor in this case. Elmer may have a patent on glue but that doesn't mean that they can stop somebody from patenting something made with their glue.
I predict that the case will never make it to court. There will be a back handed settlement and it will all be forgotten. No future cases, no licensing.
And who approves the appointments? The Senate. I also would like to point out that the President chose people far more intelligent than he for a reason.
What an awful comparison. You are saying that the politician is just a victim in this? That he was just like the woman wearing a tight sweater? And that Microsoft is like the rapist because they legally gave the politician money? Whoa! I'm sorry. You can hate Microsoft all you want but this analogy is just plain silly.
And did Amazon comply? What is the rest of the story? I can't find anything on Google.
I would also add that the book purchases are collected only under a subpoena. If the government was collecting information about your purchasing habits without a subpoena than that would definitely be a privacy issue.
You are absolutely correct. I should have said Supreme Court or just stuck with the Justice system. My point, of course, still remains valid.
The President would never even get that far. If he said anything absurd that his Cabinet didn't wholly agree with the order would never go out. The decisions to bomb and invade Afghanistan and probably eventually Iraq don't come from Bush alone. These are things that Powell, Rumsfeld, et al. would decide upon. Sure he has input but he can't just decide to bomb some country without their agreement.
And if he did somehow do something like that, he would get strung out by the media. Even with Congress split 50/50 he would still be impeached in a heartbeat. It's like saying that I can go on a killing spree right now but I surely am going to pay for it.
Last I heard the Queen of England could not spontaneously send dozens of bombers half-way around the world to unleash millions of pounds of ordinance on a soverign nation.
And the president can? AHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's funny. I can just see George Bush saying - I don't like Cuba anymore, let's bomb them. Read my other posts referring to the President's cabinet, congressional oversight, etc. Maybe you should graduate from your high school and spend some time in the real world before making your AC Troll post.
Lobbying and political contributions are basically legal bribing. It is up to the politician to make ethical decisions after receiving a contribution.
1. The president carries veto power over any bill produced by Congress. They need a 2/3 vote to override. How often have you seen that happen?
And let's see - if the bill is "Democrat" biased then it is vetoed. Since congress is split 50/50 it will never reach the 2/3's majority. The President doesn't veto unless his party says to veto.
2. The judicial branch can declare a law unconstitutional only *after* someone has been found guilty and appealed through the appropriate lower courts. This isn't something that happens overnight, but it does happen. See @all_important_cases_in_history.
Wasn't that my point? Didn't I say that the Justice system is so bogged down that this very process that you stated so clearly takes so long that the politicans who passed the law are often long gone?
Wake Up
Someone who is quoting what he was taught in a government class instead of looking at the reality of how government works is telling me to wake up?
It may have been a little extreme but the point was made. Take a look at my response below for a little more insight to my thinking.
Do you think that that wishlist was truly GW's? I have nothing against him and I think he has been a good President but he has some very intelligent people that surround him. I think very highly of Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, and Condoleezza Rice. I think that GW, like most recent Presidents, relies very heavily on his staff to tell him what to say and think.
As for sneaking things past Congress, I think you will find that Congress knew a lot more about those adventures than they ever let on. It is a lot easier to use the President or his staff as a scapegoat when things go wrong. Think about what happens when things do go wrong? Everybody parades in front of a Congressional commitee (as Enron is doing now) and the congressman act all high and mighty. They berated Kenneth Lay yesterday and then went home to their mistresses who they took out to dinner on lobbyists money.
Am I missing something or was that more like 12 degree (not counting Gates owning Microsoft).
Considering that Stanley Milgram's "Small World Problem" found the degrees of separation between two random people in the US to be between 2 and 10, and most commonly 5, I don't think that this is all that significant.
I know it was a joke but I felt like pontificating.
Why is this Microsoft's fault? Sounds like Condon is a scumbag who was easily bought. He should be the one strung up. I would have pocketed the money and said thank you. Two days later I would have pursued the case with more ferver than before.
I will ignore your childish comment about not being able to make political contributions because they make software.
Do you know anything about Enron you AC Troll? Do you think it was their political contributions that toppled Enron and not significant "accounting irregularities"? Go over to CNN and read about the Enron case and when your mommy has finished changing your diaper come on back.
I think that it is not the Federal government in general but the Legislative branch specifically that has gotten sickingly over powerful. They have totally shifted all power away from the Judicial and the Executive branches.
The Justice system is so bogged down that Congress can pass laws that they know will not be repealed by the Justice Department for years (when they can claim it was their predecessors who passed it in the first place). The President has become more of a figurehead than the Queen of England.
What is even worse is that there is so much childish, partisanship in Congress that nothing ever gets done except when they have a common goal which is usually to benefit the corporate giants that line their pockets.
very few other companies do
It's not that few other companies can, it is that few other companies need to. How about somebody looks at what the tobacco industry spends on lobbying efforts? How about the RIAA and MPAA?
Microsoft is NOT doing anything illegal when it spends money on political contributions. It is the politicians that are doing something illegal if they let that money sway their votes.
I know you will never read this since you posted AC but the point is that I pay for the same for my cable/DSL when I am using it as I do when I am not using it. Either way I will have, in my case, DSL on and connected to the internet. So if I wanted to I could let somebody share that connection without any additional cost to myself.
I'm so glad you picked music because this has been my obsession since 12th grade when I wrote a calculus paper on music.
If you want books on Music and Science start with "The Music of the Spheres" by Jamie James (not the novel by Elizabeth Redfern). Quote from Publisher: "From Pythogoras to Newton, Bach to Beethoven, and on into the twentieth century of Einstein, Schoenberg, Stravinsky, Cage, and Glass, it is a spellbinding examination of the interwoven fates of science and music throughout history."
I wish I were home right now because I know I have dozens of other books on the subject but this one stands out.
I also remember early on in music how sound is made. In my case I played saxophone and the sound came from the vibration of the reed. I learned later on about the frequency of sound waves and why certain tones sound "better" (really more consonant to Western ears) together than others. I learned about the mathematcal divison of beats.
Finally, I have heard musicians talk about it. My early band teacher used to pound into our head why it is important for us to be all in tune with each other. Not just because it sounds better but because it projects better. Two sound waves in sync are going to sound a lot brighter than two sound waves slightly out of sync (that was very non-scientific but the point is there).
If this stuff interest you I definitely recomend reading the book and when I get home I can post the others. Music, Science and Religion are all so intimidately interwoven that it is almost impossible to talk about the history of one without bumping into one of the others.
So you're limiting this architecture to highly urban areas of highly developed countries.
While they may be the case today, there is nothing to say that this won't change in the new few years. I also don't believe that DSL is available in only highly urban areas. Take a look at DSLreports.com and you can see where DSL is available.
As for the electricity, I run two servers at home - one dual processor and both with multiple hard drives and fans. My electric increased approximiately $20/month when I started running them full time.
I also have not had (knock on wood) a significant hardware failure on these machines in the several years I have been running them. The last time I remember a hard drive failure was back in my mac days on a 7600. I think most hard drives also have a 3 year, no questions asked warranty.
I think you missed the point. We are talking about how art and technology are intertwined. The fact that people don't often see that is an idea of how greatly merged they are. You may not talk about science specifically in a music class but you surely talk about tones, intervals, chords, etc which are all firmly based in math and physics. You may not talk about biology in an art class but you surely talk about musculature and anatomy.
I know. I am using examples again but how else can I make my point?
a) The network connection and the machine are there whether the other companies use it or not. We are assuming she has unlimited, always on connection (like DSL or Cable) and not a time based connection (dialup or satellite). And her machine doesn't cost her anything except electricity and the wear on her hardware (constant disk access, etc.).
b) According to the article she would be making money off of it and she would benefit from using shared computing also.
Have you read none of the other posts here? Can you not see that technology has always influenced art and that art has always influenced technology? You can not have one without the other. Artist rely on technology to create their art (whether it is paint, photography, music, literature) and technology relies on the creativity of artists to inspire new ideas (think Rembrandt, Da Vince, Jules Verne, Gene Roddenberry, William Gibson).
Art, technology and science have always gone hand in hand. Music and math - Pythagoras mixed music, math and astronomy. Bach mixed music and math.
Art and Anatomy - Rembrandt painted his "Anatomical Lecture" showing anatomical dissection. Artist Antonio Pollaiuolo performed dissections to learn more about the human form.
Photography is perhaps the best example of art and technology joining together.
I could probably come up with many more examples throughout all of history of when technology influenced art and vice versa but I think my point is made.